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5/1/13 6:19 AM
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Manager: 'Nothing' for Nelson in Cormier fight

 

 Saturday night Roy Nelson knocked out Cheick Kongo, in the first. This follows a KO of Matt Mitrione in the first, and Dave Herman, in the first.

In a pre fight interview, Nelson expressed the hope that a big win over Kongo would earn him a title shot, something he was willing to wait for.

UFC President Dana White post fight that he had discussed with matchmaker Joe Silva who's next for Nelson, and they determined it would Daniel Cormier or Mark Hunt.

Cormier beat Frank Mir recently, and Hunt fights Junior dos Santos next month.

"If he wants to get to the title shot, those are the guys he deserves," White said.

Cormier agreed.

"Hey @danawhite ur right," tweeted Cormier. "I think Roy nelson and I would be a damn good fight. How about it @roynelsonmma."

However, speaking on UFC Tonight Tuesday, Ariel Helwani related  that Roy Nelson's manager Mike Kogan was going to advise his client not to take the fight against Cormier, if indeed one is offered. Kogan said a fight with Cormier makes no sense for Nelson.

Kogan had specific ideas about who he wants for his client:
•Antonio Silva, if Silva loses to UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez at UFC 160; or,
•Either the winner or loser of UFC 160’s co-main event between Junior dos Santos and Mark Hunt.

In a twist, Nelson himself said he would take a Cormer fight.

"@arielhelwani you should always come to the horse,
" tweeted Nelson. "If I have to go through DC to get my belt! I will. @mikekogan"

So who do you think would be best for Nelson to fight next? Why?

 
5/1/13 6:23 AM
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Aaaand this is why managers shouldn't comment on anything fight related.
5/1/13 6:29 AM
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Definitely don't agree with this. IMO Junior beats Hunt easily and then I see no point at all in giving Roy a fight with Junior again as I see it going the same way as before. A win against Bigfoot would be good for him but I dot think it will propel him to a title shot. Knocking out Cormier and stopping that hype train would do big things for him. Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 6:33 AM
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his manager is doing his job. protecting roy from brodor

5/1/13 6:54 AM
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I think it makes perfect sense. Like it says he has beaten Mitrione, Herman & Kongo. Give him a contender to earn his spot.

Same way Hunt has JDS now.

Hunt/JDS for next shot, winner of Corm/Roy thereafter.
5/1/13 7:12 AM
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Yeah because Cormier absolutely destroys him Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 7:35 AM
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It wasn't that long ago that Mir dominated Roy, I wouldn't mind a rematch to see where he's at Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 7:50 AM
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Yeah hes right, he has nothing for Cormier
5/1/13 7:57 AM
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NorthFromHere - Aaaand this is why managers shouldn't comment on anything fight related.
Ed Soares showed us that a long time ago. He's Bob Barker, to my Happy Gilmore.

"God daaaaaamnit, I hate that Bob Barker." Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 8:18 AM
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don't forget what jds did to nelson, if i was him i would hope they give me cormier and hunt beats jds Phone Post
5/1/13 8:21 AM
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So Cormier isn't going to LHW? Is he waiting for Jones to go to HW then? I guess I don't see why DC would fight anyone other than Cain or Jones when Dana said he could have a shot at either champion. I know he doesn't want to fight Cain so why not fight Jones like he's been saying he wants to? Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 8:44 AM
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DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 9:38 AM
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JOESONDO - DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? Phone Post 3.0
Circles don't have a "back". Phone Post 3.0
5/1/13 9:40 AM
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So I take it Cormier isn't going to LHW...

5/1/13 9:57 AM
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Brigham - So Cormier isn't going to LHW? Is he waiting for Jones to go to HW then? I guess I don't see why DC would fight anyone other than Cain or Jones when Dana said he could have a shot at either champion. I know he doesn't want to fight Cain so why not fight Jones like he's been saying he wants to? Phone Post 3.0

 I think DC is going to wait untill after the Cain/Bigfoot fight in a couple weeks time before he solidifies his plans. Even if he doesn't want to fight cain, if UFC heavyweight history is any indication, Cain's reign at the top may not be a long one anyway(though if anyone has the skills to break this trend, it's Cain in my opinion)

I also suspect that Cormier, despite earlier interviews, is still somewhat circumspect about dropping to 205.  He had a health emergency after cutting weight for wrestling, and while there are many differences in his situation now, it may still be in the back of his mind.

5/1/13 10:53 AM
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5/1/13 11:04 AM
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ShaqNoob - 
JOESONDO - DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? Phone Post 3.0
Circles don't have a "back". Phone Post 3.0

It's the opposite direction his face is pointing
5/1/13 12:27 PM
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If he doesn't want fights like this, he should be content to remain a gatekeeper sideshow.
5/1/13 12:47 PM
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<blockquote>JOESONDO - DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/></blockquote>

Why does this even matter? Not like Roy is gonna try to take him down since he obviously favors the stand up game, and IMO he has a better chance to knock DC out than anyone he's fought so far. Remember, DC wasn't that impressive against Mir, who is certainly not a world beater himself.

Should be a good stand up fight.

EDIT: Oops, for some reason I thought you asked if DC had been on his back, so disregard the first part of my comment.
5/1/13 2:18 PM
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The Last Emperor - <blockquote>JOESONDO - DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/></blockquote>

Why does this even matter? Not like Roy is gonna try to take him down since he obviously favors the stand up game, and IMO he has a better chance to knock DC out than anyone he's fought so far. Remember, DC wasn't that impressive against Mir, who is certainly not a world beater himself.

Should be a good stand up fight.

EDIT: Oops, for some reason I thought you asked if DC had been on his back, so disregard the first part of my comment.

I'm thinking it will be the opposite. DC will take Roy down and pound him out. Roy has fought standing the entire time he has been with the UFC. He's a good ground guy but how is he off his back? The only time I've seen him there was against Mir in a grappling comp. Can't remember if he ended up there against Mir in MMA.

When DC fought Mir, his gameplan was not to go the ground or stand but clinch the entire time. Really boring strategy but it took Mir out of his gameplan. Mir is dangerous off his back, I don't know if Roy is.
5/1/13 2:22 PM
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Love Roy, comes from the Chael school of whoever whenever.

Love that he just shits on people too, Dana, his manager, whoever.
5/1/13 2:55 PM
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Manager is all about posturing and getting money and all, not saying the right thing. Phone Post
5/1/13 3:00 PM
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willienugget - 
JOESONDO - 
ShaqNoob - 
JOESONDO - DC is a bad style match up for Roy. Has Roy even been on his back since he got to the UFC? Phone Post 3.0
Circles don't have a "back". Phone Post 3.0

It's the opposite direction his face is pointing

For real? lighten up dude that was funny

For realz. I'm certain the that is where his back is. How else are you supposed to tell?
5/1/13 3:05 PM
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I was dissapointed Cormier didn't really prove what his striking could do against Mir. I'm farily sure he'd clinch Roy too.

5/1/13 3:43 PM
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guess we get to see roy ko bigfoot