UnderGround Forums Is Dolce a bro-scientist?

3/14/14 7:26 PM
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Snake oil salesman? Or legit? I know Johnny likes to eat that Texas BBQ, dip Grizzly, and pound some beers on the lake when he isn't fighting...but fuck...Dolce is paid to get this motherfucker to 170 at weigh-ins. Is Hendricks the first Dolce fighter to miss weight? I honestly cant remember.
3/14/14 7:29 PM
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Dolce is legit. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:30 PM
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He's not a scientist. However, his success success over the years speaks for itself. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:30 PM
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He made weight, bro; science.

3/14/14 7:30 PM
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There must be an echo in here tonight tonight. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:34 PM
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dhughes - There must be an echo in here tonight tonight. Phone Post 3.0

LOL, my bad guys. I'm already 7 beers into the night because of these fucking conference games on TV. I wasn't trying to dog Dolce...just fucking around mostly to see what people's opinions would be.
3/14/14 7:42 PM
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He's legit Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:56 PM
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dhughes - He's not a scientist. However, his success success over the years speaks for itself. Phone Post 3.0
His success has had success.

Now that's successful. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:58 PM
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Read his book, cant speak on his weight cutting part but the diet stuff looked super stadard. High protien and cut calories. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 7:59 PM
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They had a lighter scale at the weigh ins, happens all the time in high school wrestling weigh ins but i would think at this level they would check there scales to the one being used ahead of time. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 8:07 PM
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Well, his only credentials are his athletes, as he has little or no education in the field. The fact that Hendricks didn't make weight at first attempt reflects poorly on him as everytime someone questions his knowledge he points to the fact that his athletes always makes weight.

I won't call him a broscientist, but I can understand that one would. He ofte cite media articles as "science" on his podcast and sometimes makes weird statements which I think is more due to his passion about what he does more than actual lack of knowledge. He also likes to exaggerate, particularly numbers. He's done "hundreds of thousands of this" and recommends "thousands and thousands of that".

I consider him an authority on coaching with a knack for diet, but in my eyes he's not a nutritional guru by any means. He will however have a real scientist with a real knack for diet on his podcast and that will be pretty entertaining as their views differ greatly.

3/14/14 8:07 PM
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Capnsavem - 
dhughes - He's not a scientist. However, his success success over the years speaks for itself. Phone Post 3.0
His success has had success.

Now that's successful. Phone Post 3.0

Agreed.
3/14/14 8:09 PM
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Caught_clean - Read his book, cant speak on his weight cutting part but the diet stuff looked super stadard. High protien and cut calories. Phone Post 3.0
He's not a count calories guy. If you listen to his podcasts he (at least used to) end every one of them with "Don't count calories, make calories count." Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 8:10 PM
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Samoa - 
Caught_clean - Read his book, cant speak on his weight cutting part but the diet stuff looked super stadard. High protien and cut calories. Phone Post 3.0
He's not a count calories guy. If you listen to his podcasts he (at least used to) end every one of them with "Don't count calories, make calories count." Phone Post 3.0

He still does.

 

3/14/14 8:21 PM
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In UFC 171 Fight Journal: Johny Hendricks you can see part of the weight cut. Dolce explains part of the process. He also reveals his own "less than 7 percent bodyfat physique".

3/14/14 8:28 PM
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Losing weight isn't complicated.

He's just a brand name trying to get exposure. Wouldn't suprise me if he paid the big name fighters to tell everyone Dolce is a genius. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 8:31 PM
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What's the definition of scientist? That's the opposite of what he is Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 9:00 PM
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Mr Sizzzz - What's the definition of scientist? That's the opposite of what he is Phone Post 3.0

He's a church-goer now on top of everything else!? :)
3/14/14 9:22 PM
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WestCoastKid - Lloyd Irvin of dieting on TRT imo

What are his prerequisite qualifications that make him qualified?

In fairness his results speak better than any many 'qualifications'
3/14/14 9:36 PM
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Milk Machine - They had a lighter scale at the weigh ins, happens all the time in high school wrestling weigh ins but i would think at this level they would check there scales to the one being used ahead of time. Phone Post 3.0
That's what the 1lb discretion is for.

You are supposed to make 170lb and the 171lb limit is to account for potential scale inaccuracy.

So there's no excuse. Phone Post 3.0
3/14/14 9:40 PM
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Blunderhooks - 
Milk Machine - They had a lighter scale at the weigh ins, happens all the time in high school wrestling weigh ins but i would think at this level they would check there scales to the one being used ahead of time. Phone Post 3.0
That's what the 1lb discretion is for.

You are supposed to make 170lb and the 171lb limit is to account for potential scale inaccuracy.

So there's no excuse. Phone Post 3.0

The +1 lb over the limit discretion doesn't exist for title fights, however. You have to be EXACTLY on or under.
3/14/14 10:04 PM
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I've heard some of the stuff on podcasts and he's not immune to saying some stupid shit
3/14/14 10:14 PM
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esque - 
Samoa - 
Caught_clean - Read his book, cant speak on his weight cutting part but the diet stuff looked super stadard. High protien and cut calories. Phone Post 3.0
He's not a count calories guy. If you listen to his podcasts he (at least used to) end every one of them with "Don't count calories, make calories count." Phone Post 3.0

He still does.

 


This, it still goes over hitting your calorie cap for the day to lose x amount of weight. Its the only way to lose real weight, and his book was nothing revolutionary to me, good diet plans but a lot of common knowledge.
3/14/14 10:21 PM
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Errr what I meant was it absolutely make you count calories.
3/14/14 10:30 PM
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Caught_clean - 
esque - 
Samoa - 
Caught_clean - Read his book, cant speak on his weight cutting part but the diet stuff looked super stadard. High protien and cut calories. Phone Post 3.0
He's not a count calories guy. If you listen to his podcasts he (at least used to) end every one of them with "Don't count calories, make calories count." Phone Post 3.0

He still does.

 


This, it still goes over hitting your calorie cap for the day to lose x amount of weight. Its the only way to lose real weight, and his book was nothing revolutionary to me, good diet plans but a lot of common knowledge.

He repeatedly says his information is common knowledge, and its based on eating earth grown nutrients which is obviously common knowledge to anyone that knows anything about healthy eating. Also your "thoughts" on having to burn more calories then you eat as the only real way to lose weight is just idiotic. I eat 6 meals a day and only do a 45 minute ufc fit workout a day, have lost 25 pounds of fat while adding lean muscle in the last 4 months.