David Jacobs' BJJGround Gentleman Jim Corbett vs Kan Inoue 1900-11-7

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1905-5-11 Arizona silver belt. LOL. Hack wouldn't have anything to do Tani.

 


1911-7-23 Arizona republican. Yokoyama and darky songs

 

1913-9-21 Bisbee Daily Review. I would see all these picture shows. Wish the production company was listed for the jiu jitsu short.

 

 


1921-2-3 Ft Collins Courier. Tootsie

 


1921-8-31 Ft Collins Courier

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1908-1-28 The London Times.  The Famous CACC tournament at the Alhambra. Count Koma made a very good showing billed as Maida Yamato , and despite giving up over 50 lbs, made it to the heavyweight finals,

 


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1908-2-16 L.A Herald. Hack sets sail for America and a match with Gotch for the heavyweight CACC championship of the world.

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1905-1-4 Minneapolis Journal


1905-1-27 The Commoner


1905-4-15 Brooklyn Life


1905-10-14 NY Sun


1906-2-27 Wyoming Tribune.  I would imagine Chico is one of the usual suspects going under an assumed name.

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This is also a short piece from the Bartitsu site on the Handa school of jiu jitsu that Uyenishi, Yukio Tani and Taro Miyake were from.

 

Yataro Handa and the Handa School in Osaka

Yamamoto’s sensei Yataro Handa was also credited as being Sadakazu Uyenishi’s primary jiujitsu instructor. In a March, 1904 interview with Uyenishi for Health and Strength Magazine, journalist  J. St. A. Jewell wrote:

Uyenishi learned the art from Mr. Yataro Handa of Osaka, Japan, whose portrait I have been fortunate enough to secure. This is a feat of which I am proud, for I believe this is the first time Mr. Handa’s portrait has ever appeared in print.

Tani, another famous jiujitsu man, at present appearing on the music hall stage with Apollo, the Scottish Hercules, was also a pupil of Yataro Handa’s, and I believe I am correct in stating that he received the finishing touches of his jujitsu education at Mr. Handa’s hands.

 

Although Tani’s training with Handa has not been positively confirmed, judo historian Shinichi Oimatsu noted that “Tani was a student of Tanabe Mataemon in Kobe”.  Tanabe and Handa were closely associated – more on that later.

The confirmed affiliation of both Uyenishi and Yamamoto with the Handa dojo may have significance to Bartitsu history and to the modern history of submission grappling in the Western world.

That significance is reinforced by the following quote from Taro Miyake, who likewise competed “against all comers” on London music hall stages during the first decade of the 20th century.  Miyake, who also opened the London School of Jiujitsu and co-authored (or had ghost-written) the book The Game of Jujitsu with Yukio Tani, was quoted quite extensively on the subject of the Handa school in a 1915 interview with an American reporter:

All, or practically all, of the Japanese jiu-jitsu experts who have exhibited in this country [i.e, the USA] have been exponents of the Kodokan style, which has its headquarters in Tokio. Kodokan jiu-jitsu became popular here because it is the style brought into play when two men are standing and it is spectacular.

Therefore, it was the most suitable method to furnish Americans and Europeans with an illustration of how to repel attacks in ordinary assaults.

The other school of jiu-jitsu is called Handa, and its great teachers are at Osaka, where I learned. Handa is more particularly the kind of jiu-jitsu used when two men are on the mat, as in catch-as-catch-can.

The jiu-jitsu tricks of the tiny Japanese policemen, which have been written about so much by travelers, embody the elementary principles of the Kodokan method, and some of the policemen are quite good at them. As I have said, there is little stand-up work in catch-as-catch-can and Handa experts are the ones to offer a comparison between the Japanese and American methods.

Of course, every Kodokan expert knows more or less about Handa, and every Handa man knows a lot about Kodokan, but nevertheless they are each highly specialized, individual professions. Both have the same fundamental principles applied in all jiu-jitsu, which consists in going against the grain, so to speak. That is, if you grip a man’s arm and can get it out straight, you apply the pressure at the elbow against the direction of the natural crook of that joint, and so on, but each school has its own box of tricks.

Miyake’s remarks should be contextualised as part of the ongoing “style vs. style” hand-to-hand combat controversies that featured in the Western media during the pre-WW1 years.  They are, however, also notable in that they conclusively identify the “Handa School” with competitive ne-waza (mat grappling, as in the English catch-as-catch-can style), contrasting that style with the methods of Kodokan judo, which Miyake characterised as standing grappling and throwing or nage-waza.

 

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Allowing that Miyake may well have been communicating with the American journalist via a translator, he clearly meant that he had studied at a jiujitsu dojo in Osaka under a sensei named Handa, but probably did not intend to suggest that the “Handa school” was, in and of itself, a style of jiujitsu.

This is where the history becomes complicated for those who are accustomed to strict correlations between dojo, ryu and sensei.

An entry in the Great Judo Dictionary reports that, in 1881, Professor Jigoro Kano and some Kodokan students had visited Yataro Handa’s Osaka dojo, which was, at that time, listed as being affiliated with the Tenshin Shin’yo-ryu.  This was the same style as taught by Yukio and Kaneo Tani’s father, Torao, and was in fact widely practiced throughout Japan during this period.  The report notes that, at the time of the Kodokan visit, Handa’s students were not particularly skillful at ne-waza – an apparent reference to their later prowess and fame in that specialty.

The Osaka dojo that Handa opened in 1897, however, seems not to have been affiliated with Tenshin Shin’yo-ryu, but rather a style called Daito-ryu.  This was not the well-known style of that name founded by Takeda Sokaku; instead, it was an obscure development of Sekiguchi-ryu jiujitsu.

According to the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten:

Daito-ryu ???? ) Jujutsu. One of the offshoots of Sekiguchi–ryu jujutsu. The founder of Daito-ryu is the 9th soke of SekiguchiShinshin-ryu, Sekiguchi Jushin.

Sekiguchi Jushin (???? )
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Sekiguchi Hanbei (???? )
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Handa Yotaro (or Yataro) (????? )
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Kamimura Yoshio (???? ) – Fushimi Tokisaburo (?????? ) – Ikeda Yoshitada (???? ) – Yamamoto Masami (???? ) – Kasuga Nobutaka

Handa’s dojo has attracted some academic interest in recent years, after research by martial arts historians Tony Wolf, Lance Gatling and Joseph Svinth during the mid-2000s identified it as an early centre of innovation in the type of competitive ne-waza (mat grappling) that is now ubiquitous via Brazilian Jiujitsu and Mixed Martial Arts competitions.

Mataemon “Newaza” Tanabe

 

Much of that innovation has been traced to one man – Mataemon Tanabe, who was formally affiliated with the Fusen-ryu but who also developed a personal specialty in/method of competitive submission grappling.  As Tanabe recalled in the Dai Nippon Judo-shi:

When I trained with my father’s other students I would never give in to a strangle or a lock. When I was fifteen I got caught in an arm-lock and my elbow was dislocated with a loud crack. My tactic was to wait till my opponent got tired and then make a move to free myself. It was the same with strangles. This ability to endure locks and strangles created various strategies for me. I soon came to be called “Newaza-Tanabe”.

When I was seventeen I participated in a mixed sumo and jujutsu competition which consisted of ten bouts spread over a week. My sumo opponents all weighed about 30kan (248lbs) and I beat them all except for one man called Kandagawa who was so fat I could not get a hold him anywhere.

My jujutsu was not so much the result of my fine teachers (I did learn a lot of wrist releases from my father) but because I always chose to fight strong ones and never give in regardless of injuries or unconsciousness. In this way my jujutsu became polished and this made me work out various ways to capitalize on my strengths. For example, I came up with what I called the Unagi no Osaekata (the eel restraint). As is well known if you press an eel with your hand it will slide away and escape but if you put your hand on it gently it can be trapped. Later I came up with the snake and frog technique. Like the snake that slowly swallows a frog one bit at a time my groundwork overwhelmed my opponents in much the same manner.

Yataro Handa was also the sempai (senior) of Mataemon Tanabe, who went on to be recognised as the 4th soke (grandmaster) of the Fusen-ryu.  Thus, it seems likely that, via their sempai-kohai relationship, Handa’s Osaka dojo became an informal headquarters for Tanabe’s innovative and idiosyncratic specialty of submission grappling, as described by himself and by Taro Miyake.  Handa and Tanabe may have collaborated on its development over time; ne-waza was not particularly associated with the Fusen-ryu as a formal style, but may have come to define Handa’s Daito-ryu, about which very little is otherwise known.  Certainly, by c1900, Handa’s dojo was particularly associated with competitive ne-waza.

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In the first section of this French Pathe film footage, shot in Paris during 1912 , jiujitsu instructors Takizaburo Tobari and Taro Miyake demonstrate a formal sequence of ne-waza techniques.  Tobari had begun to focus on ne-waza after losing a sparring match to Mataemon Tanabe in 1891.

 

According to Japanese martial arts historian Minoru Yamada, Tanabe himself taught both Yukio Tani and Taro Miyake at the Senbukan dojo in Kobe during the 1890s, agreeing with Shinichi Oimatsu’s comment that Tani had been “a student of Tanabe Mataemon in Kobe”.   Incidentally – or perhaps not – most of E.W. Barton-Wright’s training was also in Kobe, where he studied at the Shinden Fudo-ryu dojo of sensei Terajima Kuniichiro for about three years (circa 1895-1898).

Thus, and in a sense regardless of their formal ryu affiliations, Yukio Tani, Sadakazu Uyenishi, Seizo Yamamoto and Taro Miyake were all associated with the ne-waza innovations of Mataemon Tanabe and the Handa dojo; Tani via the Senbukan dojo in Kobe and (according to Uyenishi and Oimatsu) via training with Handa; Miyake via both the Senbukan dojo and the Handa dojo in Osaka; Yamamoto and Uyenishi also via training at the Handa dojo.

“Schoolboy jiujitsu”

Bearing in mind that Yukio Tani and Sadakazu Uyenishi were both very young men when they arrived in London, it’s highly likely that they had honed their competitive ne-waza skills during inter-scholastic shiai (competitive randori or sparring) competitions as teenagers in Japan during the 1890s.   A partial list of contests and host schools includes:

1891: No1 High School loses to Gakushuin in judo match
1898: Judo match between No1 and No2 High Schools
1899: No1 against No2
1901: No3 against Kanazawa Medical school
1902: No3 against Keio University
1906: No1 against Tokyo Teachers school
1907: No4 against No6
1908: No6 against Kobe High School of Commerce
1909: No3 against No6
1910: No5 against No7
1910: No1 against No2

Inter-scholastic competition rules (or informal conventions) emphasised ne-waza, due to the belief that mat-grappling was safer than high-amplitude throwing for young competitors and helped to “level the playing field” between styles and competitors.  Those rules also, inevitably, fostered an environment of technical experimentation, as young practitioners from various styles met in competition for the first time.

It’s likely that Handa dojo trainees would have done particularly well in these semi-formal contests, and tempting to speculate that the dojo, and Tanabe’s  ne-waza methods, might have served as laboratories for the competitive submission grappling skills that emerged from the stylistic melting pot of inter-scholastic shiai.  Indeed, Tani, Miyake and Uyenishi all claimed various championships when they travelled to England.

In 1914 the “schoolboy jiujitsu” contests were formalised and sanctioned under the Kodokan judo banner by Professor Jigoro Kano.

“There is so large an element of trickiness about the Japanese method that the English expert might well be caught unawares …”

Yukio Tani demonstrates a flying armbar on William “Apollo the Scottish Hercules” Bankier.

When Tani and Uyenishi first began to compete in London music halls, numerous journalists and other observers marvelled at the jiujitsukas’ expertise at submission wrestling.  This was a great (and frequently controversial) novelty in comparison to the traditional, fall- or pin-based European wrestling styles of their day.  Some critics complained that the Japanese style seemed to be made up of “absolute fouls”, but others remarked that, as unorthodox as the notion of grappling for submission holds may have been to English sensibilities, it was undoubtably effective and well-suited for training in self-defence.

 

 

Above: Sadakazu Uyenishi and Yukio Tani demonstrate ne-waza.

Because Edward Barton-Wright framed his “all comers” challenge matches as “tests” of jiujitsu against European wrestling styles, the matches were effectively fought under competitive jiujitsu rules, regardless of the preferred style(s) of the wrestlers.  Challenged to win prize money by avoiding being submitted within a particular time period, a champion in the Cumberland/Westmoreland style, for example, might find that he was able to throw one of the Bartitsu Club jiujitsuka, but was at a loss as to what do when the jiujitsuka continued to fight after the fall.  Likewise, a catch-as-catch-can wrestler might be able to pin a jiujitsuka’s shoulders to the mat, only to then find himself caught in a submission lock.

With their typically much larger opponents being inexperienced in submission grappling and required to wear jiujitsu gi jackets, Tani and Uyenishi made quick work of most of their matches.  As they were joined in London by Taro Miyake, Akitaro Ono, Mitsuyo Maeda and other venturesome Japanese combat athletes, their collective successes in numerous challenge contests during the first decade of the 20th century swiftly established the efficacy of jiujitsu.

So it was that the competitive submission wrestling spread from the music hall stages of Edwardian London, as European wrestlers grappled with – and learned from – jiujitsuka trained in the Tanabe/Handa methods.

 

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http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/2016/09/

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1930-1-2 Sao Paulo Folha da manha

i found this article that i'd filed away a few years ago, so OCR'd it, pasted it into google translate and this is more or less what came out. I paraphrased a bit. I have no idea who the "true queen" is, or why she would be interested in a  wrasllin match.

 

A TRUE BRAZILIAN FIGHTER FACES THE FAMOUS GEORGE OMORI.

And next Sunday night, in the madison square of São Paulo, specially reserved for this purpose, there will be performed several free fight matches and finalized by the meeting of jiu jitsu, between the Japanese George Omori, and Brazilian athlete Mr. Carlos gracie, a perfect connoisseur of the difficult asian art  and the only Brazilian who has undergone the regulation three years training to be able to obtain the title of fighter.

Those who have read our detailed news have learned what jiu jitsu is. And so, too, he now knows the great work that it costs a man to the learn to struggle with the wonderful method of the great people of the yellow sea.

Mr. Carlos Gracie has been a year challenging George Omori for a private fight, since being an amateur did not want to be in public. But the Japanese, who makes his living with his art, did not want to lose the opportunity of further publicity, knowing which class of adversary he was to meet and whose rank was well-known in sporting environments.

Effectively Mr. Carlos Gracie, has been practicing the dangerous and difficult sport for 10 years. A student of Baron Maeda-Koma, he was able to put himself in the forefront of all the amateurs and professionals who abound in the lands of the north, Belem do Para, his hometown, whose inhabitants attended impressive meetings, applauding the valorous patrician who always knew how to overcome.

We attended a training session of Mr. Gracie, in the field of Sao Bento, deeply impressed by his manner of fighting.  Five strong coaches have been replaced, always dominated by happy blows and demonstrate the deep knowledge of Mr. Gracie.

George Omori is training in secret. He prepares himself for the hard fight that next Sunday will decide an old question between the two athletes.

True Queen is interested in the meeting. The many affectionates of the beautiful Japanese sport, have searched for reports and data that they honor provide, thus satisfying a just curiosity

 

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1931-11-26 Folha Da Noite.  Carlo's nemisis, George Omori.

1959-8-1 Folha Da Manha. Carlson challenges Kimura.

Carlson, according to Carlos Gracie, his father, proposed that Kimura, who is currently in São Palo, face him in a month, approximately, because only then will he feel restored from the fracture of the thumb, Suffered during his last fight against Valdemar Santana. But he admits that his proposal will not be accepted, since before then the former world jiu-jitsu champion should leave Brazil.

 

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1905-3-22 Topeka State Journal

 


1905-3-31 Rock Island Argus

 


1905-8-30 Newport News Daily Press.  Big news picked up by th A.P.  Kizumi(sp?) was a judoka teaching in Ashville with Ono. Ono would defeat "Big" Tom Frisbee later, then lose a NHB match against Olsen. Beale must have been hell on wheels, he defeated Kizumi in the rematch also

 


1905-11-23 La Presse

 

As every night, Higashi, the champion, defeated easily yesterday, at  Bostock Hippodrome, the three wrestlers who were opposed to him and one of them was none other than the champion Dutch van Rothen. But before a uncharacteristic scene had occurred which is worth telling, another jiu-jitsuan, Yuko Tani, jumped up during the ring introduction, whereas a sportsman explained in french, that Yuko Tani launched a challenge to Higashi. Higashi appeared surprised not at all. He approached the speaker and told him he placed through the English press, a challenge to Yuko Tani and Miyake: that neither one nor the other  had replied, and that he was astonished, that, Yuko Tani had changed his mind today, but, nevertheless, he was ready to fight with him, either - next Saturday or Saturday following.  

A number of spectators demanded that the meeting would take place then, but Mr Bostock himself announced that he wished that all the guarantees of sincerity ' were taken. As a result, the two Japanese antagonists met this afternoon at four o'clock, assisted by their seconds. to establish the rules of the game '-which will take place likely Saturday night.

The Match of Re-nie  vs Aimaihou  

Re-nie has returned from Ghent where he triumphed over three champions opposed to his Jiu-Jitsu,and has began training for his match with the Negro Amathou. We know one fact that he will meet with the terrible Senegalese on the night of November 30/ December 1, at an hour in the early morning, in the room of the bal Tabarin, specially rented for this fight. We understand that this has stirred many in the world of wrestling, around the meeting with the Canadian and that two other challenges will be brought to Re-nie by two professionals.  
 

 


1907-2-7 Cardiff Evening Express

kizumi was actually koizumi, later founder of the London Budokwai.

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i had posted a link to this a few pages back, since then i popped the text, colored the illustrations and converted it into an epub. The pdf is generated from the epub file.

 

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William Colosimo gave me this pic of Count Koma(Maeda) and Daibutsu(Ono) at their London Academy. This would have been sometime 1907-08. It appears to be prior to the 1908 catch tournament at the Alhambra where Koma made it to the finals of the heavyweight division.

 

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Is all this real? It’s blowing my mind.

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#fakenews

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#Go stick your head in a wood chipper, comsymp

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I've since discovered the jiu-jitsu short was one of the yukio tani movies, probably "jiu-jitsu to the rescue".

I'm sure everyone has been on pins and needles wondering

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Cool Thread!

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if anyone wants of these now's the time to save them, they'll be disappearing on the 26th

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if anyone wants of these now's the time to save them, they'll be disappearing on the 26th


Why will they be disappearing?
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tinypic has been discombobulated

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Ttt

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I wonder if we can somehow archive this entire thread as photos or something Don't think i will have time to save the clippings and detailed comments from this thread.
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i tried a mass tinypic export to photobucket but it's not supported