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3/21/13 9:37 AM
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Lindland: MMA was pure before money, fame, & power

 
 
3/21/13 11:51 AM
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"pure"? No.

Just more about the best way to win a fight.

UFC is an entertainment product, not anything tied to a mystical martial art notion of honing your craft. It's business, and by strict business definitions MMA is better now than it ever was.

3/21/13 12:06 PM
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KingofBJJ - MMA was pure when it was still single day tournaments.

Agreed

I still love modern MMA, but there was something visceral about those early events that you don't get in the current version.
3/21/13 12:09 PM
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Its prize fighting now and it was prize fighting back then albeit for less money. If you want to be part of something pure then get in to regular martial arts.
3/21/13 12:24 PM
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I'm not used to seeing Lindland conscious Phone Post
3/21/13 1:30 PM
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I remember back when Matt Lindland was considered boring and criticized for being too conservative, much like Pat Miletich and Tim Sylvia, but to a greater degree. Yet all of those guys were better finishers than the conservative fighters of today. There's even talk Lindland was basically kicked out of the org for it. Lindland finished in 44% of his UFC wins, Miletch 63%, and Sylvia 64% compared to GSP's 39% and Fitch's 29%. Looking at all of their wins in and outside the UFC, the discrepancy grows even more. Lindland wouldn't be considered such a conservative fighter by today's standards, but the sport has become too distorted and focused too much on points. Not the biggest fan of Lindland but he has my respect as a fighter.
3/21/13 1:33 PM
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A cheat talking about purity? Love it.

3/21/13 1:34 PM
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Pure shit, IMHO. Phone Post
3/21/13 1:34 PM
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Altofsky -

A cheat talking about purity? Love it.

And this Phone Post
3/21/13 1:34 PM
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Lindland was old school and an under appreciated fighter in his time. I enjoy his interviews and his trash talk against Baroni/JT taylor was the stuff of legend.

I still say he beat Rampage in WEC
3/21/13 1:37 PM
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Grantman - Lindland was old school and an under appreciated fighter in his time. I enjoy his interviews and his trash talk against Baroni/JT taylor was the stuff of legend.

I still say he beat Rampage in WEC

I have always said the same. Rampage should have lost that fight.
3/21/13 9:52 PM
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Lindland is one-of-a-kind.
THANKS, Matt
-Jack Phone Post
3/21/13 10:50 PM
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MMA was fun and special back then, a sub-culture, but it's much better today do the high level of skill and how well rounded all the fighters are. Plus we get to see so many events for free and big PPV's. It's just cool how far things have come. Phone Post
3/21/13 11:22 PM
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I believe ZUFFA truly loves and cares for MMA/UFC as much as anybody and wants to keep the integrity and purity intact as much as possible. I also think they really do strive to keep at headed in the direction as a sport over spectacle or wacky entertainment. It was really that thinking to work with the commissions and legitimize it as much as possible that has made it so popular. It is still a business and it is still prizefighting so there will always be some decisions made that are unavoidable to keep things profitable up and running. I think some of the complaints come about it not being a sport when fighters who aren't necessarily ranked next or deserving get title shots, etc do to it being a higher selling or more popular fight. That's one of those business decisions but also having owners and matchmakers as fans decisions. For example who didn't want to see the GSP vs Diaz fight over Hendricks? Diaz didn't deserve it or earn it in reality but it was a fight that fans would much rather seen plus it sold a hell of a lot more then GSP vs Hendricks would have. I believe they get it right more then not and that's why they are so successful. Phone Post