The worst referee stand up ever

Sorry to disagree, he was being grossly ineffective and basically wasting the fight in boredom. Good stand up.

On another note, the referee should have been much quicker to break the wasteful, useless and unending clinching in the Carano fight.

Everyone I was with couldn't believe it got stood up.

CroCop vs. Gonzaga had a terrible stand up too. At least that one worked out for the fighter who got the short end of the stand up stick.

totalwreckage - Jared Shaw was probably yelling STAND THEM UP STAND THEM UP

 HE WAS!!!! That little piece of shit was barking orders to the ref the whole event..fucking sad!

I didn't know that promoters could corner fighters on their own event card...Sad...

And I can't believe Im posting on a message board at 2am on a Saturday night

thanks for the quick answer joe and keep up the great work!

Joe is absolutely 100% fucking correct. Many who disagree smack of the TUF newbee who doesn't remember the rules any other way

Joe Rogan - PAGrappler412 - In your opinion Joe under what conditions/circumstances would YOU want a standup or restart...or are you completely against them?ttt for answerI honestly think we shouldn't have them at all.  You get a stand up if you can survive the round and make it to the next.  If a guy can force you to stand up with him by avoiding the take downs, a guy should be able to force you to fight on the ground by holding you down.  It's mixed martial arts, and that's a part of the game.  I think these stand ups are incredibly unfair for grapplers.  Like I'm quoted earlier in this thread, 5 minutes isn't that long a time.If a guy can hold you down and give you nuggies for 5 minutes, that's life.If a fighter is boring they won't be popular, and that lack of popularity will affect the way they're paid.I think that's what should motivate fighters to be active, not a referee stand up. idk about that one joe. force them to fight on the ground? im all for that. but does lying on someone for 3 rounds WITHOUT advancing position make you a winner?

Joe Rogan - 

PAGrappler412 - In your opinion Joe under what conditions/circumstances would YOU want a standup or restart...or are you completely against them?

ttt for answer

I honestly think we shouldn't have them at all.  You get a stand up if you can survive the round and make it to the next.  If a guy can force you to stand up with him by avoiding the take downs, a guy should be able to force you to fight on the ground by holding you down.  It's mixed martial arts, and that's a part of the game.  I think these stand ups are incredibly unfair for grapplers.  Like I'm quoted earlier in this thread, 5 minutes isn't that long a time.
If a guy can hold you down and give you nuggies for 5 minutes, that's life.

If a fighter is boring they won't be popular, and that lack of popularity will affect the way they're paid.
I think that's what should motivate fighters to be active, not a referee stand up.
 

idk about that one joe. force them to fight on the ground? im all for that. but does lying on someone for 3 rounds WITHOUT advancing position make you a winner?


p.s. ignore previous post by me.

Forssberg - Sorry to disagree, he was being grossly ineffective and basically wasting the fight in boredom. Good stand up.

I too am bored by someone simultaneously kneeing his opponent while working a kimura. What a waste. He was ONLY using four limbs to attack!

Once I saw that I knew it wouldn't be long before we see standups from the mount.

Rogan and his bjj bias.

Agreed. I shouted at the screen.

worst stand up in the history nelson was fucking robbed.

Tell it like it is Rogan!!!!!!!

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There was no reason for that stand up!

Arlostki looked like shite on the ground. Jiu Jitsu my ass. Arlostki didn't know what the fuck to do!!!!

Nelson had side mount with a kimura and the ref was yelling "work on your position!" WTF?

Arlovskis grappling hasnt seemed to improve one bit ever since I first saw him.He fights like he doesnt even train ground.

We have every reason to think that Nelson may have finished him that position,and the standup was absolutely bullshit.

The ref kinda helped out Arlovski on the ground against Pe De Pano too if you remember.

Horrible stand up shocked the shit out of me...BUT....

Wasnt the LACK of stand ups really what sent the UFC into the dark ages and off of PPV?

I'm not saying it's right, but it's a business that needs an audience, and most of the audience aren't MMA savy like us.

Either way that standup was fucking bad tonight. Even more fuel for the fire for CBS noobs.

 and then bc got beat the fuck down

 true dattt

Joe Rogan -  Big Country had Arlovski in fucking side control working on a kimura and he got stood up.
My jaw dropped.
Shit like that is ruining the sport.

 Absolute truth, and awesome you publicly said so.

 Fights should never be stood up, fact. If to fighters aren't active standing up do you stop the fight then restart it on the ground?

Joe Rogan - 

I honestly think we shouldn't have them at all.  You get a stand up if you can survive the round and make it to the next.  If a guy can force you to stand up with him by avoiding the take downs, a guy should be able to force you to fight on the ground by holding you down.  It's mixed martial arts, and that's a part of the game.  I think these stand ups are incredibly unfair for grapplers.  Like I'm quoted earlier in this thread, 5 minutes isn't that long a time.
If a guy can hold you down and give you nuggies for 5 minutes, that's life.

If a fighter is boring they won't be popular, and that lack of popularity will affect the way they're paid.
I think that's what should motivate fighters to be active, not a referee stand up.
 

Totally agree.
 

totally agree and great to hear your view Joe

Joe Rogan -  Big Country had Arlovski in fucking side control working on a kimura and he got stood up.
My jaw dropped.
Shit like that is ruining the sport.

jorge ortiz is the same referee who, during the edson berto vs. yves edwards match, kept asking for action and imploring the fighters to improve position...all this while berto was rolling yves over into a guillotine attempt and yves escaped into an immediate and slick kimura attempt.

is he a boxing referee? how can he not know about these positions and be calling an mma match?