OtherGround Forums Official Premier League 2017-18 Season thread

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United being paid more than city for their premier League season this year despite second place finish. (Had more televised matches)

 

I'll take another small victory 

 

I fear a break away euro super league is only a matter of time.

 

They will carve up all the international TV and sponsorship money between them.  What will happen to all the other leagues, who knows?

 

1. Man utd

2.  Barce

3.  Real 

4.  Athletico

5.  Man city

6.  Ajax

7.  Bayern

8.  AC Milan

9.  Liverpool

10.  Juve

11.  Arsenal

12.  Glasgow Rangers

13. Dortmund

14.  tottenham

15.  Inter

16.  Sevilla

17.  Chelsea

18.  Roma

19.  PSG

20.  Glasgow Celtic

Are probably the teams capable of maximising revenue.

Then

and maybe another 2nd division as well is what the future holds.

5/17/18 1:11 PM
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I love Rangers too bro but you think they can field 2 sides in the super league?

 

Lol i assume Celtic?

 

I think it will happen eventually and it could make the leagues more competitive with the perennials out of the picture. 

I wonder if they would have to play at least some domestic league matches.

Maybe split the 38 games between the super league teams in the premier League. Like utd plays 19 random league games and city play the other 19.

Dont know how you would make the matches mean anything to the big clubs but would keep tv money in the leagues

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biggator - 

I love Rangers too bro but you think they can field 2 sides in the super league?

 

Lol i assume Celtic?

 

I think it will happen eventually and it could make the leagues more competitive with the perennials out of the picture. 

I wonder if they would have to play at least some domestic league matches.

Maybe split the 38 games between the super league teams in the premier League. Like utd plays 19 random league games and city play the other 19.

Dont know how you would make the matches mean anything to the big clubs but would keep tv money in the leagues

 

"I love Rangers too bro but you think they can field 2 sides in the super league?

 

Lol i assume Celtic?"

 

What you on about?  you have no evidence guvnor!

 

Seriously - one theory i heard was an american football like 2 sided tournament with teams meeting in the middle for a superbowl finale.  say a 16 team league on either side - and then a round of 16 etc.

 

Who knows about the ordinary national league?  Imagine how terrible it would be if they stayed in and played the B team.  jesus.

 

5/17/18 2:43 PM
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hahahahah

 

5/17/18 3:37 PM
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Mencken - 

Who would you guys say is the best manager in the game today?  Guys like Pep are undeniably good, but he spent an absolute shitload to get City the PL trophy. 

 

My vote is for Simeone. What he's done with Atletico is really impressive, especially considering he's been up against two of the greatest teams in history.  


Cant overlook Simeone.  Plus Allegri and Ancelloti, Mourinho on trophies won. 

But for me it has to be Pep.  Yes he has the best teams,  with all the money.  But few manager actually change a cultures entire outlook on the sport.

He won the league with 100 points, 100 goals, best defence, whilst playing the most beautiful attacking football.  Pretty crazy.

He hasnt finished yet, and today just signed a new three year contract.

5/17/18 4:17 PM
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I think what poch has turned spurs into with no money or huge wages is far more impressive 

5/17/18 4:27 PM
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Dravenlives - 

I think what poch has turned spurs into with no money or huge wages is far more impressive 


Yep, that's fair.  He's a very impressive manager. But there is something of a house of cards feeling there.  If Kane goes this summer, they're in trouble

5/17/18 5:35 PM
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Dravenlives -

I think what poch has turned spurs into with no money or huge wages is far more impressive 

Then pep or in general? I'd agree with simeone although I can probably only appreciate it from a distance and don't want to see him in the premiership. I wonder how familiar with him fans are who want him, particularly united fans who criticise mourinhos tactics in the same post they suggest he be the replacement
5/17/18 7:22 PM
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Jored1990 -
Dravenlives -

I think what poch has turned spurs into with no money or huge wages is far more impressive 

Then pep or in general? I'd agree with simeone although I can probably only appreciate it from a distance and don't want to see him in the premiership. I wonder how familiar with him fans are who want him, particularly united fans who criticise mourinhos tactics in the same post they suggest he be the replacement

Than pep...its hard to look past pep given the season he's had but could he build a team up with no insane transfer fees and wages....guess we'll never know 

5/17/18 7:35 PM
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Pep will only manage big clubs, after city it will probably be juve or psg so we'll never see him operate on a limited budget. I think at a point in a career like his he's earnt that, I don't agree with people who say mourinho should take a more challenging job either, he doesn't need to but at least jose has porto

Simeone contending with big egos who don't want to run themselves into the ground or play his style of football would be interesting. It's been rumored for a while that he'll eventually go to inter, I could see him at chelsea though
5/18/18 4:29 AM
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I can't believe Arsenal aren't in for Simeone 

 

He'd sort out their weak mentality

5/18/18 5:07 AM
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He would, but you'd probably have a situation like at united where some fans are happy that they're on a better course than under moyes or van gaal, but also fans who hate the football. Arsenal are known for their attacking football, if they were playing like atletico I guarantee a decent percentage of their fans wouldn't like it

I hope they hire arteta just for the immediate fallout
5/18/18 8:37 AM
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Mencken -
Dravenlives - 

I think what poch has turned spurs into with no money or huge wages is far more impressive 


Yep, that's fair.  He's a very impressive manager. But there is something of a house of cards feeling there.  If Kane goes this summer, they're in trouble

What’s the amount they’re talking about getting for Kane?

 

Spurs came out saying yesterday they’ll match any offer for Pulisic, and I think the last number Dortmund threw out was €40M..

5/18/18 9:06 AM
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Hasn't pulisic had a poor season? I know klopp rates him and Liverpool have been linked with him persistently since klopp took over. I've never seen him play, I could see him being like eriksen as far as being a player liverpool were reliably linked to alot and must regret not signing

I don't know why liverpool don't seem to be interested in alderweireld
5/18/18 9:19 AM
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A super league would destroy domestic football.

Personally, I think it would be terrible for the sport.

5/18/18 11:05 AM
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Jored1990 - Hasn't pulisic had a poor season? I know klopp rates him and Liverpool have been linked with him persistently since klopp took over. I've never seen him play, I could see him being like eriksen as far as being a player liverpool were reliably linked to alot and must regret not signing

I don't know why liverpool don't seem to be interested in alderweireld

Pulisic will be the best American player to date. I'm kind of surprised FSG hasn't pushed to get him

5/18/18 11:06 AM
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Dravenlives - 

I can't believe Arsenal aren't in for Simeone 

 

He'd sort out their weak mentality


They couldn't get him with the model their board wants. They want a weaker manager that is a caretaker and focused on that, while someone else handles the transfers. 

5/20/18 9:26 AM
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One of the worst cup finals I've ever seen

5/20/18 10:56 AM
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Dravenlives -

One of the worst cup finals I've ever seen

Are you getting tired of Mourinho and his 'The press only criticize me' bullshit? People always say he's good at mind games but I think he's just a legit narcissist. Ferguson would say things that were obviously hypocritcial and it would get under other managers skin which seemed calculated, Mourinho just fucking whines and pouts

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awful.  normally when a game like that is tight , i usualy like it to go to extra time - just because its more.  but here i just wanted chelsea to win and it to end.

5/20/18 12:25 PM
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Mencken -

Who would you guys say is the best manager in the game today?  Guys like Pep are undeniably good, but he spent an absolute shitload to get City the PL trophy. 

 

My vote is for Simeone. What he's done with Atletico is really impressive, especially considering he's been up against two of the greatest teams in history.  

Simeone for sure.

A younger Mourinho.

A younger Arsene Wenger

5/20/18 4:09 PM
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Jored1990 -
Dravenlives -

One of the worst cup finals I've ever seen

Are you getting tired of Mourinho and his 'The press only criticize me' bullshit? People always say he's good at mind games but I think he's just a legit narcissist. Ferguson would say things that were obviously hypocritcial and it would get under other managers skin which seemed calculated, Mourinho just fucking whines and pouts

I agree with him that he does face more scrutiny than say conte but the difference is he's at United...conte can get away with that performance at Chelsea 

 

Can you imagine the reaction if we played like Chelsea and won 1-0 with a penalty....admittedly we were pretty dire too

 

But yes my patience is wearing very thin more so with his failure to get performances from Martial pogba Rashford and Shaw...they should be the future of our club

 

He signed Sanchez and turned him into bendtner

5/22/18 6:18 AM
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So Emery is taking the Arsenal job, I wondered why he hadn't been linked to them, it had been common knowledge for months that Tuchel was taking over at PSG and he makes alot more sense than Arteta

 

It's funny to see Arsenal fans act like Emery is some big get, he had two seasons at PSG and won the league once. He has a good record and will most likely improve Arsenal, but he probably barely makes the top 5 of the names that Arsenal fans were floating around like Simeone, Allegri and Ancelotti

5/22/18 7:15 AM
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Arsenal board just want a yes man that will get them top 4 every year

 

Apparently they told Arteta the transfer budget is 50 million LOL

 

That should be Southamptons budget not Arsenal

5/22/18 7:52 AM
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If you look at Emerys record its not fantastic.  Its good, but......

When in spain, where he made his name, he never finished in the top three.

i would have tanken ancelotti over him.

 

I read a quote from Kroenki a few years ago which said, something like, - I didnt buy Arsenal to win Trophies.

  It really is awful for Arsenal fans to have an owner who really just wants to make the top four, as a financial interest.  Whose motives are different from those of the the fans.

It makes a mockery of the sport, and there is even something slightly sinister about it.  

But its capitalism, so what can you do?