Art Vandelay's Pro Wrestling Ground Bayley not a draw to teenage girls


2/16/17 8:38 PM
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38% of teenage female fans turned off the main event on Monday.

Here is Meltzer talking about it on his show.

https://streamable.com/lu7f8
2/16/17 9:06 PM
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My 8 year old daughter LOVES BAYLEY.  

The first time she saw her, the inflatable tube men werent even out yet and she turned to me and said "shes my favourite"

2/16/17 9:07 PM
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I can see her being lame to teenagers though. 

2/16/17 9:37 PM
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I feel like she'd be a hit with pre teen girls but teen girls would like the more edgy "cool" girls like alexa bliss and Carmella... I honestly thought she'd be a female John Cena on the main roster but I don't think she's as over as I anticipated
2/16/17 10:16 PM
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My son loves her.  He's 4.  He also really likes Bobby Roode

2/16/17 10:19 PM
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Sasha is a better character for teens.

Bayley appeals to children, and that's fine, but having her in a main event, that should have been at Mania, that ends at 11pm on a school night is stupid.

That match should have been the main event of the first hour.
2/16/17 10:39 PM
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I would say she had an appeal to girl ups til about 13/14. Then she would be a turn off.

2/16/17 11:08 PM
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Teens love Nikki Bella.
2/16/17 11:59 PM
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Bailey is the female John cena I personally love her & think it be epic to get a hug from her 

2/17/17 12:51 AM
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I didn't know that teen girls was supposed to be her target audience. Pretty sure most her fans are grown men like Grizz and preteen girls ages 12 and under. My daughter is 12 and likes her

2/17/17 8:59 AM
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edward nigma -

Bailey is the female John cena I personally love her & think it be epic to get a hug from her 

Can confirm, it was epic
2/17/17 8:59 AM
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Faces of Fear -

I didn't know that teen girls was supposed to be her target audience. Pretty sure most her fans are grown men like Grizz and preteen girls ages 12 and under. My daughter is 12 and likes her

Bingo
Edited: 2/17/17 1:24 PM
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Yeah but the fact that they turned off in droves is pretty troubling. Never happened to anyone else on the women's roster. Don't think Vince isn't paying attention to it either.
2/17/17 2:03 PM
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I think it was bed time 

2/17/17 2:11 PM
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RUSRedDevil - 

I think it was bed time 


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/832453469038661632
2/17/17 3:48 PM
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Bayley is this generations Doink.

Acts like a little kid. Creeps me out.
Edited: 2/17/17 4:56 PM
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I can't get past bailey's butterface.  Only female wrestler that is good at wrestling and the mic is Charlotte. She is on another level in comparison to the rest of the female roster. Other women wrestlers are clueless on the mic or sound rehearsed / bad acting which ruins it

2/17/17 4:54 PM
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My daughter is also 12. When she first started watching NXT, she saw Bayley in a tag match. She commented "The black haired one is doing most of the work." When she saw Bayley against Nia Jaxx, my daughter said, "How nice of Nia to bump for Bayley 7 times." My daughter knew who was making that match watchable, and that is why she is a Bayley fan.

Problem is, not all kids are "smart marks" like mine. My son is a Cena fan, and made fun of Bayley for still being in NXT. My daughter remarked, "Yeah well at least Bayley knows more than 5 moves. Well 6, if you count this" (waves her hand in front of her face.)

But I could see how rebellious teenagers would prefer Charlotte or even Sasha over a "good girl" like Bayley.
2/18/17 9:10 AM
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To be fair she isnt aimed at teenage girls. Charlotte is probably a fave with the lads though. 

2/18/17 11:02 AM
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Philanderer - My daughter is also 12. When she first started watching NXT, she saw Bayley in a tag match. She commented "The black haired one is doing most of the work." When she saw Bayley against Nia Jaxx, my daughter said, "How nice of Nia to bump for Bayley 7 times." My daughter knew who was making that match watchable, and that is why she is a Bayley fan.

Problem is, not all kids are "smart marks" like mine. My son is a Cena fan, and made fun of Bayley for still being in NXT. My daughter remarked, "Yeah well at least Bayley knows more than 5 moves. Well 6, if you count this" (waves her hand in front of her face.)

But I could see how rebellious teenagers would prefer Charlotte or even Sasha over a "good girl" like Bayley.
Lol sounds like me when I was 12. Hated Cena with a passion.

Only ever ran into one other semi-smart pre-teen mark though.

I'm sure social media's made it much more commonplace
2/18/17 7:21 PM
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AnthonyWeiner - She's not a draw with straight men, either. Looks like she was born face-down in a frying pan.
That may be true but she has a nice shitlocker
2/18/17 8:21 PM
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Philanderer - My daughter is also 12. When she first started watching NXT, she saw Bayley in a tag match. She commented "The black haired one is doing most of the work." When she saw Bayley against Nia Jaxx, my daughter said, "How nice of Nia to bump for Bayley 7 times." My daughter knew who was making that match watchable, and that is why she is a Bayley fan.

Problem is, not all kids are "smart marks" like mine. My son is a Cena fan, and made fun of Bayley for still being in NXT. My daughter remarked, "Yeah well at least Bayley knows more than 5 moves. Well 6, if you count this" (waves her hand in front of her face.)

But I could see how rebellious teenagers would prefer Charlotte or even Sasha over a "good girl" like Bayley.
You should be a very proud dad..! You got the son you always wanted in the smart mark.. aka daughter(whose really son#1).. and then you have son#2, the Cena fan..


Give her a self high five..
2/18/17 11:37 PM
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NotForgetGayJesus - 
Philanderer - My daughter is also 12. When she first started watching NXT, she saw Bayley in a tag match. She commented "The black haired one is doing most of the work." When she saw Bayley against Nia Jaxx, my daughter said, "How nice of Nia to bump for Bayley 7 times." My daughter knew who was making that match watchable, and that is why she is a Bayley fan.

Problem is, not all kids are "smart marks" like mine. My son is a Cena fan, and made fun of Bayley for still being in NXT. My daughter remarked, "Yeah well at least Bayley knows more than 5 moves. Well 6, if you count this" (waves her hand in front of her face.)

But I could see how rebellious teenagers would prefer Charlotte or even Sasha over a "good girl" like Bayley.
Lol sounds like me when I was 12. Hated Cena with a passion.

Only ever ran into one other semi-smart pre-teen mark though.

I'm sure social media's made it much more commonplace

She is influenced by the backstage stuff she reads about online. Example: she started to dislike Nikki because of her relationship with Cena.

Once we were watching Smackdown and she decides to chant "John Cena sucks, John Cena sucks" during Nikki's entrance just to piss off her brother. He threatened to sneak into her room while she was sleeping and give her the 5 Knuckle Shuffle. I threatened them both with chokeslams if they didn't knock it off.
2/18/17 11:53 PM
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armbarheelhook - 
Philanderer - My daughter is also 12. When she first started watching NXT, she saw Bayley in a tag match. She commented "The black haired one is doing most of the work." When she saw Bayley against Nia Jaxx, my daughter said, "How nice of Nia to bump for Bayley 7 times." My daughter knew who was making that match watchable, and that is why she is a Bayley fan.

Problem is, not all kids are "smart marks" like mine. My son is a Cena fan, and made fun of Bayley for still being in NXT. My daughter remarked, "Yeah well at least Bayley knows more than 5 moves. Well 6, if you count this" (waves her hand in front of her face.)

But I could see how rebellious teenagers would prefer Charlotte or even Sasha over a "good girl" like Bayley.
You should be a very proud dad..! You got the son you always wanted in the smart mark.. aka daughter(whose really son#1).. and then you have son#2, the Cena fan..


Give her a self high five..

Thing is, as kids they both do have a tendency to mostly cheer for the faces and boo the heels. That didn't stop them from both laughing hysterically when Austin Aries beat the shit out of No Way Jose after their NXT Takeover match, never mind Aries won the match!

Last year when Brian Kendrick challenged TJ Perkins for the Cruiser weight belt, my wife (who is not a fan) just happened to decide to watch with us that night. Kendrick and TJ both wrestled as faces in a clean, very good match. My wife was impressed by all the acrobatics/athleticism. TJ eventually won, and they both got well deserved applause. TJ and Brian shake hands and hug, and Brian takes the opportunity to knock TJ down with a headbutt to the face! My kids laugh their asses off. My wife must have forgotten for a second it was a work, and was mad at them for liking Brian's poor sportsmanship.

Wife: STOP THAT! THAT'S NOT FUNNY! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU TWO?

Daughter: Mom, don't be such a mark.

Wife: DO NOT CALL YOUR MOTHER A MARK! (to me): What's a mark?