OtherGround Forums Salt Lake City Creepy Daycare Saga (reddit)

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A person on reddit posted about a daycare that they lived nearby, and never once saw anyone coming in or out in the 5 years they lived next to the place. Multiple residents posted saying that they had also noticed weird stuff about the building.

Once people started digging things begin to get kind of strange. The original post was deleted but a screencap was apparently grabbed. (Huge image - http://i.imgur.com/8lGhBoo.png)

They have consolidated a lot of the posts to bring all of the findings together here...

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2tvah1/slc_creepy_daycare_saga/

The first few hours

/u/discogodfather6922 (local flair) posts a thread to /r/SaltLakeCity asking "What's the deal with this place? Lived across the street from it for 5 years, never seen a kid there."

/u/DeformedReality, /u/filluppp and /u/DigitalGarden all recognize the place and have wondered about it or have thought of it as creepy.

/u/Maikudono says, "I've never seen anyone there"

/u/username_id says, "We live nearby and my kids call it the 'scary house'. In the 10 years I have lived in this neighborhood I have never seen anyone come in or out of that place. Totally creepy."

/u/gthing says, "Also live nearby. Noticed some odd looking equipment in the back covered very securely by a camo tarp the other day. It was not haphazardly secured, either. I noticed specifically that it looked like a boy scout had done it or something. I thought it looked odd next to the sad looking playground equipment and was surprised because the place seemed shut down."

The Warning

/u/DeathShip says, "I am going to advise you guys to stop looking into this place"

/u/801throwaway (new account) digs through posting history of /u/DeathShip to find in past posts DeathShip has claimed to be: "Linguist for the air force, been stationed at area 51 and occasionally hangs out in conspiracy subs, questionably discharged."

/u/DeathShip responds that he speaks 8 languages, "Hindi Urdu Punjabi Bengali Nepali Balochi German and English"


The Former Client

/u/lumpychick (new account) says that her kids attended from 2001 to 2006/2007 and it was a positive experience. A new owner bought the place in 2006 and "They were horrible, neglectful and borderline abusive". She also says these new owners were the ones to first paint it the current color.

/u/lumpychick follows up with a link to the public complaints against the center. Shows normal complaints up until 2011, nothing since.

/u/Effyup finds another site with two newer incidents one in 2013 and one in 2014.


The Upkeep

/u/gthing (local flair) links to streetview and notes that the swamp cooler was running. Image is dated July 2014.
Also note that the paint is faded and graffiti has been painted over. If you compare to the image that started this whole thing the paint new and fresh. This would indicate that the building is being maintained. Also that the banner with the phone number was removed at some point and put back up after the paint job.

More.

The Webiste

/u/LessThanDan finds their website, for a while it was reddit hugged, but it's currently up. Website has been replaced with empty page.

/u/tanasbourne and /u/Infamous_Lunchbox link to similar website for another day care in VA

Someone (can't find the post, possibly deleted before screencap) looks up whois info on site. Reports that it belongs to a city employee. Within hours whois info is scrubbed.

/u/jortr0n reposts his original comment I mentioned above "This gets deep. URL is owned by a city employee. Why does the cities multimedia manager own the URL? The county assessor's office says it's owned by Chunga International LLC. They have failed to renew their business license since 08/26/2014. The registering agent has the same last name as the SLC employee. Fun Time Kidz Kare hasn't been registered since 05/24/2006. What's with the fresh paint?"

/u/arynx has a great post in this thread with a lot of research on the website. He continues to update the post so rather than try to list everything here I suggest you check his post below.
/u/kmdr finds a site selling the template that the original website was built from. "This is easily explained, as that's a template for websites being sold in several places. For example, see http://templateplus24.de/[1] (fourth from the top)"

The Lettercarrier

/u/PaulDuane says, "I used to be a letter carrier in that neighborhood. It was full of kids every time I went there. The only strange thing is, no matter what time of day I showed up with their mail, it always seemed to be nap time."

The Break-in

(user requested his name be removed) says, "I just talked to my friend who lived right be there for about a year and said one night they jimmied their way in out of curiosity and in the main room was mostly just a chair facing a TV displaying a live video of the other room in the building." He also adds, "The laundromat across the street constantly has cops there for drug busts."
In the PM to me he said, "I stand by that comment but would rather not be attached to it if that makes sense."

Stop Gossip

/u/StopGossip (new account, now deleted) claims to know the owners and defends the place vigorously. Most if not all of the posts with username deleted in the screenshot are from this person. StopGossip digs through OPs posting history and leaves with "I have been in your house and we played with your action figures. Remember when I put them down your asshole?"
/u/StopGossip is also the user who requested removal on the original thread.

The Phone Calls (*note please don't call these people)

Multiple redditors call the phone number and get little response. When they do get a live person the phone is answered with "hello" rather than a business name.

OP /u/discogodfather6922 (local flair) gets a phone call through and the person says that you can only get your kids there through workforce services.

The Wumbler

/u/thewumbler (new account) claims to have video of children inside place. Later says he had trouble getting them off his phone. Finally returns and says, "According to the police, it is now closed."

In for creepiness

The Visits

This screen grab of a post was PMed to me, he said it popped up in the other thread here in conspiracy but was quickly removed. https://i.imgur.com/3MC8bMF.jpg

/u/bl00k stopped by and got pics of a little old lady cleaning up.

/u/casstastrophe21 was stopped at the light and got pics of a man standing outside, possibly with a badge and radio.

Info From the Masses

This section contains info I have received in PMs, I figure if the person wanted their name attached they would have posted it in the comments below. This info will not be attached to a username, take that for what it's worth.

Business Listing

The name from whois before it was scrubbed is attached to a variety of local interests. These may or may not be the same person: concealed carry permit instructor, HAM radio operator, real estate agent, webmaster for a site to reelect a local politician. I have links for all these but I feel posting his name brings us too close to a witchhunt.

This same name is attached to "a 36 year old was arrested by ICE in Utah County (the person in question with this child care place appears to reside in Provo ) and was convicted on a charge of distribution of meth. 60 months in custody, then back to ICE for deportation. The criminal charges I found on PACER, but the arrest is easily googled."

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Interdasting, this is a great idea for a horror movie.

The Shipment

/u/sithlordmoore posted:

So I looked into the bill of lading # and they shipped to 4 places other than Salt Lake City the plastic jewelry. Oregon, Iowa, Chicago, and California. Each place had the exact same weight of product shipped to them (1100kg) http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=38000261&year=2013&consignee=funland-jumpers[1]
http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=27299049&year=2013&consignee=fun-with-phonics[2]
http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=32762087&year=2013&consignee=fundamental-financial-group[3]
http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=33759053&year=2013&consignee=funcrest-bait-shop[4]

I received the following via PM

Funcrest Bait shop, note the address of the company: http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=33759053&year=2013&consignee=funcrest-bait-shop

Registered sex offender, Note his home address: http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/IA7684/Allan-Duane-Adams.html

Fundamental Financial Corp/Financial Fundamental Corp http://fonroid.com/canonical.jsp?id=32762087&year=2013&consignee=fundamental-financial-group

Note: Xxxxx Xxxxx (Owner) Phone xxx-xxx-xxxx

http://www.brightscope.com/financial-planning/advisor/173704/Aaron-Vasil/

Note the address: 200 W. Adams, Ste 2230 Chicago, IL 60606

Same address as on BL, however http://businessprofiles.com/details/fundamental-financial-group-llc/IL-01860488 The company on the BL is registered to the same guy, but in a town ~40miles away All are listed on the same BL for the container facilitated by: http://www.funstuffinc.net/ A profile of one of their execs:

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-%22soup%22-campbell/33/ba9/369

Scroll down a little and you'll see the blurb was posted on reddit about the company he worked for. This guy facilitated the transfer of the container form china to the US

/u/JustAnotherGuyPoopin posted an analysis of the shipments which he continues to edit so rather than try to summarize I will just link it...

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2tvah1/slc_creepy_daycare_saga/co468u1

tl;dr

5 companies are on a bill of lading for 1 shipping container, contents listed as 1.1KG of "plastic jewelry", and 6,852KG of "soccer/footballs" from China. 1 company in California makes electronic and other "educational toys" and seems to be on the up-and-up. 1 bait-shop in Idaho with a registered sex-offender living at the same address as a company listed as receiver of goods from the shipment. 1 Some financial agency shell-game in Chicago. 1 shady day care in Salt Lake City whose owner shares the last name with an executive (see management, not mayoral) level employee working in City Hall. 1 bounce house rental company in Oregon no one has looked into yet.

The actual shipping of this container was facilitated by a company with an employed sales executive who once bought/sold 'merchandise' in the defense sector.

My money's on a drug front.

Shipping FRAT

/facts
An executive who possibly networked transactions to and for, what I could only imagine being, a very intriguing international clientele in said defense industry. However, there is nothing that explicitly connects this individual to the shipping of the container, other than he is employed for the company on the BL.
None of that is made up. The links are all right in this thread.

Except the stuff I've mentioned in my edits below, which I'll gladly share and encourage you to contact me to receive via PM. I just don't want this shut down for bs 'doxxing'

Now, onto the post.....

Ok, not only was it the exact weights, it's the exact same product descriptions and shipping dates.
And 'Funcrest Bait Shop' sounds shady as hell. Although, all the names here involved are curious; Funland Jumpers, Fun With Phonics, Funcrest Bait Shop, and Fundamental Financial Group. Someone really likes to have fun, and they all like getting the exact same stuff shipped to them on the same boat on the same day. A literal boatload of fun!!

 

 

That's why reddit can be cool some times, sooo many contributers. But hard as fuck to follow.

EDIT: all of them, all 5 business, had all their stuff shipped in the same container.

EDIT 2: Didn't realise I had made a new post, didn't mean to do that. But I wanted to add:

The address for Fun Time Bait shop, is the same address for a registered sex offender. Not the owner of the business mind you, but we now have a legit tie-in to pedo and these chinese shipments. So, that's, something?

The Fundamental Financial Group shipment: There is no website of record for this business, however a search for the name on the BL brings up a gentleman in the chicagoland area, currently working at two places; Fundamental and North South Capital, LLC. The address on the BL is actually the address for North South even though the company listed is Fundamental, Fundamental is registered at a totally different location about 40-50 min away. Smells like some shell-corp antics afoot all over this thing.

EDIT 3: So it seems one of the executives, based on his linked-in profile, at Fun Stuff Inc (facilitator of the chinese shipment) used to work for a short time with another company
Regional Account Manager servicing the Defense Industry with Tactical Equipment, Operational Gear, MRO, Fire and Emergency Services, Expeditionary, Medical, and simplified logistic solutions.

ADS has developed procedures that shorten the "logistics pipeline" to provide rapid response and the best possible pricing to our customers worldwide.

ADS specializes in working with defense and security contractors as well as protective services organizations. No matter what uniform you wear, our mission is to provide the specialized equipment and related services you need to complete your mission at home, in theater, or around the globe.

Nope, nothing curious about that. Oh, and the company he works for now is the one who has their current merchandise pehind password protection. Look at their site again, and ask why that is necessary.

EDIT 4: Can't seem to find much about the Fun With Phonics company, other than a lawsuit with Leapfrog. What I do find curious though, is this is a company with almost 1 mil in annual revenue. What are they doing in bed with these other 4 companies and shell corps?

Oh, the owner has spent some time in Africa you say? Educating the children of Ethiopia? Good for him!

Cliff notes?

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And then?

Salt the Snail - 

My money's on a drug front.

Maybe that's what the white rabbit really stands for?

http://i61.tinypic.com/155jekh.jpg

whoa

Forgot to post this one with some links to the other threads...

The Spread

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2tsgoy/so_people_are_looking_into_a_weird_building_in_my/

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/2tsrls/salt_lake_redditor_posts_a_picture_of_a_creepy/

Deciphering the code

https://www.reddit.com/r/codes/comments/2twec3/need_help_what_could_this_mean_5982471595/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoSleepSleuths/comments/2twhur/so_i_was_the_orinigal_op_who_posted_about_the/

The shipment

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2u343a/the_slc_day_care_shipping_container_and/

Looking for the other daycare in VA

http://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/2u39oj/theres_something_creepy_going_on_in_salt_lake/

MightyMorphinPowerReptilians - Cliff notes?

 

Guy posts on reddit about a creepy daycare center across from him. Its maintained but creepy looking never seen kids there only a weird old lady who cleans it. People who live in the area start reporting on weird things they have seen or heard from this place. People try to contact the place and they say to register they have to go through "Workforce". People start getting threatened on reddit to stop digging. A redditor starts digging further finds that this place along with 4 other companies all starting with fun in seperate states have bought and recieved shipments of 1,100 KG of Plastics from china. One of the companies is supposed to be a school, but its an abandoned lot in the woods. Another company is a bait shop run by a sex offender. Once people start looking into it on reddit people continue to threaten people and say they will get killed if they keep digging. Meanwhile at this school where the OP was reporting he's never seen a kid or a soul in the place he one day in the afternoon sees a pizza guy show up and leave (probably a prank) and then 2 kids show up knock on the door and are let inside by weird lady (again this guy who lives across the street has never seen kids there until they started digging into this place. Thats as far as I got.

 

Two biggest theories are its a drug front or a highly organized childcare welfare scam.

 

Another theory is child sex trafficing ring.