UnderGround Forums Holloway Striking Looks Awful

12/6/17 2:09 PM
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But it's not, his striking is technical and aggressive as fuck. Exciting to watch but not aesthetically pleasing. Sort of like watching Joe Calzaghe box. It's excellent boxing but it constantly looks like it shouldn't be working.
12/6/17 4:30 PM
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I don’t think it’s awful it’s just not flashy. He’s very technical with his feet. Some of the best and most subtle footwork in MMA.

12/6/17 5:34 PM
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MR31 -

You mentioned him, so now I'm popping in Calzaghe vs Left Hook Lacy. That was a great fight as far as one sided beatbeatdowns go! Thanks for the tip Hollowanus

Haha, Hollowed my anus twice now apparently.
12/6/17 5:35 PM
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IronWill -

I don’t think it’s awful it’s just not flashy. He’s very technical with his feet. Some of the best and most subtle footwork in MMA.

No its not awful, his striking is fucking great! I just said it LOOKS awful. It's exciting and technical but I dunno, just not a lot of finesse to it.
12/6/17 5:43 PM
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MaxHollowedMyAnus -
IronWill -

I don’t think it’s awful it’s just not flashy. He’s very technical with his feet. Some of the best and most subtle footwork in MMA.

No its not awful, his striking is fucking great! I just said it LOOKS awful. It's exciting and technical but I dunno, just not a lot of finesse to it.

its faster as you think, popopopopop

12/6/17 5:45 PM
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Calzaghe is a terrible example for someone whose striking looks bad. Sure it's a bit slappy but it definitely doesn't look anywhere near what would be classed as "bad"
12/6/17 5:54 PM
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On Luke Thomas's podcast Monday morning analyst he spoke at great length on how elite his striking strategy for the two aldo fights.he said he would go corcle one way for a while then flip it then circle the other way and I think he said overload aldos hips.and his bodyshots.

12/6/17 6:40 PM
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EKPOGI -

On Luke Thomas's podcast Monday morning analyst he spoke at great length on how elite his striking strategy for the two aldo fights.he said he would go corcle one way for a while then flip it then circle the other way and I think he said overload aldos hips.and his bodyshots.

That sounds like a quality listen. Can you link?
12/6/17 7:00 PM
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MaxHollowedMyAnus -
EKPOGI -

On Luke Thomas's podcast Monday morning analyst he spoke at great length on how elite his striking strategy for the two aldo fights.he said he would go corcle one way for a while then flip it then circle the other way and I think he said overload aldos hips.and his bodyshots.

That sounds like a quality listen. Can you link?

 

12/6/17 8:46 PM
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Nick is the same way, those slapping slow punches don't look like they would hurt anyone yet it works.
Edited: 12/6/17 8:47 PM
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His striking is very effective in a Diaz-esque sort of way. Reminds me of Strikeforce-era Nick.

12/6/17 9:03 PM
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Short reach is all
12/6/17 9:06 PM
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His striking reminds me allot of the Diaz Bros. I would say not a bad pair to imitate as far as boxing goes.
12/6/17 9:07 PM
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jasperb - Nick is the same way, those slapping slow punches don't look like they would hurt anyone yet it works.
I think in a boxing match it wouldn't. But getting hit repeatedly with tiny gloves, no matter how hard, will eventually wear a guy down.
12/6/17 9:31 PM
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MMA striking game- 9/10

Boxing game if this was boxing 6/10

 

People forget that this isn't boxing. There is actually a huge difference between 4oz and 8oz gloves. Not just a difference in defense but mainly striking. Your stance, style, strikes have to match your genetics and consciously/subconsciously fight a real fight to win. 

 

Conor is however on a different level then anyone in MMA with striking. 

12/7/17 12:29 AM
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Acidic -

MMA striking game- 9/10

Boxing game if this was boxing 6/10

 

People forget that this isn't boxing. There is actually a huge difference between 4oz and 8oz gloves. Not just a difference in defense but mainly striking. Your stance, style, strikes have to match your genetics and consciously/subconsciously fight a real fight to win. 

 

Conor is however on a different level then anyone in MMA with striking. 

Thanks tips

12/7/17 6:43 AM
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He has an iron chin and can slip punches in the pocket whic allows him to return fire from an ideal position.

Hes also 25 and doesnt have as many miles on him as his opponents. In 10 yrs some 25 yr

old we havent heard of will do to him what he did to Aldo. Its the way the game goes...

12/7/17 8:44 PM
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ChomskyBlackBelt -
MaxHollowedMyAnus - But it's not, his striking is technical and aggressive as fuck. Exciting to watch but not aesthetically pleasing. Sort of like watching Joe Calzaghe box. It's excellent boxing but it constantly looks like it shouldn't be working.

That’s actually a really good comparison.

It is like watching Calzaghe! Haha!

Cheers man ^^
12/8/17 9:11 AM
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Giventofly99 -

He has an iron chin and can slip punches in the pocket whic allows him to return fire from an ideal position.

Hes also 25 and doesnt have as many miles on him as his opponents. In 10 yrs some 25 yr

old we havent heard of will do to him what he did to Aldo. Its the way the game goes...

It's insane to consider Aldo's first fight came when he was 18, about a decade and a half ago. Age is so much less important than mileage or as some pundits like to say your physiologic age. Aldo's been through a lot and was the best for a long time. 

Be interesting to see if Holloway can carve out his own GOAT legend with a few more wins. 

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jasperb - Nick is the same way, those slapping slow punches don't look like they would hurt anyone yet it works.

Nick v Daley was one of the best examples of that. Nick looks like he's being mauled and Daley seems like he's laughing off the shots, but Nick just wont drop and suddenly Daley starts to wilt and collapse. 

 

Edit: Just won't stop, he most certainly dropped in that fight. 

12/8/17 9:19 AM
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Acidic -

MMA striking game- 9/10

Boxing game if this was boxing 6/10

 

People forget that this isn't boxing. There is actually a huge difference between 4oz and 8oz gloves. Not just a difference in defense but mainly striking. Your stance, style, strikes have to match your genetics and consciously/subconsciously fight a real fight to win. 

 

Conor is however on a different level then anyone in MMA with striking. 

Except for Nate Diaz who he can't finish. Max Holloway who he can't finish. A real boxer. But yeah, he's def on another level.

12/8/17 9:40 AM
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I'm sure the world champion is upset about KKM's evaluation. If he will listen to the keyboard warrior's advice he has a chance to be somebody.

Maybe you should offer your expertise - fly to Hawaii and improve his striking so it "looks" good.

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12/8/17 9:43 AM
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Acidic - 

MMA striking game- 9/10

Boxing game if this was boxing 6/10

 

People forget that this isn't boxing. There is actually a huge difference between 4oz and 8oz gloves. Not just a difference in defense but mainly striking. Your stance, style, strikes have to match your genetics and consciously/subconsciously fight a real fight to win. 

 

Conor is however on a different level then anyone in MMA with striking. 


Pretty sure that against Nate he abandoned his striking for a take down because he couldnt hang with him anymore.

But yeah... he's on a different level.
12/8/17 11:25 AM
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ausgepicht - I'm sure the world champion is upset about KKM's evaluation. If he will listen to the keyboard warrior's advice he has a chance to be somebody.

Maybe you should offer your expertise - fly to Hawaii and improve his striking so it "looks" good.

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Reading comprehension mate. Learn it. His striking is flawless and he's a genius at striking in the context of MMA. He's also exciting and finishes fights.

I just said it's not aesthetically pleasing. Means fuck all I'm just saying it LOOKS like it shouldn't work but it does. Like Joe Calzaghe.

GTFO here with that member since shit.
12/8/17 12:55 PM
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Acidic -

MMA striking game- 9/10

Boxing game if this was boxing 6/10

 

People forget that this isn't boxing. There is actually a huge difference between 4oz and 8oz gloves. Not just a difference in defense but mainly striking. Your stance, style, strikes have to match your genetics and consciously/subconsciously fight a real fight to win. 

 

Conor is however on a different level then anyone in MMA with striking. 

This