UnderGround Forum >> Hoelzer Reich outs themselves on myspace

TheLuckyMilkMan -  once again... they chose to use the skull and bones associated only with the SS. they could have used any skull and bones but they chose that one... wtf

JYM... your retort is that of someone whose bottom line is foolish. you are saying it doesnt matter who sponsors a fighter as long as the fighter gets sponsored. that is what your bototm line is and you are a fool.

fortheloveofMMA -  mmachix,
i just want you to know that i am white and i love my black girlfriend and will probably marry her and have kids one day. i dive into her vagina face first on a regular basis. she goes to college, and didnt get in because of affirmative action. then, on Christmas, we go to my jewish uncles house and have a great time. i mean we really enjoy it. hes a great guy while he makes tons and tons of money and theres nothing you can do to stop it. then i go visit my girlfriend's family and we have a great time as well. they are mostly black with a few more interracial marriages that are polluting your white blood. we all coexist happily and they are highly educated and no one there makes less than at least 50,000 a year. i go there and do not feel superior in any way. when i get home i go speak to my neighbor who is mexican and also loaded. he has no accent but speaks spanish and english fluidly. he has a huge house and owns multiple very successful businesses. we also get along with him great and he is a great person.

o, and my president is black, my lambo's blue, and ill be gotdamned if my rims aint too



just wanted to make sure you threw up your thanksgiving meal and didnt enjoy it at all

MMACHIX - 

fortheloveofMMA -  mmachix,
i just want you to know that i am white and i love my black girlfriend and will probably marry her and have kids one day. i dive into her vagina face first on a regular basis. she goes to college, and didnt get in because of affirmative action. then, on Christmas, we go to my jewish uncles house and have a great time. i mean we really enjoy it. hes a great guy while he makes tons and tons of money and theres nothing you can do to stop it. then i go visit my girlfriend's family and we have a great time as well. they are mostly black with a few more interracial marriages that are polluting your white blood. we all coexist happily and they are highly educated and no one there makes less than at least 50,000 a year. i go there and do not feel superior in any way. when i get home i go speak to my neighbor who is mexican and also loaded. he has no accent but speaks spanish and english fluidly. he has a huge house and owns multiple very successful businesses. we also get along with him great and he is a great person.

o, and my president is black, my lambo's blue, and ill be gotdamned if my rims aint too



just wanted to make sure you threw up your thanksgiving meal and didnt enjoy it at all

 Really? That is great... My 2 best friends are half black, I work in the apparel industry with asian and black guys that are amazing at what they do, my step mom is mexican, my 2 half brother and sister are both mexican, I live in a very colorful community, my only white girlfriend is Jewish, what are you trying to say???

I, nor Hoelzer Reich, is not racist.

Seriously... our clothes have a lot of historical imagery on them, family lineage is all german... stop judging us, we are not bad people doing bad things...

Happy Thanksgiving.

MMACHIX - 

fortheloveofMMA -  mmachix,
i just want you to know that i am white and i love my black girlfriend and will probably marry her and have kids one day. i dive into her vagina face first on a regular basis. she goes to college, and didnt get in because of affirmative action. then, on Christmas, we go to my jewish uncles house and have a great time. i mean we really enjoy it. hes a great guy while he makes tons and tons of money and theres nothing you can do to stop it. then i go visit my girlfriend's family and we have a great time as well. they are mostly black with a few more interracial marriages that are polluting your white blood. we all coexist happily and they are highly educated and no one there makes less than at least 50,000 a year. i go there and do not feel superior in any way. when i get home i go speak to my neighbor who is mexican and also loaded. he has no accent but speaks spanish and english fluidly. he has a huge house and owns multiple very successful businesses. we also get along with him great and he is a great person.

o, and my president is black, my lambo's blue, and ill be gotdamned if my rims aint too



just wanted to make sure you threw up your thanksgiving meal and didnt enjoy it at all

 Really? That is great... My 2 best friends are half black, I work in the apparel industry with asian and black guys that are amazing at what they do, my step mom is mexican, my 2 half brother and sister are both mexican, I live in a very colorful community, my only white girlfriend is Jewish, what are you trying to say???

I, nor Hoelzer Reich, is not racist.

Seriously... our clothes have a lot of historical imagery on them, family lineage is all german... stop judging us, we are not bad people doing bad things...

Happy Thanksgiving.

MMACHIX - WELL HELLO TO ALL OF YOU.

This is Jamie Vine, Owner of Hoelzer Reich Clothing.

1. We are NOT Nazi Supporters, or do we condone ANYthing that happened in Germany in 1933-1945.

2. We do sponsor men of Color. Color has nothing to do with who you are as a poerson, or a fighter.

3. Justin Driggers (http://www.myspace.com/0_flow_0) is a talented Muay Thai fighter stepping into MMA. We are sponsoring him, and we are prud to have him on the team.

4. Calling a friend a "comerade" is a general term, like saying "dude, brother, homie, pal." Stop disecting it into something that it is not.

5. We never "Sponsored" Westwall. The band bought a few of our shirts, and were kind enough to send us some photos in the gear. So, we thought we would post them up, as a thank you. Ed's past has nothing to do with HR. Stop trying to connect the two.

6. Hoelzer Reich is all about sponsoring MMA fighters, and making some cool tshirts to go along with it. We are helping MANY fighters financially right now, creating signature shirts for their events, and being a part of the MMA world. Stop making shit up, and making us out to be someone or something we are not.

7. NONE of our sponsored fighters, OR the owners of Hoelzer Reich Clothing, are racist. Not a drop. 

8. Hoelzer Reich supports MMA at a time when not many companies will. On this alone you should support Hoelzer Reich. At the very least, you shouldn’t slander us because you don’t like THAT type of skull on YOUR MMA clothes. If you dont like it dont buy it. If you do? Great, all the sales on hr4life.com goes into our fighters. Period.

9. Lyle "Fancypants" Beerbohm is one of the most well spoken, driven, educated, talented, dedicated fighters I have ever met. He truely resembles Strength & Honor, and that is what Hoelzer Reich is about. We will sponsor him for as long as he wants us to. We want his fight carrer to become very successful, and we are honored to be a part of that.

10. If ANY of you have any questions, comments, or feel as if you all STILL need to be talking about this on the UG and giving us free publicity (oh, thanks for the spike in sales, by the way!) you can contact me directly.

JAMIE VINE
Owner, Hoelzer Reich Clothing
Phone: 805-797-7368
Email: sixfootgraphix@yahoo.com

MMACHIX -  D_S_A - Our spike in sales was from our fighters fighting in HR and our online marketing.

robbie380  - Correct, we do not sell that shirt anymore.

hmeboy  - Westwall pictures were on our sites. We thought the music was cool.... We were not doing a 20 year background check on the band or its members. We liked the pictures they took in our shirts, we thought it was nice of them, so we put them up.  And now, they are down.

And hmeboy .. how the hell does one person have 12,740 posts on a forum? YOU MUST HAVE NO LIFE.

robbie380 - 

MMACHIX -  robbie380 - I would love to tell you how we came up with the designs for our line. It will all be explained on HR4life.com in the about us section by the end of the weekend. If you want to personally call me, you have my number.

 cool....i don't feel like actually calling but i am curious why you use those distinctive SS symbols on the hoez before broz shirt

and i am curious why you have a fucking SS-TV logo on a shirt that has have a nice day on it?  are you trying to imply on that shirt that people should see that SS-TV logo and have a nice day?  it was clearly a great fucking organization.  wasn't it?

http://www.hr4life.com/product_p/hrhaveniceday.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-Totenkopfverb%C3%A4nde 

SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV) was the SS organization responsible for administering the Nazi concentration camps for the Third Reich.

The SS-TV was an independent unit within the SS with its own ranks and command structure. It ran the camps throughout Germany, such as Dachau, and in Nazi-occupied Europe, such as Auschwitz in Poland or Mauthausen in Austria. It was responsible for facilitating the Holocaust in collaboration with the Reich Main Security Office.

At the outbreak of WWII one of the first combat units of the Waffen-SS, the SS Division Totenkopf, was formed from SS-TV personnel. It soon developed a reputation for ferocity and fanaticism, participating in several war crimes such as the Le Paradis massacre in 1940 during the Fall of France and the murder of Russian civilians in Operation Barbarossa.

While the Totenkopf (English: Death's Head) was the universal cap badge of the SS, the SS-TV also wore the insignia on the right collar to distinguish itself from other SS units.

fortheloveofMMA -  how was that movie drance? it looked good. whats the name again? is it taken?

drance2624 - 
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you we don't have money. But what we do have are a very particular set of skills; skills we have acquired over very long keyboard warrior careers. Skills that make us a nightmare for people like you. If you stop using Nazi imagery now, that'll be the end of it. We will not insult you, we will not chastise you. But if you don't, we will haunt you, we will romo you, and we will destroy you.


DON'T FUCK WITH THE UG!!!

PEACE! I'M OUT!

Pain4Blood2 - I sent my tweet to Dana about this company. Its fucked up to be associated with neo nazis. Just a few months ago my best friend, jewish dude I've known for 20 years now, and I had a chance to visit Germany and see a concentration camp. Its such an incredibly sad and horrific experience. Watching him look through the database at family members killed was truly heartbreaking.

You Hoelzer Reich people are a blight to humanity. Your ignorance deserves no sympathy.

OldManMinerva - [

I really hate that people use the word "ignorance" to describe meanness or callousness. Ignorance is not knowing and these people know exactly what they're doing.

staalosaur - would some of you people still be getting so outraged if this company had something like a hammer & sickle on their clothing instead of alleged nazi symbols?