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Posted: 4/19/09 5:43 PM
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UFC 64 - 300,000
UFC 65 - 500,000
UFC 66 - 1,040,000 (MMA Record)
UFC 67 - 325,000
UFC 68 - 520,000
UFC 69 - 400,000
UFC 70 - SPIKE TV
UFC 71 - 675,000 (Dana had claimed 1 million)
UFC 72 - 200,000 - IRELAND TAPE DELAY
UFC 73 - 425,000
UFC 74 - 485,000
UFC 75 - SPIKE TV
UFC 76 - 475,000
UFC 77 - 325,000
UFC 78 - 400,000
UFC 79 - 650,000
UFC 80 - 225,000 - UK TAPE DELAY
UFC 81 - 600,000
UFC 82 - 325,000
UFC 83 - 525,000
UFC 84 - 450,000
UFC 85 - 225,000 - UK TAPE DELAY
UFC 86 - 550,000
UFC 87 - 500,000
UFC 88 - 510,000
UFC 89 - SPIKE TV
UFC 90 - 300,000
UFC 91 - 750,000
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UFC 64 - 300,000 'Anderson vs. Franklin'
UFC 67 - 325,000 'Anderson vs. Lutter'
UFC 77 - 325,000 'Anderson vs. Franklin'
UFC 82 - 325,000 'Anderson vs. Henderson'
UFC 90 - 300,000 'Anderson vs. Cote'
Anderson Silva can't sell ppvs worth shit..Ortiz, Randy, Lesnar, etc sell WAYYY higher numbers than the average 300k Anderson does.
This ppv will do better because of Liddell's name, but the numbers speak for themselves. Anderson Silva can't draw. So much for Dana's p4p best fighter. LMAO
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The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV, so I don't know why you'd think the fact that Silva doesn't draw has anything to do with whether or not he's p4p the best.
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OctopusFighter - The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV, so I don't know why you'd think the fact that Silva doesn't draw has anything to do with whether or not he's p4p the best.
pwned
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What a colossal backfire for CAF.
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OctopusFighter - The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV, so I don't know why you'd think the fact that Silva doesn't draw has anything to do with whether or not he's p4p the best.
Hmmmm...Source ? ? Because i don't have japanese PPV Pride numbers, but I think you will be the one that is pwned.
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This isn't about Fedor. It's about Dana White's p4p King.
If Fedor was in UFC, who knows what the numbers would be.
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CAFattack -
Hmmmm...Source ? ?
Source is Dave Meltzer, who had the Fedor-headlined Pride US ppv numbers at 40K buys, the Fedor-headlined Bodog PPV at 50K and the first Affliction PPV at 85K in his weekly newsletter.
Because i don't have japanese PPV Pride numbers, but I think you will be the one that is pwned.
There were no Japanese Pride PPVs because they aired on television.
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OctopusFighter - CAFattack -
Hmmmm...Source ? ?
Source is Dave Meltzer, who had the Fedor-headlined Pride US ppv numbers at 40K buys, the Fedor-headlined Bodog PPV at 50K and the first Affliction PPV at 85K in his weekly newsletter.
Because i don't have japanese PPV Pride numbers, but I think you will be the one that is pwned.
There were no Japanese Pride PPVs because they aired on television.
Then you don't don't know shit. US PPV numbers have Anderson at 300k. Fedor Japan TV Ratings is probably bigger.
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OctopusFighter - The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV, so I don't know why you'd think the fact that Silva doesn't draw has anything to do with whether or not he's p4p the best.
For real. There's absolutely NO correlation between skill and popularity. (serious)
(I felt it necessary to put "serious" because it's such a "no shit" statement that I didn't want you to think I was trying to be sarcastic or something!)
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I'm not saying that Fedor is better than Anderson or the ppv numbers.
This thread is about Anderson Silva can not sell a ppv like a WWE superstar.
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His buyrates are disappointing. The only PPV I bought last year was Hendo/Silva and I think that was the lowest outside of the UK ones.
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CAFattack - I'm not saying that Fedor is better than Anderson or the ppv numbers.
This thread is about Anderson Silva can not sell a ppv like a WWE superstar.
Cool, I agree with you there. It just sounded funny when you said, "So much for Dana's P4P fighter," as if to say he no longer could be labeled as that because he doesn't sell PPV.
But for real, I agree with you.
My theory? He doesn't speak English, which makes it hard for the crowd to identify with him.
To most people, unfortunately, he's just the strange, mysterious foreign guy who came into the UFC and murdered everyone's favorite fighters.
I hope it changes though, because he's a great fighter and a good ambassador to the sport.
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The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV
Apples and Oranges. If Fedor came to the UFC and knocked out Sylvia and Arlovski like he did, he'd be a bigger draw than Lesnar.
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anderson and fedor are both annoying fighters to watch.
the ppv numbers just reflect that.
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Jack Carter - The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV
Apples and Oranges. If Fedor came to the UFC and knocked out Sylvia and Arlovski like he did, he'd be a bigger draw than Lesnar.
He wouldn't be a bigger draw than Lesnar, but if he was in the UFC Fedor's drawing power would be many times greater than it is now.
It's even more interesting that UFN 14, with Silva vs. Irvin in the main event, did really good ratings. I don't know if it's that people are more interested in him moving up in weight, or they'll watch him, but they don't want to pay to watch him.
And the Silva/Cote Countdown on Spike was at that point the highest rated episode in the countdown series.
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When Joe "the genius" Silva puts Silva together vs. Leites what the fuck do you expect?
Next PPV to feature Anderson will have him main event with a guy named Charlie Steak from the midwest. Dana is expecting good numbers.
"This is your mma you piece of shit, now enjoy it" -Dana
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lol @ 300k ppv buys being bad
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He wouldn't be a bigger draw than Lesnar, but if he was in the UFC Fedor's drawing power would be many times greater than it is now.
I really hope you're wrong because Lesnar has done nothing in this sport so far. What can he say, he beat an older man & lost to Mir? None of his fights are really that exciting.
I hope that if the UFC fans saw Fedor knock out Sylvia an Arlovski in the UFC like he did, they would realize how amazing Fedor is.
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Wow, if those numbers are correct, that is ridiculous.
So, in that time span, aside from tape-delayed events, Anderson's five fights occurred on the five lowest-purchased PPVs?
The Fedor argument seems like a non-starter--it is pretty clear that no one outside the UFC can match the UFC's numbers, and pretty clear that any Fedor-headlined UFC would certainly do more than 85k buys.
I'm pretty interested what other fights appear on the next Anderson Silva card, to see if the UFC has any faith in his being a draw. (Unless he fights GSP, or some other opponent who will draw viewers.)
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Yeah, Anderson has always been a terrible draw. The only he'll ever have a big PPV is if
he fights GSP
or
he fights a big name LHW
And this was a problem for him BEFORE tonight. I have no problem with how he fights, but a TON of people are going to skip his next par-per-view and watch it online or whatever. GG Anderson.
just goes to show you talent =/= drawing power. Lesnar is easily the best draw in MMA despite not being #1 in his weight class.
Honestly, the #2 draw in MMA might be a guy who has never even fought before. Satoshi Ishii, when he finally fights, will INSTANTLY become one of the biggest draws in the sport because half of Japan will tune in every time he fights.
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Jack Carter - He wouldn't be a bigger draw than Lesnar, but if he was in the UFC Fedor's drawing power would be many times greater than it is now.
I really hope you're wrong because Lesnar has done nothing in this sport so far. What can he say, he beat an older man & lost to Mir? None of his fights are really that exciting.
Half the geniuses here thought Randy was the man that could beat Fedor so he wasn't considered a pushover for Lesnar.
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No shit.
The "co-main event" didn't give it away?
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OctopusFighter - The lowest-selling Silva PPV still drew higher than the highest-selling Fedor PPV, so I don't know why you'd think the fact that Silva doesn't draw has anything to do with whether or not he's p4p the best.
Apples and oranges. Can't compare any other mma promotion's numbers to UFC.
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The fact that he can't draw means that he gets paid less. This presents a couple of problems.
1. Boring fights cost him less because he isn't that marketable anyways
2. Easier to pay off by 3rd party. This ties to #1 as the benefits of being paid off can more easily outweigh the negatives of having a boring fight.
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