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7 days ago
10/4/15
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A certified CAN

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited: 7 days ago
10/4/15
Posts: 1179

 

7 days ago
9/1/09
Posts: 5597

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

7 days ago
1/26/08
Posts: 15570
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.

7 days ago
2/15/06
Posts: 16003
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


He beat the two best UFC HWs of the Pride era in the US. He solidified his greatness. He started losing later
7 days ago
10/6/14
Posts: 10610
Undefeated at hw for 10 years is a feat that will never be repeated. The dude was an animal and hw goat. You can say what you want about peds or padded record or whatever and it is still ridiculous what he accomplished. So cool it with the can talk. He just got old is all.
7 days ago
1/30/03
Posts: 20622
Man, trolls don't even try anymore.

These are sad days.
6 days ago
6/28/10
Posts: 22963
Animal Chin - Man, trolls don't even try anymore.

These are sad days.

 

6 days ago
10/4/15
Posts: 1183

I remember when Rogan pontificated that it was possible he may have used PED's in Pride and the underground, mma sites, lost their fucking minds...

 

 

Fast forward to the reality since then of discovering what the Russians have been up to regarding PED's, and USADA pretty much busting anyone from that era, and watching the super bodies just drop right off

 

 

Everyone getting put out to pasture from the UFC taking this guy on short notice, because theres no threat

 

 

NO THREAT

 

Remember when Vadim thought he was bigger than the offer the UFC game him?

Has he won a fight since turning down the Brock fight millions?

 

I bet he finishes his Carreer in Japan, prize money mostly comprized of free Ramen, and a complimentary sweater dry clean

 

And for the record, he wears that sweater because he turned down those UFC millions and ugly sweaters come cheap 

6 days ago
2/12/17
Posts: 1321
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
6 days ago
4/19/17
Posts: 1355
RenzoStudent2004 -
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
Fedor is not even top 10 consideration anymore for GOAT.....Nog isn't even top 100.
6 days ago
5/11/06
Posts: 10803
PEDs were not illegal in PRIDE, it was en even playing field and up until USADA UFC was full to the brim with PEDs too, it was more of an IQ test than a drugs test, so that hardly takes away from him in anyway.
6 days ago
7/19/12
Posts: 3109
Obvious MMA noobie
6 days ago
3/5/11
Posts: 4138
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much -
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.

Yet 2 of his of his only 4 losses came against known drug users, your point is invalid

6 days ago
3/5/11
Posts: 4139
Lights Out Lurker -
RenzoStudent2004 -
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
Fedor is not even top 10 consideration anymore for GOAT.....Nog isn't even top 100.

Lol, Fedor could lose his next 10 and he would still be one of the  GOATs  you cannot take his era away, and we will not see anything like it again.. 

6 days ago
4/19/17
Posts: 1356
Bofbro -
Lights Out Lurker -
RenzoStudent2004 -
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
Fedor is not even top 10 consideration anymore for GOAT.....Nog isn't even top 100.

Lol, Fedor could lose his next 10 and he would still be one of the  GOATs  you cannot take his era away, and we will not see anything like it again.. 

The reason why won't see anything like it again....because the UFC actually makes guys fight other guys that are ranked within 10 spots of them. You don't get 5 cans in between legit contenders anymore. Also.....USADA.

If you honestly think Fedor could lose 10 more fights and still be considered a GOAT then you are ignorant. He hasn't had a legit win over a competitive fighter in almost a decade. Pretty much everything he's done for the last ten years has tarnished his legacy. Same with BJ, Anderson, etc....

Move on, these guys are not as good anymore.....and most likely Fedor has been and continues to cheat with steroids, Russian judging, can crushing, etc.
6 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 19490
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


This.

And his legacy continues to tarnish.
Edited: 5 days ago
1/24/17
Posts: 708
Bofbro -
Lights Out Lurker -
RenzoStudent2004 -
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
Fedor is not even top 10 consideration anymore for GOAT.....Nog isn't even top 100.

Lol, Fedor could lose his next 10 and he would still be one of the  GOATs  you cannot take his era away, and we will not see anything like it again.. 

If he keeps losing he's not the GOAT, and definitley not the top 5 GOAT. It's very simple. 

5 days ago
12/30/03
Posts: 21114

Fedor is already the GOAT. Dude had people legit scared when they had to fight him. Your favorite fighter watches his fights in admiration. 

5 days ago
8/17/17
Posts: 123
Lights Out Lurker -
RenzoStudent2004 -
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much - 
ThinkMMA -

Oh, you mean the guy who is always unaminaously voted 1 or 2 as GOAT?

He beat up cans in an organization that encouraged PED use, and had fixed fights. Then came to the USA and started to lose. Funny how that works.


So Nog, former UFC champ was a can? Because he beat him handily twice.

Fedor is the best fighter ever. Nog second best HW ever.

Deal with it.
Fedor is not even top 10 consideration anymore for GOAT.....Nog isn't even top 100.
Holy shit...nog not even top 100....go jump off a cliff if u really consider yourself an mma fan bro...straight up.
5 days ago
7/23/11
Posts: 654
Bad troll is bad.

I would ask for your top 10 p4p so we can all be educated.
Edited: 5 days ago
1/24/17
Posts: 711
WrestlingSucks -

Fedor is already the GOAT. Dude had people legit scared when they had to fight him. Your favorite fighter watches his fights in admiration. 

What do you mean "already" the GOAT? His losses starting from 2010 count against him, man. He was 33 when he lost to Werdum, not 43. 

And from 2006-2009, he just wasn't fighting the very best. During this time, he fought 2 top HWs and sprinkled in easy matchups.

I respect him as one of the greatest, probably top ten, for his long streak and his exciting finishes, but the GOAT? Hell no.

5 days ago
5/10/04
Posts: 14698
Fedor is the GOAT.

Someone please list all these "cans" he supposedly fought in Pride.
5 days ago
11/28/02
Posts: 912
If he isn't the greatest heavyweight then who is?
Edited: 5 days ago
1/1/01
Posts: 6477

There is NO set definition for greatest of all time. "GOAT" can mean different things to different people.

To me it doesn't mean best record of all-time. American fans are so hung-up on win/loss records. There is no single GOAT either. You'd have to go weight by weight. The GOAT welterweight would get destroyed by the GOAT heavyweight.

Then there are so many different rule-sets over history and different cages/rings. Pride fighters didn't have elbows on the ground but had to worry about getting soccer kicked.

 

Fedor is the GOAT heavyweight because at his best he would beat any other heavyweight we've EVER seen.