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Tractor 30 Member Since: 11/21/04 Posts: 3276	Kevin Arnold - Absolute correct call. . You have ignored this user.

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FrankenBeans 2 Member Since: 10/16/11 Posts: 308	no immediate remach but JDS vs Velasquez will happen again, 100% You have ignored this user.

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FrankenBeans 2 Member Since: 10/16/11 Posts: 309	Tractor - Kevin Arnold - Absolute correct call. . yes You have ignored this user.

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DezzNutzz 41 Member Since: 6/26/12 Posts: 773	hmb - LAME. Cain was KO'd in 2 minutes. Rematch should have never happened. Getting caught & getting beat for 5 rounds is completely different. Maybe thats why Dana gave him the second fight. You have ignored this user.

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DaemonDragon 19 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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ShaqNoob - 1 minute actually. You saying that the rematch, which was not immediate, after tonight's result is one of the dumbest things I've read all year.

Well he's right, Cain only got this because Overeem tested positive.

Saying that someone who got KOed in 64 seconds then wins only one single fight (a win against someone coming off a brutal 1st round KO loss no less) has somehow "earned" a title shot, is just false. Cain got lucky Overeem screwed up, and that the HW division has no depth.

As for saying the rematch was deserved because of tonight's result, that's silly. Matchmakers aren't psychic.

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kevsh Member Since: 11/11/11 Posts: 1362	DanTheWolfman - I agree with original post but not what Dana just said on FUEL....said everyone was asking for it right away and IDK I got from the press conference that Dana said "not right now" but he certainly sees it in the future. You have ignored this user.

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gooddoc 20 Member Since: 6/15/10 Posts: 1566	If there is a mod that can change the title to "immediate rematch" rather than "rubber match" i'd appreciate it. My mistake guys. You have ignored this user.

12/30/12 1:58 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
game78 1 Member Since: 10/22/10 Posts: 70	Cain had to fight big foot he didn't get rematch right away. And junior should do same. Also overeem is next and I know UFC wants him to be next You have ignored this user.

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TEX4N32 473 Member Since: 3/10/12 Posts: 779	Barbasol - Cain had to fight his way back. Let JDS have a fight or two earn a shot. Right call. This You have ignored this user.

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DaemonDragon 19 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Willin - If injured knees = doing backflips during media workouts and backarches post fight then yea.. he was "injured." Love JDS but let's be real.

JDS got surgery after that fight. People talk about Cain having an injured knee, but he didn't get surgery. He was coming off shoulder surgery and a long layoff, but JDS is the one who got surgery after the fight due to an injury that occurred pre-fight.

I really don't think injuries had anything whatsoever to do with the first fight though. When JDS beats Cain, it will almost always be early on. And JDS does have a very good chance of "catching" Cain any time they fight.

After the first though it will be Cain overwhelming JDS the great majority of the time. But JDS by 1st round finish is always very possible, as well.

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Outlaw'd by Lytle 2 Member Since: 2/14/11 Posts: 6297	JDS was annihilated. Get over it. You have ignored this user.

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32Hunter 8 Edited: 12/30/12 2:03 AM Member Since: 6/16/07 Posts: 13494	yeah one fight for each then we'll see the rematch next new years. You have ignored this user.

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Immaculata 46 Member Since: 12/14/03 Posts: 21607	Good. I nearly had a heart attack watching this one. You have ignored this user.

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Kingfanpaul -
theshooter - Oh that's bullshit, the first fight was one sided in favor of JDS and Cain got a rematch.

There needs to be a rubber match between these two at some point down the road.

While I mostly agree with you, there is a difference between a quick knockout and a 5 round beating.

Difference is, jds survived and wasn't finished. Cain went lights out. Love both guys and would love to see a rematch. The right hand in the first stole juniors wind for the entire fight... Phone Post

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C4mac Member Since: 5/29/11 Posts: 617	If there isn't going to be an immediate rematch (I think there should be depending on how long recovery is for JDS) it would be nice to see Big Country get a shot. Roy Nelson with the strap is probably a recurring nightmare for Dana though so I'm not sure it will ever happen. You have ignored this user.

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DanGold 13 Member Since: 7/10/12 Posts: 85	With how bad Cain looked from the second round on, I think if Junior can sort himself out he'd win the rematch. Cain looked like shit, which speaks volumes as to how bad Junior was. Anyway yeah, a win or two, let Reem and Werdum go first, then a rematch would be great. You have ignored this user.

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ShaqNoob 34 Member Since: 7/6/09 Posts: 5311	DanGold - With how bad Cain looked from the second round on, I think if Junior can sort himself out he'd win the rematch. Cain looked like shit, which speaks volumes as to how bad Junior was. Anyway yeah, a win or two, let Reem and Werdum go first, then a rematch would be great. Umm the guy with the tattoo is Cain. Sounds like you're confusing the two. You have ignored this user.

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DaemonDragon -
ShaqNoob - 1 minute actually. You saying that the rematch, which was not immediate, after tonight's result is one of the dumbest things I've read all year.

Well he's right, Cain only got this because Overeem tested positive.

Saying that someone who got KOed in 64 seconds then wins only one single fight (a win against someone coming off a brutal 1st round KO loss no less) has somehow "earned" a title shot, is just false. Cain got lucky Overeem screwed up, and that the HW division has no depth.

As for saying the rematch was deserved because of tonight's result, that's silly. Matchmakers aren't psychic.

Cain fought Bigfoot on the night that JDS was supposed to fight overeem (Mir was the replacement). I think, by this point, Cain would have had another shot at the belt regardless. Although the HW division is starting to get a bit better, there are just too few guys worthy of the title shot. Phone Post

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SOO72 Member Since: 11/14/02 Posts: 5034	Let him fight one opponent and then get another shot, just like Cain did. Who else are they going to put in against Cain after the Reem fight? Who would make it a better fight than JDS? You have ignored this user.

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DanGold 13 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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ShaqNoob -
DanGold - With how bad Cain looked from the second round on, I think if Junior can sort himself out he'd win the rematch. Cain looked like shit, which speaks volumes as to how bad Junior was.

Anyway yeah, a win or two, let Reem and Werdum go first, then a rematch would be great.
Umm the guy with the tattoo is Cain. Sounds like you're confusing the two.

Cain looked shit, Junior looked like an amateur.

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kingkoopa Member Since: 1/1/12 Posts: 1383	Dfw wants the Mexican crowd. Cain gets quick rematch. Dfw wants to keep the Mexican crowd so JDS doesn't get a quick rematch Either way I hate quick rematches especially for titles You have ignored this user.

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PJ Benn Fan 57 Member Since: 4/2/08 Posts: 11240	Not an immediate rematch but let Junior fight silva for a rematch. I mean thats all cain had to do so it seems only fair. You have ignored this user.

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McLeod - Well, I agree I GUESS. That said, he hung in there and fought HARD for 5 rds after being basically decapitated in the 1st. He defended all takedowns up till then. He gassed as a result. The fight might've been different, so a rematch isn't a guaranteed replay.
But he should'nt have to fight more than once. Cain lost HARD in 1 minute and only fought once not against a top 5 guy and got a rematch. I say give JDS like a Struve and then rematch. That'd be the same.
If not, you REALLY gotta think they did want Cain as champ and don't want the rematch for other reasons.

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Dr. Cheffa 18 Member Since: 12/2/10 Posts: 962	When's Overeem fighting? You have ignored this user.

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Soul Gravy Member Since: 8/15/07 Posts: 2148	Dana will do anything to get and maintain Cain as HW champion, as he thinks it's good business for the UFC. Including engaging in what most would consider unethical behavior. Giving Cain a rematch but not JDS is an example of this. You have ignored this user.

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