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Atama BJJ >> Matt Thornton on Drilling and Coaching
| 5/29/08 4:11 PM | |
drazzi
Edited: 05/29/08 4:18 PM Member Since: 3/10/05 Posts: 12 |
Matt recently posted some thoughts on coaching and drilling . As a coach myself, I find his model not only very effective, but also very fun for the people in my classes. I have read it twice already and pick up a few nuggets every time.
I hope you find it useful as I did. http://aliveness101.blogspot.com/2008/05/notes-on-drilling.html
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| 5/29/08 4:14 PM | |
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groundfighter2000
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 17327 |
ttt
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| 5/29/08 9:47 PM | |
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cdog1955
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 835 |
Matt hit a Grand Slam with that article!
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| 5/29/08 11:51 PM | |
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Prik Khee Noo
Member Since: 7/9/01 Posts: 1039 |
Best piece on BJJ coaching I have ever seen.
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| 5/30/08 4:02 AM | |
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FistEater
Member Since: 7/14/03 Posts: 146 |
I really like Matt's concepts. I wish I could have gotten this kind of instruction when I started. And I still do.
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| 5/30/08 8:22 AM | |
Bull_in_chinashop
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 31486 |
http://aliveness101.blogspot.com/2008/05/notes-on-drilling.html
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| 5/30/08 9:19 AM | |
Matt Freedman
Member Since: 10/3/04 Posts: 1955 |
Such an awesome article. My question now is how to introduce the "I" method, progressive resistance, and flow rolling to students who are completely unfamiliar with these ideas -- their only BJJ coaching experience is the ol' "3 techniques and a roll" style. Where do you even *start*? How do you explain, simply and succinctly, these concepts?
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| 5/30/08 9:46 AM | |
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drazzi
Edited: 05/30/08 9:49 AM Member Since: 3/10/05 Posts: 13 |
Matt Friedman - In terms of contrast the big difference is isolation. The introduction of movements is for the most part the same, and so is the rolling portion of class. The real difference, and the area most neglected, is isolation. So all one needs to do is to introduce this new element after showing a basic posture or technique. How? Simply explain the goals of the drill and reinforce the concept of progressive resistance. Then watch. You may have to manually reset some people as they will devolve into rolling at first. That is ok and will self correct in days or weeks with your guidance. The challenge for most people in bjj is that their instructor does not know the value of the I method, so broaching the subject is sensitive to say the least. You typically get into ego issues like "You don't like how I teach?" "You think this way is better than mine, I am a black belt!" etc. For students, if they are lucky enough to have a teacher who understands the value of isolation drilling (and there are a lot out there), it is quite easy. If your instructor doesn't drill, then that's ok too. Get a friend and meet them 1x a week, or stay after class and drill. I have never seen an instructor who would not look fondly on that type of extra mat time, even if they don't use it in their classes. Best of luck, Paul
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| 5/30/08 10:05 AM | |
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Matt Freedman
Member Since: 10/3/04 Posts: 1957 |
thanks paul.
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| 5/30/08 2:42 PM | |
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Mike Sweeney
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 2821 |
ttt
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| 5/30/08 4:49 PM | |
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supersaiyan
Member Since: 3/20/02 Posts: 15523 |
ttt
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| 5/31/08 4:13 AM | |
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Indrek R.
Member Since: 7/4/02 Posts: 1800 |
Anyone who isn't training like that is missing out ...
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| 5/31/08 5:58 PM | |
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The78Circus
Member Since: 12/17/07 Posts: 220 |
Everybody needs to read this article, or bookmark it and revisit it again.
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| 6/1/08 1:18 PM | |
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New2MMA
Member Since: 4/13/03 Posts: 2054 |
Great Article
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| 6/1/08 2:07 PM | |
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billcosbiguez
Edited: 06/01/08 2:07 PM Member Since: 4/16/08 Posts: 40 |
matt's approach is rare, not in his i method, but rather in how he applies, "there is nothing new under the sun," to others but more importantly to himself.
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| 6/2/08 5:40 PM | |
Matt Thornton
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3688 |
I am glad everyone enjoyed the article. Thanks much. www.straightblastgym.com
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| 6/2/08 8:29 PM | |
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John Frankl
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 748 |
1. Awesome article. I know this stuff, but I get lazy when I teach. This was a good reminder. 2. IPU, I am not speaking for Matt, but I see the same thing in my own gym. One possibility, right off the top of my head, is that students can and do pick up individual techniques from videos, dvds, youtube, friends at other gyms, etc. But what will make these techniques succeed or fail is the principles/concepts. Best, John
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| 6/2/08 9:42 PM | |
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Kneeblock
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 11401 |
Awesome article, but what's with all the wacky photos?
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| 6/2/08 10:12 PM | |
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Matt Thornton
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3690 |
You don't like the photos? : ) John's right, I don't think a lack of technique is really the problem in the YOUTUBE era. What tends to be missing more often is an in depth understanding of why the fundamentals work the way they do. That stated, I do teach technique in my classes. It's not about no technique and only principles versus all technique and no principles. It is a question of emphasis, priority and context. Regarding guard passing, I usually start with the objectives. What I call the 5 point passing game. Which is just the breakdown of the mechanics behind technical guard passes. All passes will incorporate those 5 points (with the exception of some 'fly over' passes, like a jump or cartwheel). I start with that because I want the students to understand how passing works, what a technical pass is, and what their objectives are at any given point. In the process of teaching those principles (5 points) I will use some basic guard passes. For example a double under pass, knee over pass, or bullfighter pass, etc. The next stage would be a drill like the guard surfing drill that was mentioned in the article. And it has been my experience that once a student reaches a level where they understand the principles and concepts behind a technical pass, the "why" of how it works, they can through the guard surfing drill create an almost limtless amount of variations on guard passes. In otherwords, the thing they need me least for at that point is more specific technique.
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| 6/2/08 11:01 PM | |
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nowaydo
Member Since: 2/28/06 Posts: 113 |
Great article!
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| 6/3/08 1:51 AM | |
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ams
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 903 |
Fantastic article
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| 6/3/08 11:32 AM | |
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paw
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 16818 |
ttt
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| 6/3/08 2:47 PM | |
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Matt Thornton
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3693 |
No worries.
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| 6/3/08 3:30 PM | |
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paw
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 16820 |
Matt, Would you mind listing your 5 points for passing?
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| 6/3/08 3:40 PM | |
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Matt Thornton
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3695 |
Sure, 1- opening the guard (a whole curriculum in itself of course, this includes base & posture, etc) 2- Leg control 3- Hip control 4- Upper body attachment 5- Hips landing Out of context it may not make sense, but if you visualize a double under pass (as one example) you can see each point.
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