OtherGround Forums Trump pee-pee dossier gaining steam

4/19/17 7:54 PM
12/16/11
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472CKL - Everyone knows Melania was a whore; Donnie and his family know this and do not care. I actually know a few guys married to Slav hookers. She is still a beautiful woman, and I am sure Trump has hired lots of escorts in the past.

Sofia Vergara was basically a whore for Arabs when she first moved to LA, and I doubt any of you would care, and would have no problem dating her.

lol your friends are married to Slav hookers, Trump is married to a child model since age 5 who signed her first modeling contract in Milan at age 18 and worth about $9 million when she married Trump.

Say what you want about men, but only pussy bitches talk about a mans wife because his team lost an election. Same coward ass dick garages who put on masks and throw rocks at crowds.

4/19/17 9:12 PM
3/3/14
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StankieEdgar - Maybe I'm mistaken but the dossier that Buzzfeed put out (peepee files) was bullshit and not the same dossier the FBI is going from.

Anyone know?
Nope, same dossier. Peeotus is going down.
4/19/17 9:31 PM
5/31/14
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Doesn't Carter Page look like the rapey guy in Shawshank Redemption?

4/19/17 9:33 PM
5/31/14
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ABCTT Mr Lea -
The Principal -

No doubt that the Russians tried to compromise Carter Page. There's no indication that that portion of the dossier is fabricated.

No doubt?.. So you have proof? Wait, no you don't.

No indication that that portion is fabricated?.. Except the portions that are fabricated, and the fact that the information is unverifiable.

So you're basically condemning someone based off absolutely nothing but political bias.

Pathetic

FBI arrested the agents recruiting Page. They have surveillance in which he was not unmasked. Once a FISA warrant was issued, he was unmasked. They called him an idiot. 

4/19/17 9:36 PM
10/27/05
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So to those few here believing any part of the Dossier, like Pulsar saying there's smoke...why did the MSM drop it?

Was it possibly because almost every MSM outlet went on record saying that they could not substantiate any of the claims made in it? Therefore they decided not to publish it like BuzzFeed did?

So...this brings us to a bigger point not being discussed based on partisanship. Forget for a second who the dossier is about.

We're now getting word that a FISA warrant was issued for surveillance on a US citizen based on a dossier that NO ONE can corroborate...does this bother anyone else?

Either:

A)The FBI was completely incompetent and took the info that was gathered for oppo research and never verified and accepted it as fact without due diligence and were granted a tap. Which means that they don't have to flesh out claims, and that the judges believe them (we already know a tiny minority of FISA requests are denied)

B)They knew it was BS and pushed the dossier as evidence anyway to spy on Trump's team for political reasons.

 

Most likely one of those two has to be accurate, and that scares me.

4/19/17 10:28 PM
9/20/07
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David@accu -
Pedro Navaja - 
David@accu - 

Wait a second...

Pedro are you Orcus? I think Pedro here might be our good buddy Orcus. Make the exact same thread using the exact same terms. Orcus isn't posting anymore and suddenly here is Pedro. 

Either way you're a fucking clown. The dossier has been debunked. It's not gaining anything. 


Orcus is a great poster with immense patience. I don't have the same patience, but thank you for the comparison.

You seem upset?

Perhaps a little apple juice to quench your thirst? Straight from Trump's tree.

Confirmed. 

I was wondering who this troll was. 

4/19/17 10:37 PM
11/16/08
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pulsar -

In for the apologists doing their thing!

The amount of smoke on this issue in comparison to the grief Killary got over her charity aren't even in the same ballpark, but we'll hear crickets from the usual suspects... Of course.

If her foundation had nothing to do with political favors, why is it going out of business now?

4/19/17 11:44 PM
1/1/01
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I No Kung Foo - 
pulsar -

In for the apologists doing their thing!

The amount of smoke on this issue in comparison to the grief Killary got over her charity aren't even in the same ballpark, but we'll hear crickets from the usual suspects... Of course.

If her foundation had nothing to do with political favors, why is it going out of business now?


Getting smashed in the election miight have something to do with it...

Do you really want a marketing 101 spiel? Of course the Clinton name value (with the former POTUS as well) was coercive for donations. Frankly, if donors were hoping to get some attention via their giving, more fool on them.

The whole thing is kind of dumb. If the Clintons were using their name to fleece the wealthy into giving donations, then more power to them. Better than the current POTUS who uses his name to enrich himself first and foremost.

4/19/17 11:55 PM
1/25/07
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There are already parts of it that have turned out to be true. It may be mostly fake but it is not pure fiction

 

- People are saying that Cohen never went to the country specified in the dossier. Truth is the dossier specified that he flew to another country and then drove to prague to avoid passports.

- People say it was Hillary. Truth is John McCain brought it to the government and it was originally commissioned by republicans.

 

If you are spouting those talking points consider your news sources

Edited: 4/20/17 12:03 AM
1/25/07
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"We're now getting word that a FISA warrant was issued for surveillance on a US citizen based on a dossier that NO ONE can corroborate...does this bother anyone else?"

Yes it bothers me.

But you are making an assumption that because the MSM couldn't corroborate it the government couldn't. They had to have corroborated parts of it for the court to take it seriously.

 

If your assumption that no corroboration ocurred is accurate then I'm sharpening the pitchforks and lighting the torches too 

4/20/17 12:11 AM
10/27/05
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Thelonious - 

There are already parts of it that have turned out to be true. It may be mostly fake but it is not pure fiction

 

- People are saying that Cohen never went to the country specified in the dossier. Truth is the dossier specified that he flew to another country and then drove to prague to avoid passports.

- People say it was Hillary. Truth is John McCain brought it to the government and it was originally commissioned by republicans.

 

If you are spouting those talking points consider your news sources


IIRC the anti trump republicans hired the former MI-6 agent for the opposition research, couldn't corroborate it and/or thought it was too salacious to use so they turned it down. Then HRC commissioned it, got the same info, and again refused to use it.

It was making it's rounds among journalists for months and someone gave it to McCain who handed it over to the FBI. It sounds like the FBI already had it though.

 

Again no one in the MSM who has it out for Trump was able to corroborate anything of substance because if they had the story never would have died.

That's where we are. What seems to be a largely debunked dossier with no real substantiated evidence that's damning was used to justify a FISA wiretap on a US citizen.

Clearly we're left with two options. Rank incompetence or using false information/unsubstantiated info to wire tap an American.

Neither looks good. However the same media who eventually conceded they didn't publish the dossier because they couldn't prove it (as in NO media org could, not one) are now glossing over that fact when they blurb about it being used to get the FISA warrant.

4/20/17 12:28 AM
4/24/07
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pulsar - 
I No Kung Foo - 
pulsar -

In for the apologists doing their thing!

The amount of smoke on this issue in comparison to the grief Killary got over her charity aren't even in the same ballpark, but we'll hear crickets from the usual suspects... Of course.

If her foundation had nothing to do with political favors, why is it going out of business now?


Getting smashed in the election miight have something to do with it...

Do you really want a marketing 101 spiel? Of course the Clinton name value (with the former POTUS as well) was coercive for donations. Frankly, if donors were hoping to get some attention via their giving, more fool on them.

The whole thing is kind of dumb. If the Clintons were using their name to fleece the wealthy into giving donations, then more power to them. Better than the current POTUS who uses his name to enrich himself first and foremost.


How does getting smashed in the election effect people donating to the chairity? Suddenly the chairities aren't worth donating to because she lost? LMAO!!! Good try but that was the worst excuse I have ever heard.

4/20/17 12:37 AM
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David@accu -
pulsar - 
I No Kung Foo - 
pulsar -

In for the apologists doing their thing!

The amount of smoke on this issue in comparison to the grief Killary got over her charity aren't even in the same ballpark, but we'll hear crickets from the usual suspects... Of course.

If her foundation had nothing to do with political favors, why is it going out of business now?


Getting smashed in the election miight have something to do with it...

Do you really want a marketing 101 spiel? Of course the Clinton name value (with the former POTUS as well) was coercive for donations. Frankly, if donors were hoping to get some attention via their giving, more fool on them.

The whole thing is kind of dumb. If the Clintons were using their name to fleece the wealthy into giving donations, then more power to them. Better than the current POTUS who uses his name to enrich himself first and foremost.


How does getting smashed in the election effect people donating to the chairity? Suddenly the chairities aren't worth donating to because she lost? LMAO!!! Good try but that was the worst excuse I have ever heard.

Smashed. In the biggest electoral college victory in the history of the world. 

Edited: 4/20/17 1:14 AM
1/25/07
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The BBC was able to corroroborate something from it, last month iirc. But I don't think the media is a good barometer, I would trust the FBI investigation over journalists. If the FBI corroborated the dossier then the FISA warrant makes sense as does their continued use of it.

 

I'm going to be pissed either way lol. The reason that I have changed my tune on the dossier is that it has become increasingly more likely to me that a few people abused power (trump's) then many people abused power (journalists, FISA court, fbi etc)

 

There is no middle ground anymore. If this was all just political theater heads need to roll. 

4/20/17 1:16 AM
1/1/01
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David@accu - 
pulsar - 
I No Kung Foo - 
pulsar -

In for the apologists doing their thing!

The amount of smoke on this issue in comparison to the grief Killary got over her charity aren't even in the same ballpark, but we'll hear crickets from the usual suspects... Of course.

If her foundation had nothing to do with political favors, why is it going out of business now?


Getting smashed in the election miight have something to do with it...

Do you really want a marketing 101 spiel? Of course the Clinton name value (with the former POTUS as well) was coercive for donations. Frankly, if donors were hoping to get some attention via their giving, more fool on them.

The whole thing is kind of dumb. If the Clintons were using their name to fleece the wealthy into giving donations, then more power to them. Better than the current POTUS who uses his name to enrich himself first and foremost.


How does getting smashed in the election effect people donating to the chairity? Suddenly the chairities aren't worth donating to because she lost? LMAO!!! Good try but that was the worst excuse I have ever heard.


The election pyschologically ruined her - I think that's quite obvious. I would think the collateral of losing motivation to carry on with the foundation would be among the smaller things that have been lost or damaged.

 

4/20/17 1:17 AM
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Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean the intelligence community hasn't corroborated the dossier. 

4/20/17 3:10 AM
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Government Cheese - 

Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean the intelligence community hasn't corroborated the dossier. 


Sure. The left wing media that's out to get Trump and has been leaking like the titanic didn't get anything showing it had credibility and couldn't corroborate any thing that was damning.

All that happened, but the FBI has the documents!

4/20/17 3:10 AM
9/8/02
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Thage - 
Thelonious - 

There are already parts of it that have turned out to be true. It may be mostly fake but it is not pure fiction

 

- People are saying that Cohen never went to the country specified in the dossier. Truth is the dossier specified that he flew to another country and then drove to prague to avoid passports.

- People say it was Hillary. Truth is John McCain brought it to the government and it was originally commissioned by republicans.

 

If you are spouting those talking points consider your news sources


IIRC the anti trump republicans hired the former MI-6 agent for the opposition research, couldn't corroborate it and/or thought it was too salacious to use so they turned it down. Then HRC commissioned it, got the same info, and again refused to use it.

It was making it's rounds among journalists for months and someone gave it to McCain who handed it over to the FBI. It sounds like the FBI already had it though.

 

Again no one in the MSM who has it out for Trump was able to corroborate anything of substance because if they had the story never would have died.

That's where we are. What seems to be a largely debunked dossier with no real substantiated evidence that's damning was used to justify a FISA wiretap on a US citizen.

Clearly we're left with two options. Rank incompetence or using false information/unsubstantiated info to wire tap an American.

Neither looks good. However the same media who eventually conceded they didn't publish the dossier because they couldn't prove it (as in NO media org could, not one) are now glossing over that fact when they blurb about it being used to get the FISA warrant.


This is accurate.
4/20/17 3:56 AM
9/23/07
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LOL why would anyone care if trump likes golden showers?


Bill clinton is a cosby level rapist.
4/20/17 6:42 AM
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No it isn't
4/20/17 8:04 AM
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Thage -
Government Cheese - 

Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean the intelligence community hasn't corroborated the dossier. 


Sure. The left wing media that's out to get Trump and has been leaking like the titanic didn't get anything showing it had credibility and couldn't corroborate any thing that was damning.

All that happened, but the FBI has the documents!

If you want to use the media as part of your argument, then parts of it have been corroborated. Leaked reports have stated that the intelligence community has validated some of it's claims...namely the Trump campaign staff that spoke to Russian officials. Hasn't validated the pee pee parts or ties to Russian mob. 

4/20/17 8:05 AM
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Brockback Mountain - LOL why would anyone care if trump likes golden showers?


Bill clinton is a cosby level rapist.

That part is just funny. The other parts are what's concerning. 

4/20/17 8:12 AM
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trobinson21 -
472CKL - Everyone knows Melania was a whore; Donnie and his family know this and do not care. I actually know a few guys married to Slav hookers. She is still a beautiful woman, and I am sure Trump has hired lots of escorts in the past.

Sofia Vergara was basically a whore for Arabs when she first moved to LA, and I doubt any of you would care, and would have no problem dating her.

lol your friends are married to Slav hookers, Trump is married to a child model since age 5 who signed her first modeling contract in Milan at age 18 and worth about $9 million when she married Trump.

Say what you want about men, but only pussy bitches talk about a mans wife because his team lost an election. Same coward ass dick garages who put on masks and throw rocks at crowds.

I agree with you that it's low class to go after Melania. But I hope you were just as incensed when Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton were frequent punching bags of the right when their husbands were in office.
4/20/17 9:25 AM
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THEY HAVE THE DOCU-SSIER!

#MUH-RUSSIA-TRUTH
4/20/17 9:35 AM
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mostofyou -
Bick Koxer -
mostofyou -
Bick Koxer -

I believe the dossier but don't think it compromises him.  Dude likes getting peed on, no biggie.  Everybody has a vice.  Trump doesn't drink, do drugs or gamble.  His vice is pee.  Who cares?

Can't believe there's a bigger retard in here than op

 

What is so unbelievable about a man who likes to get peed on?  You need to get out more, prude.

i love getting peed on faggot

water + diet coke + shit your shaved cunt on my face and go

the dossier however was pure fiction

Lol well said.

so if the golden shower part is ok then what is so retardedly unbelievable?

1) rich American businessman with a taste for eastern euro poontang enjoys a couple Russian hookers in Moscow?

2) Russia gathers intel on visiting foreign billionaires?