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The #3 UFC lightweight Conor McGregor fights the #5 lightweight Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone at UFC 246; with a win McGregor may get a rematch vs. division champ Khabib Nurmagomedov. Thus there was a degree of fan bafflement when the bout was announced as being at welterweight.
 
On a recent Joe Rogan Experience MMA Show podcast, the host offered a theory.
 
 
“Because Conor doesn’t want to lose any weight,” said Rogan, as transcribed by Jed Meshew for MMA Fighting. “I think that guy tortured himself to get down to 145 so hard - and when you look at what he looked like when he was on the scale, when he was flexing, he looked like a god damn zombie. It was horrible. So I think, whether he complains or not about that, nobody rides for free. You do that to your body for a couple of years, you do some damage and it makes it harder to lose the weight afterwards.
 
“So then he’s going up to 155. He’s obviously elite at 155, wins the title at 155, has the great rematch with Diaz at 170 and then comes back and fights Khabib at 155 and gets mauled. He has a fight with Cowboy, he’s really a 55er that can fight welterweight. That’s the right size for him versus, I don’t think Nate is fighting 155 any time in the future anymore.”
 
“He’s fighting a guy who, I think in his eyes is not really a welterweight. I think he thinks of Cowboy as a guy who will fight at 170 but he’s really a 55er... I think Conor’s calculated in his comeback. I think this is a smart fight for him because he’s not fighting someone who is too big, where I feel like that was the argument about Nate even though Nate did fight at 155 for a long time. He’s a big dude. And then there’s some other guys that want to fight him at 170 that are real 170s. [Jorge] Masvidal is a perfect example of that. Masvidal was a 155er for a long time but he’s not anymore.”
 
“Look, it’s gonna be f***ing great. Whether you watch it on TV or you watch it live, it’s gonna be f***ing great. And if Conor can catch him early, it could be very interesting... [But] if Cowboy can use his distance - and he’s very good at doing it - and he can avoid that straight left because Conor’s got a piston of a left hand..."
12/5/19 2:51 PM
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Connor is gonna catch cowboy. I love Cowboy don't get me wrong, but his chin hasn't been the best lately. He gets his lights out easily lately. 

12/5/19 2:51 PM
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12/5/19 3:01 PM
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I appreciate your effort for attempting to restore content.

People will have something negative to say, but I agree with you. 

12/5/19 3:03 PM
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Connor is gonna catch cowboy. I love Cowboy don't get me wrong, but his chin hasn't been the best lately. He gets his lights out easily lately. 

Yeah I see Cowboy being slightly bigger but it won’t make a difference. Conor’s power has held up in both Nate fights. I love Cowboy but this matchup is tailor made for Conor. 

12/5/19 3:39 PM
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I appreciate your effort for attempting to restore content.

People will have something negative to say, but I agree with you. 

I dig it. It’s effort, that’s a start 

12/5/19 3:55 PM
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Cowboy felt "stiff" in is last few fight, not a smooth as he used to be... I don't see him winning this fight.
12/5/19 5:01 PM
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first 15 seconds

Schaub: long overdue, right?

Joe: I think this is the perfect time for it

Schaub: Me too, I agree

12/6/19 10:42 AM
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Connor is gonna catch cowboy. I love Cowboy don't get me wrong, but his chin hasn't been the best lately. He gets his lights out easily lately. 

Yeah I see Cowboy being slightly bigger but it won’t make a difference. Conor’s power has held up in both Nate fights. I love Cowboy but this matchup is tailor made for Conor. 

Your second statement just isn't true. It could be argued that Conor's lack of power against Nate lost him that first fight. However, Cowboy's chin is nowhere near as strong as Nate's. This is a pretty interesting fight.

12/6/19 12:59 PM
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It just depends on what cowboy shows up. 

12/6/19 11:10 PM
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They sound kind of like something is off s bit when they talk.
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TheMysticMark -

Connor is gonna catch cowboy. I love Cowboy don't get me wrong, but his chin hasn't been the best lately. He gets his lights out easily lately. 

Yeah I see Cowboy being slightly bigger but it won’t make a difference. Conor’s power has held up in both Nate fights. I love Cowboy but this matchup is tailor made for Conor. 

Your second statement just isn't true. It could be argued that Conor's lack of power against Nate lost him that first fight. However, Cowboy's chin is nowhere near as strong as Nate's. This is a pretty interesting fight.

The statement I made is true. Conor stunned Nate more than once in the first fight, and dropped him 3 times in the rematch. Nate just has an ungodly chin. There were a multitude of factors that led to Diaz getting the win, and none of them were “Conor’s lack of power”. Just no. 

12/7/19 12:35 AM
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Cowboy was a walking skeleton at the weigh ins the day of his first return fight at 155. I think everything Rogan said about Connor, is true about Cowboy at this point as well. I expect a much better performance from Cowboy at 170, he really should have never gone back down to 155.

12/7/19 7:52 PM
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MasterofMartialArts -
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TheMysticMark -

Connor is gonna catch cowboy. I love Cowboy don't get me wrong, but his chin hasn't been the best lately. He gets his lights out easily lately. 

Yeah I see Cowboy being slightly bigger but it won’t make a difference. Conor’s power has held up in both Nate fights. I love Cowboy but this matchup is tailor made for Conor. 

Your second statement just isn't true. It could be argued that Conor's lack of power against Nate lost him that first fight. However, Cowboy's chin is nowhere near as strong as Nate's. This is a pretty interesting fight.

The statement I made is true. Conor stunned Nate more than once in the first fight, and dropped him 3 times in the rematch. Nate just has an ungodly chin. There were a multitude of factors that led to Diaz getting the win, and none of them were “Conor’s lack of power”. Just no. 

Dropping and stunning opponents doesn't mean you win. Did he stun him? Yes. But he still lost. At 155 no one took Conor's punches without losing. The same isn't true at 170. There is a difference whether you like it or not.