What if ... UFC FoxSprts 1 maybe off due to Mass SS Card Law?

6/18/13 10:09 AM
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UFC on Fox Sports 1 #1 In Danger of Cancellation Due to Social Security Flaw

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(MMA Lead Writer) on June 18, 2013

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We're still two months away from the UFC's debut on the much-hyped Fox Sports 1 cable channel, but if a report from Tuesday morning's Boston Herald is any indication, the show could be in danger of not happening at all.

Per the Herald's Dave Wedge:

State red tape could knock out a blockbuster fight card slated for Boston Garden later this summer as government officials are refusing the UFC’s request to relax rules barring foreign-born fighters from hitting the octagon without Social Security numbers.

The Massachusetts law has been in place since the sport was first legalized in 2009. Under the rules, state officials are not allowed to issue a fighter's license without a social security card. That poses a problem for fighters such as Mauricio Rua, Thiago Alves, Yuri Alcantara and Akira Corrassani, all of whom are currently scheduled to appear on the Boston card, and all of whom would not be able to do so without a social security card.

Rua is slated to face Chael Sonnen in the evening's main event.

 

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6/18/13 10:10 AM
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unreal.

6/18/13 10:12 AM
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Don't you have to be American citizen to get social security card....because social security benefits are only for Americans? Phone Post
6/18/13 10:19 AM
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How does barring foreigners from competing make any sense at all? What is their justification for remaining stubborn on this? Boo this nonsense!
6/18/13 10:27 AM
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That just doesn't make sense. Phone Post
6/18/13 10:29 AM
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Def missing something here...you have to become a US citizen to fight in MA??

Guess I'll hold onto the $500 I saved up for tickets.
6/18/13 10:31 AM
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How the fuck did ufc lawyers not catch this before scheduling an event? If I worked for the ufc I would have laminated rule sheets in all 50 states so this shit never happened. Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 10:35 AM
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UFC fail

6/18/13 10:36 AM
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hopefully the guys can get the temp, or conditional SS Cards?

6/18/13 10:38 AM
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UFC 118 had 5 non americans on the card. Maia, Miranda, Winner, Osipczak and Alves and i don't remember hearing this then

6/18/13 10:41 AM
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Fucking hate dealing with social security... lost my tiny fukin card and couldnt get a job because of it.. had to travel 2 counties north to wait for hours to get a temporary card. And they wouldnt even accept that. This system is in need of some maitnence. Phone Post
6/18/13 10:44 AM
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OneGloveJimmerson - How does barring foreigners from competing make any sense at all? What is their justification for remaining stubborn on this? Boo this nonsense!
Bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat.1 Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 10:47 AM
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Pancake Syrup - 

UFC 118 had 5 non americans on the card. Maia, Miranda, Winner, Osipczak and Alves and i don't remember hearing this then


Wow, even more perplexing, what is going on here
6/18/13 10:47 AM
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Cyril Jeff -

 

hopefully the guys can get the temp, or conditional SS Cards?

Whoa!
"Don't let's be silly! " (mad hatter's voice)

Surely you recognize the flaw in your suggestion Phone Post
6/18/13 10:48 AM
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Chris posted last night and said the UFC was already in the process if getting them and it shouldn't be an issue Phone Post
6/18/13 10:56 AM
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It will all get handled. Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 11:04 AM
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Lessphilling -
Pancake Syrup - 

UFC 118 had 5 non americans on the card. Maia, Miranda, Winner, Osipczak and Alves and i don't remember hearing this then


Wow, even more perplexing, what is going on here
The good ol' boys want their palms greased. Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 11:08 AM
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TheGoldenRule - 
Cyril Jeff -

 

hopefully the guys can get the temp, or conditional SS Cards?

Whoa!
"Don't let's be silly! " (mad hatter's voice)

Surely you recognize the flaw in your suggestion Phone Post

 

no, what did I miss?

 

"The federal government has a provision in place where a foreign worker may receive a temporary social security card after waiting through a 10-day grace period."

6/18/13 11:11 AM
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.... didn't intend to insinuate you were the prob. The law which enables a foreign citizen to obtain (legally, mind you) is the prob. Albeit a planned problem

Yet another example of the banking system (govt) manipulating the people to further line their pockets with evermore $.
Instead of proposing a law which requires the employer to pay the taxes prior to the contractor receiving their share of their earnings, they perpetuate an already flawed system (ss) to gain even more $, all while adding a potential possibility for foreigners t to earn ss benefits later in life with their "temporary" ss# while they live most of their lives in another country. Phone Post
6/18/13 11:13 AM
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.. didn't and don't wanna preach, frat, etc. ..just wanted to somewhat clarify that I want regarding what you said as false. ... just that the problem is that what you said is correct Phone Post
6/18/13 11:15 AM
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UGCKIRTT_SonofJockstrap -
Authority Figure -  Don't you have to be American citizen to get social security card....because social security benefits are only for Americans? Phone Post

Exactly.

The law is dumb and Massachusetts is dumb. 

FDR swore that the SS number would only relate to SS benefits... That didn't hold up.

The SS # is much more of an identifier now and Mass wants the fighters to have one. This could be for 1 - Protection from an outside threat 2 - If one of the foreign fighters needs to go to the hospital (it may tie to another goofy state law regarding health care).

It's poppycock and its gonna fuck this card up good. Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 11:16 AM
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This is beyond silly. Why would they even try and stall something like this based on a failing system that most Americans don't even want to be a part of. Phone Post 3.0
6/18/13 11:18 AM
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TheGoldenRule -  .... didn't intend to insinuate you were the prob. The law which enables a foreign citizen to obtain (legally, mind you) is the prob. Albeit a planned problem

Yet another example of the banking system (govt) manipulating the people to further line their pockets with evermore $.
Instead of proposing a law which requires the employer to pay the taxes prior to the contractor receiving their share of their earnings, they perpetuate an already flawed system (ss) to gain even more $, all while adding a potential possibility for foreigners t to earn ss benefits later in life with their "temporary" ss# while they live most of their lives in another country. Phone Post

^ THAT I agree with, 100%.

6/18/13 11:18 AM
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If this has been in effect since 2009, how did Boston have UFC 118? Were there no foreign fighters on that card?
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TuLegit - This is beyond silly. Why would they even try and stall something like this based on a failing system that most Americans don't even want to be a part of. Phone Post 3.0
$
Always $
Laws were originally written to protect.
Once it was realized that law could also be used for profit. It was all over Phone Post