UnderGround Forum >> Bellator is suing Eddie Alvarez!

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1/8/13 6:54 AM
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MMALOGIC Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^ I dont agree at all.  They offered randy a fight with Big Nog and Randy didnt want it.  He wanted to just leave and not fulfill the remaining fights on his contract.  That is a completely different situation.

As far as the "champions clause" as much as it's been talked about, zuffa has never excercised it.

1/8/13 6:55 AM
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Boycott bellator.  Boycott Spike.


I heard you're not a real MMA fan if you don't watch Bellator or Spike TV.

yes, and people arent real football fans if they dont watch the CFL.

1/8/13 10:00 AM
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Phil Cornelius - THERE NEEDS TO BE A FIGHTERS UNION!!!!......Randy get it started!!!

I love to hear how you think a union would help, not calling you out or anything, but just interested in how you think it would help , or if it's even possible.

The average contract of non top ten fighters per div is like 3 fights, unions dues even worth it? Even in eddies case, would bellator have it's own fighters union and UFC there own union ? Or one union for all fighters across all organizations?

1/8/13 10:13 AM
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Wade5000 23 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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WOW!!!
1/8/13 10:19 AM
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Idk much about the legal aspect of contracts and stuff but does he have to accept bellator a match? Couldn't he just say no anyways? Or could the UFC just counter offer again? Idk why he has to accept the technical match. Phone Post
1/8/13 11:55 AM
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"Looks like a top LW free agent was available and they offered him 250k bonus and 70/70 a fight, lol, Bellator said ok, that's not a lot, good job low balling UFC"

You know that Ben Henderson's official salary is 39/39, right? Frank Edgar's is 50/50. Explain how Alvarez being offered 70/70 is a lowball.


Because he is a free agent with another company willing to pay the same that doesnt have or make the same amount of money as zuffa

If you want talent when competing against another org you have to pay, zuffa shot a low offer and Bellator matched it unlike Lombard who clearly was offered more money and Bellator said no thanks with the quickness
1/8/13 2:00 PM
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i like how ppl keep bringing up randy, if they followed what happened with him they would know its two different things

1/8/13 3:31 PM
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1/8/13 4:28 PM
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Hopefully this all gets figured out quickly.

1/9/13 12:12 PM
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It is silly. Bellator should know that if they want to hold on to Eddie they need to do more then just match Zuffa offer,they need to surpass it.

 

The UFC is by far the bigger organisation. There Eddie will have more access to sponsors,he will have more ability PR to expand his brand, he will have better level of opponent and would generally be part of and organisation to offers more comfort and professionalism as well.

 

Nonetheless i do believe that Bellator is a league with great potential, Eddie would be a bigger star there if he stays and it would offer him more in the sense of job security. They have to match it with financial security though.

 

You cannot expect him to forgo a huge potential payout with his cut of PPV numbers (in the future though not right away) if you do not offer him more. Bellator is never going to make the succesful transition to PPV in the same way the UFC has done. Hence they either have to over him a gigantic cut of the PPV numbers on cards he will be competing in the future or they just need to make him a better cash offer.

 

He might still want to leave regardless but at least Bellator then showed to future fighters that there will to reward there champions and they are trustworthy.

 

This lawsuit is extremely bad PR and really not constructive for an organisation that is in the position that Bellator currently finds themselves.


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