Revgear League BJJGround If you could allow one illegal sub at purple

8/27/13 11:01 PM
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Anybody find it weird that in the ibjjf rules purple belt is the only belt in which a new sub is not introduced??

I don't think it would be unreasonable to introduce straight knee bars at purple. What does atama forum think? Or are knee bars really more dangerous than I think? Phone Post 3.0
8/27/13 11:07 PM
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all the leg locks at purple should be available IMO..
8/27/13 11:15 PM
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knee bars for sure Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 1:39 AM
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It would maybe stop people loosing their minds whenever a brown belt tries for a knee bar. Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 2:03 AM
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Knee bah. Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 3:19 AM
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When I saw the title of the thread I thought "kneebar" - glad everyone agrees! :-D Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 3:21 AM
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Can't argue with this thread.

I'd allow all leg lock positions tbh including the reap.
8/28/13 3:34 AM
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All subs should be legal at purple and higher.  At the very least kneebars.

8/28/13 3:41 AM
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Kneebar!  They open up a whole new dimension of grappling.  

8/28/13 5:54 AM
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Knee bah for sure. Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 8:36 AM
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Easy, kneebar! Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 11:25 AM
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Kneebars and toeholds for sure. At black belt I'd like to see reaping and even heel hooks legal. It's strange that due to IBJJF rules you basically have generations of grapplers now learning to do leglocks incorrectly.
8/28/13 1:03 PM
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kneebars!

8/28/13 1:12 PM
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aarick161 - 

All subs should be legal at purple and higher.  At the very least kneebars.


The idea that someone of legit purple belt skill would be oblivious to any common sub is simply ludicrous.
8/28/13 1:23 PM
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Shotta - Knee bah. Phone Post 3.0
I came here to say exactly this. Knee bah Phone Post
8/28/13 2:31 PM
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Toe holds at purple. TH and Kneebars at brown. Heel hooks at black and no gi only. No heel hooks in gi. Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 2:35 PM
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I'd say if anything kneebars should come before toeholds. Toeholds can twist the knee like a heel hook.
8/28/13 2:36 PM
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KNEE BAAAAAHHHHH! Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 2:45 PM
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I say everything should be legal, toeholds, knee bars and even bicep/ calf slicers. If you're a purple belt, then you have been training long enough to know what dangers you are in and/or how to defend the sub. Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 3:22 PM
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Oil check.
8/28/13 5:25 PM
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reap Phone Post 3.0
8/28/13 10:33 PM
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heel hook,that would stop the position that bore me
8/28/13 10:36 PM
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everything legal for black belts should be legal at purple.

The big issue is that going for toe holds and knee bars often leads to 50/50
8/28/13 11:34 PM
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Yeah but people would be less happy to hang out there when someone's trying to heel hook their ass.
8/29/13 12:10 AM
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Toe holds.