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10/11/17 11:03 AM
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StruggleSnuggles - Neymar is set to make $54 million this year just from his contract... I'd gladly be called a pussy while in smashing all the high end pussy I want for $54m a year.

Ariaga!

Ariaga too!

 

and Boraga!!!

 

most americans have never heard of Neymar

10/11/17 11:20 AM
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It is pretty sad that we have what could be the best American player ever in Christian Pulisic and can't even make the WC field.

10/11/17 11:28 AM
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10/11/17 11:30 AM
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StruggleSnuggles - Neymar is set to make $54 million this year just from his contract... I'd gladly be called a pussy while in smashing all the high end pussy I want for $54m a year.

Im sure you will look good with your extra medium jersey, Faux hawk and spray tan. Chick dig that Euro-queer look.

10/11/17 12:07 PM
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Squatdog - America clearly has inferior athletes.

Imagine every cornerback and 4.4 running halfback in college and the pros playing soccer.

 

Lol. Gg, world.

My my...how has nobody thought of this yet? why arent soccer teams full of olympic track athletes?

 

Imagine an Offensive Lineman in goal too! he'd be so big that the ball couldnt even pass him!

Wait, you really don't understand that Americas best athletes play 4 sports before they get to soccer? Lol

Soccer is for kids whose moms won't let them play Pop Warner and girls.

What does this have to do with my post?

You seem unable to grasp the simple fact that Americans have money for sports equipment so our kids aren't stuck kicking a ball around for 90 minutes without any scoring, they can play real sports so "American" soccer players are our 5th worst athletes playing against the best athletes from other countries.

Im glad we lost, the pussification of America is in line with the growth of soccer, hopefully this curbs that some.

This still doesnt have anything to do with my post. And the rest of your "hur hur everyone else plays soccer because they're poor" argument is retarded and objectively false. You really think Europeans cant afford a plastic helmet, a bat or a basketball hoop? and that literally the only thing anyone ever has the opportunity to play in these countries is soccer? 

 

Also, attracting the most athletes is not the same as having the best athletes. 

It absolutely does, someone mentioned cornerbacks and running backs in the NFL, guys that are infinitely more athletic than the best soccer players in the world, and you replied sarcastically with your "track athlete" and offensive lineman takes.

Soccer is the most popular sport in the world(numbers wise) because most of the world is poor and all you need is a ball.

The best athletes in the world are Americans and our best athletes play football first, then baseball and basketball, then hockey up North, then soccer.

In America, soccer is for the bottom 20% of athletes, women and small children age 4-6.

 

Soccer has a talent pool possibly bigger than the entire global pool of the big 4 sports in America combined, it also has the biggest and widest reaching scouting networks. If having the attributes of a running back or cornerback won games, teams would be full of guys like that by now. 

 

and no, once again, "best" and "most" are not the same. Athleticism is also heavily reliant on the physical requirements of the sport and the type of training regimes it employs. Soccer countries dont field their most athletic people, they field their best soccer players. This seems to be a huge misunderstanding that Americans who dont follow soccer have. The US team is athletically on par, they just arent as skilled or tactical as the top teams. 

 

"Its popular because its poor" holds no weight because there are tons of things that contradict it, like it being the no1 sport in a bunch of rich, highly developed nations.

 

"Its popular because furriners r fags" holds no weight, because plenty of nations where its popular also play violent sports like rugby, hockey, boxing etc. 

 

And of course you dropped the "Murica has the best athletes" line, i'm assuming you're going to go "LOOK AT THE OLYMPIC MEDAL COUNT" next too, right?

Again, we aren't talking about the "global" talent pool, we are talking about America and how our best athletes don't play soccer.

Its really simple, the best 20 athletes in a class in the UK all play soccer, maybe 1 or 2 of the best 20 athletes in an American class play soccer

It's also boring as fuck to most of us who grew up watching real sports which explains why the average attendance at NFL games is 70,000 fans, average attendance of MLS games is 21,000.

In America, soccer will always be for 4-6 year old boys, girls and the kids who are unable to throw a spiral, make a layup or hit a fastball.

 

 

I never said that America wouldnt be better at soccer if more Americans played it, thats common sense. Its the "best athletes" shit that I find hilariously stupid. If it was the no1 sport in the US the USMNT wouldnt suddenly be full of supermen who jump 20 feet in the air on corners, shoot at 150mph and cover the length of the field with throw ins. Its going to be guys with the same physical attributes as now, only better at passing, shooting, dribbling and reading the game. 

 

The "real sports" shit is just typical cliched ignorant BS, I actually used to watch American football and have tried to get others into it. Trust me, your perception of soccer is the same way they see football. The comparison between the NFL and the MLS (a league that isnt even in the top 10 of its sport) is clearly pretty unfair too. 

 

Also, reminder that any white male who is still watching the NFL at this point is unpatriotic and a cuck. 

 

 

Hoo boy, you are unable to grasp the concept of the most athletic kids playing soccer since they were 4 years old and building a foundation for "US Soccer".

Nobody said we are going to take Patrick Peterson and Leonard Fournette and go beat Italy retard, people are saying if Patrick Peterson and Fournette and the best athletes played soccer since they were 4 the US would have a larger base to pull players from.

There is the difference between foreigners and Americans, you try to get people to watch football, we don't try to get people to watch soccer because it sucks and most of us aren't interested in it.  

 

You're by quite a distance the biggest retard frequenting the OG right now. Literally every post you make is so dumb, it's actually quite impressive.

 

I look forward to coming back in a couple of hours and seeing some more of it. 

10/11/17 12:29 PM
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The WNBA  has better athletes


...and tougher. Bunch of flopping noodles
10/11/17 12:38 PM
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StruggleSnuggles - Neymar is set to make $54 million this year just from his contract... I'd gladly be called a pussy while in smashing all the high end pussy I want for $54m a year.

Ariaga!

Ariaga too!

 

and Boraga!!!

 

most americans have never heard of Neymar

Dude from Brazil with the mullet. boom!

10/11/17 1:00 PM
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BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -

The simple fact is most Americans do not understand football. They harp on about the "athletes" and "athleticism" but the reality is football has nothing to do with athleticism, its a game of skill and tactics. Also the tallent pool is far deeper than any american sport so you have to develop your skills from birth, its not like American Football where you can just get roided up and throw a ball about.

Pretty much. 

There is so much specialization in NFL and basketball that people start to believe these are the 'best athletes'.  Look at Steph Curry.  Is he the best athlete in the NBA? Of course not!  Tom Brady, the best athlete in the NFL?  Not by a mile!

Basketball favors tall, skinny, fast players, with long arms.  Football favors size and strength, with explosiveness an added bonus.  Soccer, well, it doesn't really matter how tall, fast, big you are if you can't run for 90 minutes, does it?  And running for 90 minutes in a soccer game is very different from running around a track for 90 minutes.   And if you are big, fast and tall, and can run for 90 minutes, can you kick a ball?  Even then you have a long way to go before you can play soccer at a decent level.

Former NFL players, linesmen, are dying before the age of 50!  My God, the fitness, the athleticism!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313476

America is literally stuck in a 1960s mentality, when it comes to soccer.  That was about when the rest of the world realized that you want to turn your best soccer players into better athletes, not your best athletes into better soccer players (an important distinction).

It reminds me of the movie Armageddon, where they decided it was easier to teach oil rig workers to become astronauts, than teaching astronauts how to work an oil rig!

10/11/17 1:01 PM
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THE US DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE WORLD CUP!?!?


Oh wait, I don't care because soccer is gay
10/11/17 1:04 PM
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BrocksSwockRanTrane_onShane -

The simple fact is most Americans do not understand football. They harp on about the "athletes" and "athleticism" but the reality is football has nothing to do with athleticism, its a game of skill and tactics. Also the tallent pool is far deeper than any american sport so you have to develop your skills from birth, its not like American Football where you can just get roided up and throw a ball about.

Pretty much. 

There is so much specialization in NFL and basketball that people start to believe these are the 'best athletes'.  Look at Steph Curry.  Is he the best athlete in the NBA? Of course not!  Tom Brady, the best athlete in the NFL?  Not by a mile!

Basketball favors tall, skinny, fast players, with long arms.  Football favors size and strength, with explosiveness an added bonus.  Soccer, well, it doesn't really matter how tall, fast, big you are if you can't run for 90 minutes, does it?  And running for 90 minutes in a soccer game is very different from running around a track for 90 minutes.   And if you are big, fast and tall, and can run for 90 minutes, can you kick a ball?  Even then you have a long way to go before you can play soccer at a decent level.

Former NFL players, linesmen, are dying before the age of 50!  My God, the fitness, the athleticism!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2313476

America is literally stuck in a 1960s mentality, when it comes to soccer.  That was about when the rest of the world realized that you want to turn your best soccer players into better athletes, not your best athletes into better soccer players (an important distinction).

It reminds me of the movie Armageddon, where they decided it was easier to teach oil rig workers to become astronauts, than teaching astronauts how to work an oil rig!

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A European soccer snob

10/11/17 1:04 PM
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I read that these players were asking for piggy back rides over some puddles. This is just unacceptable behavior for an American athlete. I'm glad they lost. 

10/11/17 1:05 PM
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Even golfers will wade into water to take a shot at a ball. 

10/11/17 1:05 PM
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We are putting all of our international chips into cricket.
10/11/17 1:07 PM
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There is no excuse for this, when I was in school(80's) there was no soccer program in my town for kids. That started around the mid 90's, so figure around that time soccer was popping up like this around the country. Millions of more kids playing every year, at an early age. Those kids are now 25-30, really the first gen of a nationwide program...a program that has proven to be an epic fucking fail. Time to retool the soccer program in the country from the ground up....again.

10/11/17 1:10 PM
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So devastated!

10/11/17 1:11 PM
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When was it alive?  I guess Women soccer is or was alive, haven't heard anything about that lately.

This. Only major sport I'm aware of where the women are more popular and better than the men

I’m gonna have to stop you at “major sport” chooch. Thread is cracking me up.  Can we all just agree that soccer just isn’t for Americans but it is a cool sport requiring talent and athleticism.  It’s just never gonna be big or even remotely cared about in America - no matter what.   I wish Iceland the best of luck at the WC - I actually enjoy watching some WC matches.

It's the most popular sport in the world, that's why I used the term "major"
10/11/17 2:11 PM
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If  a guy is dribbling, what is the easiest way to stop him?  To take him out, obviously.   If the guy dribbling tries to fight through it, he probably stays on his feet, doesn't get the call, and probably loses the ball because he isn't able to dribble away from the next defender (if you are off balance it is difficult to change the direction of the ball effectively). 

You go down, all of a sudden the ref has to decide if he will give you the call or not.

That is the origin of 'diving'.  The players are almost always fouled when they 'dive', but because other times the call is not given for a similar foul (where a player stays on his feet) people think it is somehow cheating.   It is more a problem with officiating, and determining what is a foul and what isn't. 

The irony is, if you want to encourage dribbling (i.e. talent development), you have to call a lot of fouls.  Which again makes people think the game is soft.

10/11/17 2:32 PM
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JasonJ - 

The WNBA  has better athletes


So does your mom
10/11/17 2:38 PM
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StruggleSnuggles - Neymar is set to make $54 million this year just from his contract... I'd gladly be called a pussy while in smashing all the high end pussy I want for $54m a year.

Im sure you will look good with your extra medium jersey, Faux hawk and spray tan. Chick dig that Euro-queer look.

I'd wear short shorts with a condom depot logo for that kind of money.
10/11/17 2:42 PM
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sorry for your loss friends, I was expecting to see USA team in russia
10/11/17 2:54 PM
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I have never met a single American male who aspires to do the below for a living. Not only is this acceptable, it is encouraged in the sport. Who is their right mind would ever want to wake up every day and do this as part of their profession? Especially when there are many other sports that are actually respected by the country.

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10/11/17 2:57 PM
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^Anyone caught flopping in soccer should have to stand at midfield, alone, for 2 minutes, while every screen/monitor/jumbotron in the stadium plays your flop on a loop

Fucking pussies
10/11/17 3:01 PM
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Thingading -

I have never met a single American male who aspires to do the below for a living. Not only is this acceptable, it is encouraged in the sport. Who is their right mind would ever want to wake up every day and do this as part of their profession? Especially when there are many other sports that are actually respected by the country.

 sports soccer flop hungary injury GIF

 fail soccer flop GIF

 soccer ever flop GIF

 fail soccer flop GIF

Acceptable and encouraged.  LOL.  Flopping is considered a disgrace in the football community.  Diving when you have been fouled is viewed more pragmatically, but flopping around like a fish out of water is not 'acceptable and encouraged'.

Any one makes it to the end of this video, props to them.

10/11/17 3:04 PM
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evil veiled - 
Thingading -

I have never met a single American male who aspires to do the below for a living. Not only is this acceptable, it is encouraged in the sport. Who is their right mind would ever want to wake up every day and do this as part of their profession? Especially when there are many other sports that are actually respected by the country.

 sports soccer flop hungary injury GIF

 fail soccer flop GIF

 soccer ever flop GIF

 fail soccer flop GIF

Acceptable and encouraged.  LOL.  Flopping is considered a disgrace in the football community.  Diving when you have been fouled is viewed more pragmatically, but flopping around like a fish out of water is not 'acceptable and encouraged'.

Any one makes it to the end of this video, props to them.


If flopping is not acceptable and encouraged, then why do we see so much of it?!?!?!?!

10/11/17 3:08 PM
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I love how Americans call football fans fags whilst following sports like American football where the clientele couldn't be douchier