UnderGround Forums Kevin Iole: UFC 157 over 400K PPV buys

2/25/13 3:06 PM
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Kevin Iole ?@KevinI

Pretty confident that @UFC 157 is going to exceed 400k PPV buys, by my indicators. Could go well past.
2/25/13 3:07 PM
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Skimpy bras sell apparently. Phone Post
2/25/13 3:08 PM
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Awesome news!
2/25/13 3:11 PM
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I wonder how all the haters are gonna spin this
2/25/13 3:15 PM
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That's a home run if true. Phone Post
2/25/13 3:15 PM
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Wow amazing numbers! Phone Post
2/25/13 3:21 PM
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Awesome if true

2/25/13 3:50 PM
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Haters just got owned. Guessing they will steer clear of this thread or claim fake numbers. Phone Post
2/25/13 3:55 PM
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I dunno why anyone wouldn't accept WMMA in the UFC or them headlining a card when they're the only championship fight. I enjoyed the main event as much as I would have any other. The fact that they were women became irrelevant to me once the fight started, as they truly brought it and put on a great fight.
2/25/13 3:58 PM
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Leck Brosnar - I wonder how all the haters are gonna spin this

Ha, +1.

400k is more than twice what Edgar vs. Henderson 2 did. Awesome showing for Ronda, if true. Now let's see if they can sustain interest in her beyond novelty value...
2/25/13 3:59 PM
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Frank Gallagher - 
RampageFitsLikeAGlove -
Leck Brosnar - I wonder how all the haters are gonna spin this

LOL at you thinking it was because of WMMA.  The UFC sells because it's the UFC.  If they put that much promotion into Leonard Garcia vs Clay Guida as a main event, it would sell. 

Good exposure for WMMA and Ronda though.

Bad spin Phone Post

Exactly.

Fucking people like that make me sick, you were fucking wrong, be a man and admit it, sack up.
2/25/13 4:04 PM
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Does anyone know for sure if Ronda gets a PPV cut? Phone Post
2/25/13 4:09 PM
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Willin - Does anyone know for sure if Ronda gets a PPV cut? Phone Post
Would not be surprised if she does. Phone Post
2/25/13 4:14 PM
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Meltzer said the same thing. Pretty sure Iole's indicator is simply echoing Meltzer.

Great news if true.
2/25/13 4:19 PM
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I'll spin it.

Women's MMA didn't do 400k buys, Rhonda Rousey did 400k buys.

The criticism of WMMA isn't about the appeal of a single fight or fighter, it's about it's depth and long term appeal.

Women's boxing had mainstream appeal with Laila Ali. She was the beginning, and end of women's boxing with the mainstream. I'm not saying Rousey is the same with MMA, I'm just saying there is a very good chance she is.

I have no problem with the UFC cashing in on her, but they would be foolish to put any eggs in the WMMA basket past Rhonda Rousey.
2/25/13 4:21 PM
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dangerboy12 - I'll spin it.

Women's MMA didn't do 400k buys, Rhonda Rousey did 400k buys.

The criticism of WMMA isn't about the appeal of a single fight or fighter, it's about it's depth and long term appeal.

Women's boxing had mainstream appeal with Laila Ali. She was the beginning, and end of women's boxing with the mainstream. I'm not saying Rousey is the same with MMA, I'm just saying there is a very good chance she is.

I have no problem with the UFC cashing in on her, but they would be foolish to put any eggs in the WMMA basket past Rhonda Rousey.
Gina drew quite a crowd on CBS/show time. Where does she fit in? Phone Post
2/25/13 4:21 PM
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damnyouwoman14 - 
Willin - Does anyone know for sure if Ronda gets a PPV cut? Phone Post
Would not be surprised if she does. Phone Post

She does.

2/25/13 4:22 PM
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Just from watching normal TV I didn't think it was promoted more than any other event. I had to remind my wife that my Saturday was planned out. She usually knows event dates better than me. Phone Post
2/25/13 4:26 PM
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What has the last 10 ppv's done ? Jud curious Phone Post
2/25/13 4:27 PM
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RampageFitsLikeAGlove - 

And I'm not hating on WMMA.  I was one of the $400K that bought the event.  But do you disagree that it was a heavily promoted event and do you disagree that many buy the UFC because it's the UFC?  Do you think Ronda would have the same following if she headlined a WSOF event?


How much did Hendo draw when he fought in Strikeforce?
2/25/13 4:28 PM
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Pat Giles - 
dangerboy12 - I'll spin it.

Women's MMA didn't do 400k buys, Rhonda Rousey did 400k buys.

The criticism of WMMA isn't about the appeal of a single fight or fighter, it's about it's depth and long term appeal.

Women's boxing had mainstream appeal with Laila Ali. She was the beginning, and end of women's boxing with the mainstream. I'm not saying Rousey is the same with MMA, I'm just saying there is a very good chance she is.

I have no problem with the UFC cashing in on her, but they would be foolish to put any eggs in the WMMA basket past Rhonda Rousey.
Gina drew quite a crowd on CBS/show time. Where does she fit in? Phone Post

Same category. What happened to WMMA when she lost? No one cared about Cyborg.
2/25/13 4:29 PM
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Willin -  Does anyone know for sure if Ronda gets a PPV cut? Phone Post

Dana insinuated that she did during the post-fight presser.

2/25/13 4:32 PM
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If she gets a ppv cut she just earned her first million$ paycheck.

Even if he just gave her 2$ a buy, that's 800k,  and you know she got more than that.

2/25/13 4:32 PM
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dangerboy12 - I'll spin it.

Women's MMA didn't do 400k buys, Rhonda Rousey did 400k buys.

The criticism of WMMA isn't about the appeal of a single fight or fighter, it's about it's depth and long term appeal.

Women's boxing had mainstream appeal with Laila Ali. She was the beginning, and end of women's boxing with the mainstream. I'm not saying Rousey is the same with MMA, I'm just saying there is a very good chance she is.

I have no problem with the UFC cashing in on her, but they would be foolish to put any eggs in the WMMA basket past Rhonda Rousey.

How many male MMA fighters are draws? Maybe half a dozen out of tens of thousands of active fighters around the world. One legit draw is great for the development of WMMA.

2/25/13 4:35 PM
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ShoreBreaker420 -  What has the last 10 ppv's done ? Jud curious Phone Post

05/28/2011 UFC 130 Rampage vs. Hamill 325,000
06/11/2011 UFC 131 Dos Santos vs. Carwin 330,000
07/02/2011 UFC 132 Cruz vs. Faber 320,000
08/06/2011 UFC 133 Evans vs. Ortiz 310,000
08/27/2011 UFC 134 Silva vs. Okami 335,000
09/24/2011 UFC 135 Jones vs. Rampage 520,000
10/08/2011 UFC 136 Edgar vs. Maynard III 225,000
10/29/2011 UFC 137 Penn vs. Diaz 280,000
11/19/2011 UFC 139 Henderson vs. Rua 290,000
12/10/2011 UFC 140 Jones vs. Machida 480,000
12/31/2011 UFC 141 Lesnar vs. Overeem 535,000
01/14/2012 UFC 142 Aldo vs Mendes 215,000
02/04/2012 UFC 143 Condit vs. Diaz 400,000
02/26/2012 UFC 144 Edgar vs. Henderson 325,000
04/21/2012 UFC 145 Jones vs. Evans 700,000
05/26/2012 UFC 146 Dos Santos vs. Mir 560,000
06/23/2012 UFC 147 Silva vs. Franklin II 140,000
07/07/2012 UFC 148 Silva vs. Sonnen II 925,000
07/21/2012 UFC 149 Faber vs. Barao 230,000
08/11/2012 UFC 150 Henderson v. Edgar II 190,000
09/01/2012 UFC 151 Jones vs. Henderson Canceled
09/22/2012 UFC 152 Jones vs. Belfort 450,000
10/13/2012 UFC 153 Silva vs. Bonnar 410,000
11/17/2012 UFC 154 GSP vs. Condit 700,000
12/29/2012 UFC 155 JDS vs. Velasquez II 590,000