"(there isnt a sport which has 100% let it all hang out anyhow but in MMA, seems the majority of fans demand it)."
To be fair, the sport's roots are no time limit fights where you had to submit or KO your opponent, otherwise you didn't win.
Even now, since the goal of the match is still to KO or submit your opponent, it's understandable to see a failure to do so as not a true win.
I prefer kos's and subs too, I think the comparison to no time limit is also unfair....to be fair and I don't think you have to finish someone in order to consider yourself the true victor...Cain didn't finish jds right? In judo, the goal is still ippon but its just not feasible to get it all the time and everyone in judo knows that. In BJJ, the goal is still a sub but even Marcelo can't do it all the time....
Yes, but I think much of the time (not referring to this fight since I didn't see it), it's pretty apparent when a guy is really going for a finish and when he isn't.
Even in your example of how you can't always "let it all hang out", one could say well, if you're trying to finish and you're not getting anywhere, don't you kind of HAVE to let it all hang out? In other words, how are you increasing your effort to get the finish if your more conservative approach does not appear to be getting you there? Can you really say that a guy who doesn't ramp up his aggression and redouble his finishing efforts is actually trying to finish?
Some of this is devil's advocate, but I think it's mostly true as well. I don't blame guys for holding something back so that they don't leave an opening for an opponent or don't gas themselves out or whatever, but let's call a a spade a spade. Many guys would be happy to get a finish but aren't going to put themselves out there trying to get one, and are just as happy with the decision win (no matter how much they say they "want a knockout").
Lentz was consistently trying to improve position, and got all sorts of them, and was pounding as much as he could given the position imo.
Now here is where the "all hang out" stuff, like, should you be expected to give up mount and just wail away to go for the finish even though its likely you might get 1 decent shot maybe but that the guy will cover up and hip escape and buck you off? That's letting it all hang out.
Or just brawl and go for the kill and leave yourself open ala Wand/Leben? Thats def letting it all hang.
"In other words, how are you increasing your effort to get the finish if your more conservative approach does not appear to be getting you there? Can you really say that a guy who doesn't ramp up his aggression and redouble his finishing efforts is actually trying to finish?"
You know you can be TRYING to pass guard or TRYING to set up a sub but simply being thwarted at doing so. I think this is something most people miss. Like in every fight, GSP is trying to do that....but i do agree where he is being thwarted in the submission game, he could amp up his GNP to soften/open/damage his opponent more. Thing is, against Condit for example, he was giving GSP as good as he was getting (if not more) in reverse GNP and kept GSP busy with defending sweeps and stuff too...im sure you saw that....so often 2 guys are just in a battle where neither is able to get a distinct advantage or dominate the other, but though both are TRYING.