UnderGround Forum >> Condit wants Anderson Silva next

yellow wrkahlc - 

Greg not being in his corner will hinder Condit's performance.

It's bullshit that Jackson can corner Jones in the Evans fight, yet he can't do it now. GSP is NOT, I repeat, is NOT a Team Jackson fighter, and he never was. He would go there for occasional gameplanning with other fighters, but was never one of Jackson's guys.

GSP has now made Tristar his homebase, and Greg still talks like he's one of his fighters (when he never was). The best part is Condit and GSP never sparred together in the gym. The most they ever came into contact with each other was a simple greeting. That was it.

 

He needs to be in Condit's corner. Instead, he wants to play it as though he coaches both guys, just to keep his name next to GSP's. He may have worked with GSP in the past, but he's no longer affiliated with him. Be a coach, and stop acting like they were brothers.

ssj - VTFD for the RETARDED and COMPLETELY INCORRECT thread title.

LilBrockonmychest - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

Greg not being in his corner will hinder Condit's performance.

It's bullshit that Jackson can corner Jones in the Evans fight, yet he can't do it now. GSP is NOT, I repeat, is NOT a Team Jackson fighter, and he never was. He would go there for occasional gameplanning with other fighters, but was never one of Jackson's guys.

GSP has now made Tristar his homebase, and Greg still talks like he's one of his fighters (when he never was). The best part is Condit and GSP never sparred together in the gym. The most they ever came into contact with each other was a simple greeting. That was it.

 

He needs to be in Condit's corner. Instead, he wants to play it as though he coaches both guys, just to keep his name next to GSP's. He may have worked with GSP in the past, but he's no longer affiliated with him. Be a coach, and stop acting like they were brothers.

"When Georges St. Pierre defeated Matt Hughes at UFC 65, GSP began training with team members of Jackson's camp. Nate Marquardt and Rashad Evans both flew to Montreal to assist St. Pierre. At that point, when GSP won the welterweight title, he was not yet a member of Jackson's Fight Team. After losing his title to Matt Serra at UFC 69, GSP officially joined Jackson's team in an effort to regain his championship belt."

GSP: Officially joined Jacksons in April of 2007

Condit: Officially joined Jacksons in April of 2009 (before Kampmann fight and after leaving AZCS).

 

To continue and act like GSP has no ties to GJ is just silly.  There is a reason he is at the weigh ins, in his corner, and in the cage giving him advice between fights.  And to compare this to the Jones/Rashad situation?  Come on, I don't think you even believe that it's close to the same.

GSP wasn't a Team Jackson product, no matter what that article bit says about him joining 'officially'. He went there on few occasions, bouncing back and forth between gyms to get help from others. I laugh whenever I read other articles and they try to say Greg coached him and brought him to success. Very funny. Greg has helped GSP with gameplanning in the past. That doesn't make him one of his fighters. Right now, GSP fights out of Tristar, so Greg should be cornerning his fighter. It's only right.

And yes, that reason is simple: Brand value. Who wouldn't wanna be associated with one the sport's best? Certainly not Greg, right? Get real. 

So if he wants to be associated with the best, as he apparently did with Jones, why isn't he cornering GSP for this fight then?

And no matter how much you try and argue it, Greg Jackson has helped GSP for his fights for the past 5-6 years.  Whether or not he had the label of "Team Jackson" printed across the TV screen, it is Jackson helping him out for the fight and in the cage giving him advice in between rounds.  Apparently GSP trusts him more than anyone at Tristar in the most important times of the fight.  There is a reason for that.

Because GSP is NOT his fighter. That's why. The most he can get is 'GSP's occasional gameplanner' when associated with George. We all know better.

I understand the whole staying neutral thing. But, it's still wrong in my eyes for him to not be in the corner of Condit on Saturday night. I'm not the only one here who feels that way.

ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - lol I spent 8 minutes waiting for him to call out ANderson Silva and all I heard was

"I'm gonna spoil the party because I'm gonna beat GSP"

"would you like to fight Anderson next?"

"agh agh sure, there is a long list of contenders that are waiting though to challenge me at 170"

You have a knack for posting in between Lilbrock's posts and mine.

yellow wrkahlc - 

Because GSP is NOT his fighter. That's why. The most he can get is 'GSP's occasional gameplanner' when associated with George. We all know better.

I understand the whole staying neutral thing. But, it's still wrong in my eyes for him to not be in the corner of Condit on Saturday night. I'm not the only one here who feels that way.

 

 

Ya but many will hate on no matter what he  or Jones say, so you need to take their comments with a grain of salt.

And he is clearly not just an "occasional gameplanner."  I don't know if you've even competed before but the guy that is in the cage in between rounds giving advice is the guy that you trust most.  You don't let the "sneaky businessman" in there.  Again, GSP is a pretty smart guy and there is clearly a reason he wanted GJ in there over Firaz all those years.

LilBrockonmychest - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

Because GSP is NOT his fighter. That's why. The most he can get is 'GSP's occasional gameplanner' when associated with George. We all know better.

I understand the whole staying neutral thing. But, it's still wrong in my eyes for him to not be in the corner of Condit on Saturday night. I'm not the only one here who feels that way.

 

 

Ya but many will hate on no matter what he  or Jones say, so you need to take their comments with a grain of salt.

And he is clearly not just an "occasional gameplanner."  I don't know if you've even competed before but the guy that is in the cage in between rounds giving advice is the guy that you trust most.  You don't let the "sneaky businessman" in there.  Again, GSP is a pretty smart guy and there is clearly a reason he wanted GJ in there over Firaz all those years.

Joe Sons nuts - 

LilBrockonmychest - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

Because GSP is NOT his fighter. That's why. The most he can get is 'GSP's occasional gameplanner' when associated with George. We all know better.

I understand the whole staying neutral thing. But, it's still wrong in my eyes for him to not be in the corner of Condit on Saturday night. I'm not the only one here who feels that way.

 

 

Ya but many will hate on no matter what he  or Jones say, so you need to take their comments with a grain of salt.

And he is clearly not just an "occasional gameplanner."  I don't know if you've even competed before but the guy that is in the cage in between rounds giving advice is the guy that you trust most.  You don't let the "sneaky businessman" in there.  Again, GSP is a pretty smart guy and there is clearly a reason he wanted GJ in there over Firaz all those years.

But he doesn't anymore. He even admitted to cutting his ties with Jacksons due to Firaz not getting enough credit as his true head coach, and GSP actually being a Tristar fighter.

Greg should be in Condit's corner, period. It's a bitchy move on his side, especially after the Jones thing and coaching against Rashad, who unlike GSP, actually was a true Jackson pioneer and originator who helped build that gym.

I think Greg's certain GSP will win.

Source that they cut ties?  Below is from Jan of 2012.

GSP's manager, Rodolphe Beaulieu, also proved the rumor to be false. While Zahabi has worked closely with GSP over the past couple of years, Greg Jackson has been the mastermind behind GSP's strategies and game plans since reclaiming the title back at UFC 83. As it appears now, it is clear that Jackson will remain as a huge part of St. Pierre's preparation while also a strong supporter in his fight night corner.

“Spoke to Greg Jackson...He talked with GSP an hour ago. They’re fine. Also, he doesn’t have contracts w/ fighters. He said nothing changed between him and GSP. GSP hasn’t told him any different. He saw the rumors and laughed.” ~ ESPN's Josh Gross

“The rumor is not true. LOL" ~ Firas Zahabi

“It’s not true.” ~ Rodolphe Beaulieu (GSP's longtime manager)

 

http://www.mmamatrix.net/index.php/mma-news/1078-despite-rumors-georges-st-pierre-and-greg-jackson-have-not-cut-ties

Greg Jackson from UFC 154 Countdown show:  "No matter who wins, the belt stays on the team."

If they have cut ties and GSP has nothing to do with Team Jackson, how come he nor Firas are correcting Greg?  I bet if Greg would have said the same thing about Jones vs Rashad he would have been corrected.  Hmmm, I wonder what the difference could be?

Shocker....no response from Joe Son's Nuts regarding his made up claim.  Should be used to it by now I guess.  "When there's nothing there to hate on a guy for, make shit up!"

SickEyeDiaz -  ^^^ kinda sounds like you with Nick Diaz, no?

Care to tell me what I've lied about or made up about him that was incorrect?

Don't worry, I don't really expect you to answer that question.

yellow wrkahlc - 

Greg not being in his corner will hinder Condit's performance.

It's bullshit that Jackson can corner Jones in the Evans fight, yet he can't do it now. GSP is NOT, I repeat, is NOT a Team Jackson fighter, and he never was. He would go there for occasional gameplanning with other fighters, but was never one of Jackson's guys.

GSP has now made Tristar his homebase, and Greg still talks like he's one of his fighters (when he never was). The best part is Condit and GSP never sparred together in the gym. The most they ever came into contact with each other was a simple greeting. That was it.

 

He needs to be in Condit's corner. Instead, he wants to play it as though he coaches both guys, just to keep his name next to GSP's. He may have worked with GSP in the past, but he's no longer affiliated with him. Be a coach, and stop acting like they were brothers.

LilBrockonmychest - 

So if he wants to be associated with the best, as he apparently did with Jones, why isn't he cornering GSP for this fight then?

And no matter how much you try and argue it, Greg Jackson has helped GSP for his fights for the past 5-6 years.  Whether or not he had the label of "Team Jackson" printed across the TV screen, it is Jackson helping him out for the fight and in the cage giving him advice in between rounds.  Apparently GSP trusts him more than anyone at Tristar in the most important times of the fight.  There is a reason for that.

Shogun121 - 

LilBrockonmychest - 

So if he wants to be associated with the best, as he apparently did with Jones, why isn't he cornering GSP for this fight then?

And no matter how much you try and argue it, Greg Jackson has helped GSP for his fights for the past 5-6 years.  Whether or not he had the label of "Team Jackson" printed across the TV screen, it is Jackson helping him out for the fight and in the cage giving him advice in between rounds.  Apparently GSP trusts him more than anyone at Tristar in the most important times of the fight.  There is a reason for that.

He is not cornering gsp because its gsp's call, and last i heard, he is not training at jacksons gym anymore, he ended ties with them.

George also worked alot with renzo in the past, and I dont see renzo claiming gsp is one of his fighters.

Nobody is saying jackson did not work with gsp, but I also dont think anyone considers gsp a jackson product, or a jackson trained fighter.

Everyone here in canada associates him with tristar.

I keep hearing you guys say GSP ended ties with Greg Jackson yet none of you have a source.  If you scroll up, I have a source showing Firaz "LOLing" about them splitting up.   GJ denied it and laughed.  GSP's manager also denied it.  Do you know something that those 3 don't?   It's like one of you Jackson haters post something untrue on here and 20 others try and spread it even though it's false.  You guys use each other as sources.

Regarding Renzo, when's the last time you saw him corner GSP and being the one in the cage in between rounds?  Absolutely not even close to the same thing and I'm sure you know it.  Nice try though.

Jackson said on The Countdown show that 'no matter who wins, the belt is coming to Team Jackson."  How come you don't hear Tristar, GSP, or Firas disputing that?  I'll answer it for you.  It's because they are a team, work together, and have for years and nothing any of you gossipers say on the internet can change that.

Shogun121 - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

Greg not being in his corner will hinder Condit's performance.

It's bullshit that Jackson can corner Jones in the Evans fight, yet he can't do it now. GSP is NOT, I repeat, is NOT a Team Jackson fighter, and he never was. He would go there for occasional gameplanning with other fighters, but was never one of Jackson's guys.

GSP has now made Tristar his homebase, and Greg still talks like he's one of his fighters (when he never was). The best part is Condit and GSP never sparred together in the gym. The most they ever came into contact with each other was a simple greeting. That was it.

 

He needs to be in Condit's corner. Instead, he wants to play it as though he coaches both guys, just to keep his name next to GSP's. He may have worked with GSP in the past, but he's no longer affiliated with him. Be a coach, and stop acting like they were brothers.

This should tell you everything about jacksons ego.

Instead of training his loyal student, he wants people to think gsp is one of his fighters.

Do you know how many years GJ has been working specifically with GSP?  5-6 years.

Do you know how long Condit has been a part of Team Jackson?  3.5 years

He is loyal to both and is staying neutral.  If he would have picked one over the other, you guys would all be on her crying about how he turned his back on the other.  I don't even like the guy but try thinking or doing some research before you type.

If GSP were strictly a Tristar fighter, he would have his trusted head coach Firas in the cage with him in between rounds.  Who a fighter, especially one of GSP's caliber, chooses for that job is not taken lightly.  There is a reason GSP wants Jackson in there over Firas or anyone else.

I can respect your opinion if you think it's wrong and we can agree to disagree.  But you said they cut ties and that is absolutely not true.  Just like people on here post that Condit has been training with GJ for 14 years.  That is also false.