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UnderGround Forum >> kizer - diaz drank 24 water bottles before test
| 9/28/12 1:40 PM | |
AssassinsNATION
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Member Since: 3/20/11 Posts: 796 |
WTFPICS -You have seen nick diaz's medical records ?? and have seen what he carries in his wallet??tdotguy - They are persecuting him for MJ which he has a license for when pretty much all fighters agree that at least 50% of fighters are on some kind of PED. Why dont you go after the real cheaters and not someone who is puffing on a joint???? Another thing is Kizer doesnt have to make the comments he does about cases and assumptions. Nick had to just not smoke sure, but he didn't fines were given and handled so regardless of what Nick says or does Kizer shouldn't be making slanderous and erroneous rumors and allegations to the press. Plus it is against federal laws I agree but states have a right to their owns laws. guessing disinformation is the same as information nowadays. 
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| 9/28/12 1:58 PM | |
madmav
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Member Since: 3/23/09 Posts: 9681 |
WTFPICS -madmav -WTFPICS -Griffdog -WTFPICS -tdotguy - They are persecuting him for MJ which he has a license for when pretty much all fighters agree that at least 50% of fighters are on some kind of PED. Why dont you go after the real cheaters and not someone who is puffing on a joint???? it is legal.. *facepalm* google california prop 215. doctors can legally "recommend" medical mj |
| 9/28/12 2:07 PM | |
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BigEyedFish
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Member Since: 3/18/02 Posts: 51502 |
Warzone209 - this fucking morons |
| 9/28/12 2:11 PM | |
Hessian
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Member Since: 8/19/06 Posts: 7523 |
Kizer is trying to help prop product. Can nobody else see that? Diaz has been out for a while and nobody is talking about him. Now they are ... |
| 9/28/12 2:27 PM | |
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Griffdog
Member Since: 2/7/06 Posts: 1219 |
WTFPICS -madmav -WTFPICS -madmav -WTFPICS -Griffdog -WTFPICS -tdotguy - They are persecuting him for MJ which he has a license for when pretty much all fighters agree that at least 50% of fighters are on some kind of PED. Why dont you go after the real cheaters and not someone who is puffing on a joint???? Medical marijuana: Medical patients and their designated primary caregivers may legally possess and cultivate (but not distribute or sell) marijuana under Health and Safety Code 11362.5 (Prop 215) if they have a physician's recommendation or approval. State law SB420, now codified as California Health & Safety code sections 11362.7-11362.83, set a state threshold of 6 mature OR 12 immature plants per patient. This California STATE law. Furthermore: Medical cannabis may be legally used & cultivated by qualifed patients in California under Prop. 215, provided they have a recommendation from a licensed physician . State law (SB 420) establishes voluntary state ID card program plus Prop. 215 guidelines for possession and cultivation effective Jan 1, 2004. State limit set at 6 mature or 12 immature plants and 8 ounces marijuana, except where physician declares more is needed, or where local governments authorize more. State ID card program for medical marijuana patients starts up in certain counties. For current info about medical marijuana ID cards, contact state Department of Health Medical Marijuana Program. Certain cities and counties have their own local SB420 cultivation guidelines. Many localities are now passing zoning restrictions on cultivation |
| 9/28/12 2:47 PM | |
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AssassinsNATION
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Member Since: 3/20/11 Posts: 797 |
WTFPICS -I agree that's it nicks fault my point is Kizer really shouldn't be commenting on it anymore than he has too he's making himself look like a idiot and making statements that have no validity and full of assumptions.AssassinsNATION -WTFPICS -You have seen nick diaz's medical records ?? and have seen what he carries in his wallet??tdotguy - They are persecuting him for MJ which he has a license for when pretty much all fighters agree that at least 50% of fighters are on some kind of PED. Why dont you go after the real cheaters and not someone who is puffing on a joint????
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| 9/28/12 3:09 PM | |
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Griffdog
Member Since: 2/7/06 Posts: 1220 |
WTFPICS - "The U.S. Supreme Court has twice upheld the ability of federal officials to enforce federal law which conflicts with state law." Now you are changing the argument. Yes it is still illegal FEDERALLY. However, it is indeed legal at the STATE level, which is exactly what everyone has said. Yes, federal law trumps state laws, but that is only pertinent for the feds to occasionally close a dispensary (of which there are still thousands still open in CA.). The feds are not going to march into Cali (or Colorado or any of the other 17 states it is legal in and start arresting individuals. The fact is, you can indeed publicly consume medical marijuana in CA and you will not be arrested by the police if you have a medical marijuana card (as long as you are not near a school). The local police all enforce the state law of medical marijuana, not the federal interpretation. |
| 9/28/12 3:12 PM | |
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UGCTT_JediMMA
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Member Since: 1/17/11 Posts: 804 |
Griffdog -UGers talking out of their ass??? NOOOOOO can't be!!!WTFPICS -tdotguy - They are persecuting him for MJ which he has a license for when pretty much all fighters agree that at least 50% of fighters are on some kind of PED. Why dont you go after the real cheaters and not someone who is puffing on a joint????
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| 9/28/12 3:26 PM | |
show no mercy
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Member Since: 3/24/11 Posts: 1403 |
WTFPICS - This will be my last post as we seem to be going in circles. you just aren't getting it. there is a difference between state and federal law, and it affects the way that a state government agency enforces state laws...ie this case |
| 9/28/12 3:27 PM | |
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show no mercy
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Member Since: 3/24/11 Posts: 1404 |
federal law is essentially out of the picture on this issue |
| 9/28/12 3:55 PM | |
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UGCTTN00B
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Member Since: 3/5/12 Posts: 134 |
WTFPICS - This will be my last post as we seem to be going in circles. I can't tell if you're trolling or just legitimately retarded. |
| 9/28/12 4:07 PM | |
UGCTT_Winnson
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 10024 |
I'm surprised some of the idiots in this thread haven't suggested sending Diaz to Gitmo. No fucking wonder he said he was done with this shit. I honestly hope he never comes back to the UFC or fights in the States again, unless it's for one fight that will set him up for the rest of his life. The people and authority have spoken, and proven they are fucking idiots. |
| 9/28/12 4:21 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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Member Since: 5/14/06 Posts: 30735 |
I'm workshopping the idea of airlifting the entire 209 and putting it on floats in Guantanamo Bay BRB |
| 9/28/12 4:50 PM | |
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YousHerName
Member Since: 9/10/12 Posts: 47 |
What you cant pound water after a fight now? Kieth Kizer is the devil 
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| 9/28/12 5:07 PM | |
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Silverball
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Member Since: 12/6/10 Posts: 1277 |
Kizer's a tool.
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| 9/28/12 5:11 PM | |
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Woodford Mike
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Member Since: 2/23/10 Posts: 2325 |
Honestly, this thing is just a mess on both sides and there's plenty of blame to go around.
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| 9/28/12 5:28 PM | |
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KempoKata
Member Since: 2/16/12 Posts: 11 |
Griffdog "Yes it is still illegal FEDERALLY. However, it is indeed legal at the STATE level, which is exactly what everyone has said. Yes, federal law trumps state laws, but that is only pertinent for the feds to occasionally close a dispensary (of which there are still thousands still open in CA.). The feds are not going to march into Cali (or Colorado or any of the other 17 states it is legal in and start arresting individuals. The fact is, you can indeed publicly consume medical marijuana in CA and you will not be arrested by the police if you have a medical marijuana card (as long as you are not near a school). The local police all enforce the state law of medical marijuana, not the federal interpretation. " This. The feds only go after the big fish mane, so they can get their slice of the pie. If you only knew how much money is made. The local sherriffs and police enforce the local laws... I have hypothetically been caught many a time with a schedule one federally illegal drug. Hypothetically, on many occasions I have had said narcotic taken away from me and on many occasion let go, with or without a liscense. Not to mention all the times I have hypothetically been seen consuming said narcotic in public...put it in the air! They hypothetically just look away and, shit, most of the time acknowledge you wit the head nod. This has hypothetically happened in a many cities in Cali. Never been acosted by a fed tho, even having been in their presence. All of this beeing said, that doesn't mean many are wreckless about it. Im not saying that foos flaunt it, but its not a major thang anymore. To walk around with more than an ounce is askin for trouble as people like to take shit. Now whether thats the LEO's or by force from whomever, it is still more than a monetary knock in the pock. 300 for an ounce(thats a median scale). Not to mention they can take your ass to jail if you got more than an ounce on you. Just some insight as to how it is out here. Now as to Nick testin positive, it's some bullshit that it is even banned. Nevertheless it is. I got to piss clean for work and have the knowledge to do so. But I only make construction wages. If I was fightin for a livin and makin that paper I think I would make dam sure to piss clean. Like many have said before, if you wanna play their game to make that money, you got to adhere or make it appear like you adhere to their rules. As TRT is concerned, I don't think it should be allowed. However, I grew up with and had to compete against and have fought some of the rich kids or kids who could get it in school that would roid, and slam creatine in the locker room, so it doesn't supprise me or phase me that dudes are on that shit and no one cares. Hope to see dude come back and take that belt as he is an exciting personality and fighter. |
| 9/28/12 8:31 PM | |
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Chiron
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Member Since: 10/14/07 Posts: 542 |
Can someone explain to me why it makes sense to not allow a fighter to smoke weed a week away from a fight but let them use TRT all the way to/through the fight? Kizer and the AC's are incompetent. |
| 9/28/12 8:35 PM | |
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inf0
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Member Since: 7/29/02 Posts: 65505 |
Marijuana is a performance enchancer when it comes to posting on forums.... comedy.. making music... fucking.. painting... but not fighting
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| 9/29/12 1:14 AM | |
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Joeldbear762
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Member Since: 5/16/12 Posts: 85 |
32Hunter -Thanks man. You can see water is thing last thing on his mind. he spends the whole time talking about the fight. Kizer is a lying piece of shit.Joeldbear762 - Watch dana white's vlog for that fight. He's smashing water flat!
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| 9/29/12 1:26 AM | |
HexRei
Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 11080 |
Is he seriously claming Nick drank what is probably like... 3+ gallons -GALLONS- of water right after his fight, before the post-fight piss test? Did he go into a coma right afterward? |
| 9/29/12 1:36 AM | |
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HexRei
Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 11081 |
WTFPICS -Tankhead - Not a Diaz fan boy but I think weed is less of a performance enhancer than TRT. Yes, I believe it was Dr Tony Alamo of the NSAC who was quoted saying it was a performance enhancer following Nick's first positive, in explanation as to why the commission had not only penalized Diaz with suspension and fines, but overturned his win. Said he thought Diaz was so stoned that he FELT NO PAIN. I wish I was joking. |
| 9/29/12 1:41 AM | |
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kinkle
Edited: 09/29/12 1:41 AM Member Since: 11/23/05 Posts: 9168 |
Fuck Kizer, what an incompetent, dumb piece of shit douchebag. Let's focus on eliminating pot smokers, instead of actually running a competent athletic commission. I have to wonder how good of a dick-sucker/deep-throater/power-bottom Kizer must be to have become (and still have his fucking job) as the director of the NSAC, he is a dumb/incompetent sack of shit after all. |
| 9/29/12 4:52 AM | |
fightharder
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Member Since: 1/14/11 Posts: 1409 |
The whole fucking situation is unfortunate. Of course it is rather silly that Diaz is being punished to such an extend for intake of a drug that is hardly proven to be ''performance enhancing'' (Joe Rogan might tend to differ though i do think his point of view has some merit....but since i live in Amsterdam and lot of my friend used to smoke or still smoke on a regular basic i really never understood how it could be performance enhancing in a fight because the dulling of pain versus the added sluggishness etc does not really add up). The fact that,while still in his body, he smoked so many days before the fight should make the whole thing moot. The whole weed issue is obviously political (general attitude to it still amazes me....i was kind of suprised the proposition to make it legal was defeated in California) and extremely unfortunate.
Having said that the people who where guiding Diaz professionally through this whole ordeal obviously make big mistakes. They should have protected Diaz against himself,should have chosen another strategy and generally should have made sure he was not only knowledge about the pitfuls of choosing a certain aggresive strategy but should also be extremely wary of it (even though his sense of injustice might be a valid one). If you compare this case to Overeem's and the simple fact that they actually added perjury to the charges it is obvious Keizer and the athletic commision take this case more personal that other performance enhancing drug case before them. I sense that they feel personally slightly by Diaz but more importantly also by the people representing him. That might not be a bad thing for his marketabilty for certain fans but it does do incredible harm to his bottom line because he cannot escape the influence of these commision members on his career and hence on his prospect to not only earn money but also build a certain legacy. I am sorry but in my eyes this whole debacle has only losers and its unfortunate and plain right dumb that it should be this way (and being ''right'' is no excuse for stupidity in my eyes).
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| 9/29/12 4:56 AM | |
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mastertahj
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Member Since: 3/31/11 Posts: 124 |
Kizer molests collies.
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