Revgear League BJJGround Who are the highest-ranked living Carlson BBs...?

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Pinduka, Marcus Soares...??? I know I am missing some names.

I believe Rosado was, but he passed away.

Just curious. Thanks!

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11/8/09
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What rank is Carlson jr?

I heard they're doing some sort of Carlson black belt reunion seminars.

I train at a Marcus affiliate. It's really cool when he comes to teach. His techniques are all very direct and easy to learn. Nothing is complicated and there is very little wasted energy. It's all very brutal. Ha. Pressure pressure pressure.

One of my favourite things he says is, "and his only option ees to tap."
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I think Jr is 5th, so there are others who are higher... Just want to know who, other than Pinduka & Soares.

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I remember hearing about Orlando Saraiva a few months ago. I believe he is a red belt.
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shen - 

Pinduka, Marcus Soares...??? I know I am missing some names.

I believe Rosado was, but he passed away.

Just curious. Thanks!


Rosado is still alive.

Pinduka is 8th degree. Sergio Bolao is a 7th degree I think. De la Riva gets his seventh degree in August.
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Saporito is 7th, right? I've seen a couple of vids recently of Pinduka and Saporito showing self defense -  https://www.gallerr.com/gallerr/gallery/bjj-fernando-pinduka-teaches-2-self-defense-positions

James

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Hywel Teague - 
shen - 

Pinduka, Marcus Soares...??? I know I am missing some names.

I believe Rosado was, but he passed away.

Just curious. Thanks!


Rosado is still alive.

Pinduka is 8th degree. Sergio Bolao is a 7th degree I think. De la Riva gets his seventh degree in August.

 

Really...?

Wasn't there a Carlson Red Belt who died in the last couple years? I thought it was him and Ithought he was the only one. Maybe it was someone else...? 

I must be confused.

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Carlson has at least four living Red Belts

1. Rosado

2. Carley Gracie

3. Orlando Saraiva

4. Arthur Virgilio Neto

 

Oswaldo "Paqueta" was also one of his Red Belts who passed away within the past few years.

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^ OK, thank you!

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Rosado got his 9 th degree red in 1989 when he was 40 years old. Federcao rules were different then with degrees every 2 years and lower age limits.
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There's one in Colorado I trained with a lifetime ago, he was also a famous surfer. He's got to be up there

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Hywel Teague - 
shen - 

Pinduka, Marcus Soares...??? I know I am missing some names.

I believe Rosado was, but he passed away.

Just curious. Thanks!


Rosado is still alive.

Pinduka is 8th degree. Sergio Bolao is a 7th degree I think. De la Riva gets his seventh degree in August.

I was just gonna mention Bolão. My teacher is from his lineage. Brutal jiu jitsu.
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Julio Foca Fernandez got his blackbelt from Carlson in 1988. I think he was around the De La Riva era.

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Apparently, Authur Virgilio Neto is also the Mayor of Manaus.

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is Cassio Cardoso a red belt now?

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EazyG - 

is Cassio Cardoso a red belt now?


Cassio is still red/black coral belt (7th degree). I assume he should be getting his red/white coral belt soon.
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question: how much of a difference in knowledge is there when you get to these high-level belts?

Making up an example say 5th and 9th degree? Is it just age and contributions to the sport that make the biggest difference is there a notable skill gap too?

The difference between blue and purple, or purple and brown, can be substantial.

Is it like that at those levels or no?
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damn, Carley is still alive?
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TFK_Fanboy - question: how much of a difference in knowledge is there when you get to these high-level belts?

Making up an example say 5th and 9th degree? Is it just age and contributions to the sport that make the biggest difference is there a notable skill gap too?

The difference between blue and purple, or purple and brown, can be substantial.

Is it like that at those levels or no?

 

I don't know because I am not at that level.

But one night at Gene LeBell's school  I talked to the late Toney Raven (Judo 8th dan?) who had just come in 2nd in a World Masters Judo Tournament. He told me,  "If all the martial arts knowledge in the world were contained in this room and everything I knew was behind me and everything I didn't know was in front of me, I'd be standing with my back about an inch away from that wall."

Then he bowed and got on the mat.

I'll never forget that.

 

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I'm pretty sure that Marcus was a red and white belt the last time he was here. I could be wrong though...
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Here's a relavent pic from that seminar last weekend. How many BB's can you name?

blue plz

http://i68.tinypic.com/dlhmys.jpg

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Shinsplint - 

Here's a relavent pic from that seminar last weekend. How many BB's can you name?

blue plz

http://i68.tinypic.com/dlhmys.jpg


Not seeing any pic at that link?

James

4 days ago
5/7/06
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Junior is 6th

other names worth mentioning are

Peixothino, Pinduka, Marcio dos Santos

And Marcus Soares has the most evil, straight up abusively brutal jiu-jitsu I've ever experienced.

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5/7/06
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I've also rolled with Kiko Velloso, who's a red & black belt.

The man is still a death machine.

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11/8/09
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I agree with the abusive brutality of Marcus's style of jiujitsu. It's awesome.