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8/22/13 2:32 PM
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Good article I just stumbled upon

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/8/22/4644264/on-official-island-the-lonely-life-of-steve-mazzagatti

8/22/13 3:12 PM
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Lasko -

Good article I just stumbled upon

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/8/22/4644264/on-official-island-the-lonely-life-of-steve-mazzagatti

Good read, VU! Phone Post 3.0
8/22/13 3:13 PM
5/18/13
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he needs to grow back the porn stache.

8/22/13 5:46 PM
2/5/11
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Its bullshit that guys like Dana can practically ruin these guys' lives. Hard fucking job, TTT for steve
8/22/13 6:06 PM
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Knocking a guy for his performance is one thing. But I don't see how he's a "toolbox" cause you think he's a bad ref. That sounds like something a tool would say. Phone Post 3.0
8/22/13 8:15 PM
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Referees make mistakes in every sport; human error is inevitable. The attacks on this guy are unfair. Phone Post 3.0
8/22/13 8:16 PM
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I have issues with Mazz, but he's not the worst by a long shot. I don't understand why Dana always calls him out.

8/22/13 8:55 PM
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Mazz is a good guy and means well. Hes not on the level of Yves and Herb but he is no where, and I mean no where, near as bad as Big Red and Cecil. Phone Post
8/22/13 8:59 PM
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All refs make bad calls, it is tough to ref a MMA fight.
8/22/13 9:01 PM
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ProteinBake - Referees make mistakes in every sport; human error is inevitable. The attacks on this guy are unfair. Phone Post 3.0

exactly its sad how people worship dana so much they attack people he doesnt like
8/22/13 9:02 PM
9/20/06
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steve mazzagatti needs love too. the dude isnt that bad at all. now hook em up and bring it on! come on!
8/22/13 9:02 PM
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Very, very difficult job.
8/22/13 9:17 PM
8/11/11
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Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
8/22/13 9:29 PM
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MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
I agree, he possibly ruined what could have been a perfect career for Bones, and maybe it was a bad call, but the fact that to this day he stands by that call is what makes me think he's a complete douche Phone Post
8/22/13 11:42 PM
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All you need is a good sob story... Can guarantee that this weekend if he makes a mistake everyone will be going "Dana" on his ass. Phone Post 3.0
8/23/13 11:10 AM
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The only way a ref will live up to Dana's standard is for Dana to get in the ring and ref the fight... Then we can sit back and see how well he does ~ He may be a good ref who knows?
8/23/13 11:11 AM
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MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.

I completely disagree. Illegal blows are illegal. Rule is stupid, but it was still against the rules.

If Jones stood up and started stomping on Hamil's head or soccer kicking him should he have been disqualified then?

Even if it wasn't the stomps/kicks that finished him?
8/23/13 11:19 AM
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Mazzagatti >>>>>> Kim Winslow.
8/23/13 11:20 AM
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MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
On the plus side he never has to deal with people asking him about being undefeated or the pressure that comes with it and all the marketing and stuff because he technically has a loss. Phone Post
8/24/13 4:34 AM
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salmonstinks - 
MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.

I completely disagree. Illegal blows are illegal. Rule is stupid, but it was still against the rules.

If Jones stood up and started stomping on Hamil's head or soccer kicking him should he have been disqualified then?

Even if it wasn't the stomps/kicks that finished him?

This, Jones fucked up not mazz,


Cant hate the referee for dqing someone for a legitimate foul.
8/24/13 5:00 AM
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JROTT -
MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
I agree, he possibly ruined what could have been a perfect career for Bones, and maybe it was a bad call, but the fact that to this day he stands by that call is what makes me think he's a complete douche Phone Post
RE it being a 'No Contest' is that not something the camp should have appealed for after the fight? See it happen these days where wins are overturned to a NC because of an illegal foul.

It was so long ago, so I am not sure if that was within the rules back then? Phone Post 3.0
8/24/13 5:12 AM
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Nice read, Chuck. Phone Post
8/24/13 5:14 AM
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thejoeyapps - 
JROTT -
MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
I agree, he possibly ruined what could have been a perfect career for Bones, and maybe it was a bad call, but the fact that to this day he stands by that call is what makes me think he's a complete douche Phone Post
RE it being a 'No Contest' is that not something the camp should have appealed for after the fight? See it happen these days where wins are overturned to a NC because of an illegal foul.

It was so long ago, so I am not sure if that was within the rules back then? Phone Post 3.0

 

Jones' camp did appeal. It was denied.

 

 

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/NSAC-Denies-Jones-Appeal-21718

 

I'm a Jones fan, but I agree with notion that the DQ actually takes some pressure off of him. He also learned an important lesson.

With that being said, Mazzagatti's statements in the article seem to indicate that he believed Jones wasn't doing any real damage to Hamill before the 12-6 elbows landed. I'm sorry, but that's comically stupid. Hamill had the living shit beaten out of him before the illegal elbows, which were the last two strikes of the fight, were landed.

8/24/13 5:53 AM
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That was a pretty terrible article....what journalist admits to loving to hate an official?

8/24/13 6:36 AM
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Phisher - 
thejoeyapps - 
JROTT -
MisterHawkeMMA - Really hate that he wouldn't admit that he botched the Jones V. Hamill fight.

Although Jones did throw some illegal blows, they are not what caused the stoppage. Hamill's shoulder is what stopped the fight. So, clearly that should've been a victory for Jones... or at the very least a no contest.

Jones should hate Mazzagati more than Dana does. Not having that 0 on the other side of his record has probably cost him a lot of money.
I agree, he possibly ruined what could have been a perfect career for Bones, and maybe it was a bad call, but the fact that to this day he stands by that call is what makes me think he's a complete douche Phone Post
RE it being a 'No Contest' is that not something the camp should have appealed for after the fight? See it happen these days where wins are overturned to a NC because of an illegal foul.

It was so long ago, so I am not sure if that was within the rules back then? Phone Post 3.0

 

Jones' camp did appeal. It was denied.

 

 

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/NSAC-Denies-Jones-Appeal-21718

 

I'm a Jones fan, but I agree with notion that the DQ actually takes some pressure off of him. He also learned an important lesson.

With that being said, Mazzagatti's statements in the article seem to indicate that he believed Jones wasn't doing any real damage to Hamill before the 12-6 elbows landed. I'm sorry, but that's comically stupid. Hamill had the living shit beaten out of him before the illegal elbows, which were the last two strikes of the fight, were landed.


Ah there you go then, thanks VU. Denied. Anyway my point was that its not Mazza's responsibilty to overturn it to a NC. He could have called it there in the cage but that is not what he saw or what he believed so he can't call it.