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According to Jon Jones, on TUF, referring to next week's fight. What?! Phone Post
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It doesn't win Olympic medals either.
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Porkchop - It doesn't win Olympic medals either.
Ahhhh hahahaha. I see that Phone Post
2/12/13 10:12 PM
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He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
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has he ever seen his own fights?
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PK618 - He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
What about the German suplex Rustam Khabilov KOd Vinc Pichel with? Phone Post
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gusto - has he ever seen his own fights?
Huh? Phone Post
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octowussy - 
gusto - has he ever seen his own fights?

You means the ones where he brutally finishes his opponents?

the ones where he throws motherfuckers
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PK618 - He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
What about the German suplex Rustam Khabilov KOd Vinc Pichel with? Phone Post

I'm not saying I agree with him, I am saying he corrected himself.
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UGCTT SidRival's Butler - 
PK618 - He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
What about the German suplex Rustam Khabilov KOd Vinc Pichel with? Phone Post

I'm not saying I agree with him, I am saying he corrected himself.
I didn't mean to imply that you did, I quoted you for Jon's quote. Phone Post
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PK618 - He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
What about the German suplex Rustam Khabilov KOd Vinc Pichel with? Phone Post

I'm not saying I agree with him, I am saying he corrected himself.
I didn't mean to imply that you did, I quoted you for Jon's quote. Phone Post
I'm fairly certain he was speaking in general. Phone Post
2/12/13 10:54 PM
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PK618 - He literally just tweeted "Oops, I meant it doesn't finish fights".
Lol wonder if he saw the UG! Phone Post
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gamer - I hate to agree with Jones, but the fact is, Jones is right regardless

Wrestling by itself can not finish fights

It can only get you into position

Striking and BJJ is what finishes fights

Striking arts and submission arts are legitimate martial arts
Phil Davis disagrees with you, sir. Phone Post

What the heck are you talking about lol

Davis catches opponents with unorthodox submissions....BJJ. ....he is using BJJ

Davis has struggled to take down or hold down a majority of his opponents....without BJJ he would be a mess!

BJJ!
So what would you call Jones' submission over Belfort? Looked like a wrestling lock to me Phone Post

A kimura lock, which is BJJ
Actually its judo. Phone Post
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gamer - I hate to agree with Jones, but the fact is, Jones is right regardless

Wrestling by itself can not finish fights

It can only get you into position

Striking and BJJ is what finishes fights

Striking arts and submission arts are legitimate martial arts
Phil Davis disagrees with you, sir. Phone Post

What the heck are you talking about lol

Davis catches opponents with unorthodox submissions....BJJ. ....he is using BJJ

Davis has struggled to take down or hold down a majority of his opponents....without BJJ he would be a mess!

BJJ!
So what would you call Jones' submission over Belfort? Looked like a wrestling lock to me Phone Post

A kimura lock, which is BJJ
Actually its judo. Phone Post

It is?

Yar, I mean a lot of the arts borrow from eachother and they obviously teach it in jujitsu but the kimura is a judo move not that it matters that much. Phone Post
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Americana is all american bob anderson baby
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Porkchop - It doesn't win Olympic medals either.
Lol, played sir. Phone Post
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Porkchop - It doesn't win Olympic medals either.
Lol. Ouch Phone Post
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gamer - I hate to agree with Jones, but the fact is, Jones is right regardless

Wrestling by itself can not finish fights

It can only get you into position

Striking and BJJ is what finishes fights

Striking arts and submission arts are legitimate martial arts

Etc., etc. Besides the slams, all the positioning, control ties, scrambles, work ethic, training, competition experience, and more from wrestling wins these fights.

2/13/13 12:12 AM
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gamer - Ausgepicht,

Regarding Rampage vs Arona:

The slam didnt cause the knockout

It was the head butt which caused the finish

Bas Rutten even called it out!

Besides, those are rare instances in where a slam directly caused the finish

By the way, who is to say that a slam/takedown means its from wrestling

Judo incorporates takedowns, so do many other martial arts too

Wrestling is mostly for position

You are right in what you say about wrestling in your last paragraph. It contributes to etc

But regarding direcrt finishes, what directly finishes a fight 98% of the time is striking, submissions, or ground and pound striking

Your trolling is completely transparent and unoriginal. And your syntax sucks. VTFD.

2/13/13 12:41 AM
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gamer - 
ausgepicht - 
gamer - Ausgepicht,

Regarding Rampage vs Arona:

The slam didnt cause the knockout

It was the head butt which caused the finish

Bas Rutten even called it out!

Besides, those are rare instances in where a slam directly caused the finish

By the way, who is to say that a slam/takedown means its from wrestling

Judo incorporates takedowns, so do many other martial arts too

Wrestling is mostly for position

You are right in what you say about wrestling in your last paragraph. It contributes to etc

But regarding direcrt finishes, what directly finishes a fight 98% of the time is striking, submissions, or ground and pound striking

Your trolling is completely transparent and unoriginal. And your syntax sucks. VTFD.


work ethic, training, competition experience, and more from wrestling wins these fights.Wow you are voting me down for disagreeing with you!

I hardly ever vote people down, but im going to vote you down for being a pussy

By the way, I would agree with what you said here:

"work ethic, training, competition experience, and more from wrestling wins these fights."


But as for wrestling directly being able to FINISH fights?

Nope! Striking and submissions are what FINISHES FIGHTS 98% of the time

 

gamer - Jones is right regardless Wrestling by itself can not finish fights 
It can only get you into position 

Trolling, trolling, trolling gently down the stream.

 

2/13/13 2:59 AM
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^ You are wrong. give it up. wrestling slams have and do knock people out all the time. Deal with it.
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It wins fights just not casual fans. Phone Post
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Porkchop - It doesn't win Olympic medals either.
Well done Phone Post
2/13/13 9:57 AM
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Porkchop - It doesn't win Olympic medals either.

Oh snap son!

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gamer - I hate to agree with Jones, but the fact is, Jones is right regardless

Wrestling by itself can not finish fights

It can only get you into position

Striking and BJJ is what finishes fights

Striking arts and submission arts are legitimate martial arts
Phil Davis disagrees with you, sir. Phone Post

What the heck are you talking about lol

Davis catches opponents with unorthodox submissions....BJJ. ....he is using BJJ

Davis has struggled to take down or hold down a majority of his opponents....without BJJ he would be a mess!

BJJ!
So what would you call Jones' submission over Belfort? Looked like a wrestling lock to me Phone Post

A kimura lock, which is BJJ
Actually its judo. Phone Post

It is?

Yar, I mean a lot of the arts borrow from eachother and they obviously teach it in jujitsu but the kimura is a judo move not that it matters that much. Phone Post

I really didnt know that. Thank you for telling me

hmmmmmm and where did judo come from?



Thats right Japanese Ju-Jitsu.

SO if you want to go the anti-BJJ route, fine, you are correct. But to say Kano came up with a key lock is silly.