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UnderGround Forum >> Can a fighter be worthy of the HOF without a title
| 1/11/13 8:09 AM | |
Flannerz
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Member Since: 8/7/06 Posts: 439 |
extnct1 - Ask Barkley if he should be in the NBA Hall of Fame without a ring... Basketball is a team sport though. I think Pride guys like Wandy etc should go in |
| 1/11/13 8:13 AM | |
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HalfThisGameIs90PercentMental
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Member Since: 9/24/12 Posts: 881 |
SexiestManAlive - Without a UFC title?In my opinion there might be a very small % of fighters, but to be in the HOF you need to have done something significant. 
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| 1/11/13 8:46 AM | |
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OMGClayGuida
Member Since: 12/25/09 Posts: 696 |
Without a UFC title? Dan Henderson walks into the Hall of Fame.
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| 1/11/13 9:04 AM | |
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thedirtyburger
Member Since: 8/22/12 Posts: 76 |
There are many fighters without a UFC title that I would put in the hall of fame over some title holders
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| 1/11/13 9:10 AM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 5689 |
OMGClayGuida - Without a UFC title? WTF guy, I already said the man holds the UFC 17 tourney belt. There is your belt/title bro. |
| 1/11/13 9:18 AM | |
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jpm995
Member Since: 11/1/03 Posts: 7009 |
I think yes. Pioneers like Igor V were the best before there were titles. Whats harder getting a belt or winning many tournments [some with 64 fighters]. Sak is a def HOF. Big Nog was an intrim belt holder but should be in the HOF because of his great non ufc fights. Wand is another hof'er in my book. |
| 1/11/13 11:47 AM | |
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UGCTT_El Pescadero
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Member Since: 1/16/12 Posts: 5008 |
Ya... For sure... Jeremy Horn is a great example... Dude has a serious record ... And has been In some absolute wars... Been around forever...Would be a travesty if he didn't get in.
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| 1/11/13 12:05 PM | |
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Zed Wayne Zed
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Member Since: 10/20/11 Posts: 1104 |
Yes. I think they would have to be a special talent, a great ambassador, a gamer, and someone who helped get people into the sport, but yes. |
| 1/11/13 12:09 PM | |
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chawkins
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Member Since: 12/14/05 Posts: 2577 |
GSP24 - You will see Stephan Bonnar in the HOF. This. There aren't a lot of ways for a non-pioneer fighter to make a significant contribution to/impact on the sport *without* winning a title. That said, Bonnar and Griffin will probably get in, as it could be said that they are the pioneers of the "new" era of MMA. At the very least, they saved the UFC. I'm trying to think of any other guys who have made sport-level contributions that would qualify as HOF material without winning a UFC title. I can't think of any right now. But I'm sure someone will suggest some. |
| 1/11/13 12:12 PM | |
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Flexo
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Member Since: 1/13/11 Posts: 2702 |
I'd vote J-Lau.
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| 1/11/13 12:13 PM | |
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myjawhurts
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Member Since: 4/3/12 Posts: 991 |
JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytleBoom! Never knocked out, never submitted, king of the FOTN world!
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| 1/11/13 12:40 PM | |
Dana Stern
Member Since: 12/6/09 Posts: 1377 |
UGCTT_mousetrap -No I meant Brock should or could possibly get in, BJ Penn gets in for sure without a doubt! Shogun without a doubt, Henderson, and I'd say CroCop for sure but his run in the UFC was so lackluster I'm just unsure about him. However Wands has been too and I say he is a definite in so...Dana Stern - I would say Bonner does not get in. I know that fight with him and Griffin was a huge part in UFC and MMA history but still has little to do with his personal achievements. I can't think of any fighter who hasn't held a title that should be in the Hall of Fame. Don't think Kenny should be either. Guys I think could be inducted in the future, Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, GSP, Anderson Silva, Wand Silva, Big Nog, Brock possibly, BJ Penn.You say rashard gets in and then say possibly Bj wtf.... I think I am too stoned
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| 1/11/13 12:50 PM | |
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SexiestManAlive
Member Since: 7/22/09 Posts: 1595 |
Devlin - just ufc or are we they allowing pridr belts as well aince imo wand deservea in the hofPride belts are reasonable. Hendo, Wand, Fedor etc. Fighters I was thinking of are people like Florian, Diego Sanchez, Lauzon, Chris Lytle, Bonnar, Nick Diaz etc. It's like should entertainment be a reason for consideration? Lauzon is a perfect example, look at his fights and " of the night" bonuses
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| 1/11/13 1:55 PM | |
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CLINTK9
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Member Since: 4/20/05 Posts: 7224 |
TANK ABBOTT! Would have been a 2 time tourney Champ had others not cheated too! |
| 1/11/13 2:02 PM | |
mdfmma123
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Member Since: 3/17/09 Posts: 465 |
Want, Cro Cop, Fedor, Sak
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| 1/11/13 2:06 PM | |
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mdfmma123
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Member Since: 3/17/09 Posts: 466 |
*Wand
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| 1/11/13 2:17 PM | |
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Winston Wolf
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33301 |
i think most here are too lenient.Id be stricter on who should be in .Fitch ? are u kidding me |
| 1/11/13 2:27 PM | |
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myjawhurts
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Member Since: 4/3/12 Posts: 996 |
Billy Joe Rottoncrotch -I'd say that he is a hof candidate based on his record, his FOTN success, his attitude, his style, his social conscience and the fact he did all that as a part time fighter. That's bad ass in my opinion.myjawhurts -JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytleBoom!
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| 1/11/13 2:37 PM | |
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kungfugrip
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 6322 |
Frank Shamrock is not happy! |
| 1/11/13 4:56 PM | |
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biva
Member Since: 6/14/11 Posts: 497 |
extnct1 - Ask Barkley if he should be in the NBA Hall of Fame without a ring...True dat true dat! If Malone, Barkley, Ewing, etc had been in any other era they'd be ring laden. How many current MWs would have belts on their mantle without Anderson? Fitch would definately have a belt with GSP.
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| 1/11/13 5:00 PM | |
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youarewhatiswrong
Member Since: 3/23/12 Posts: 1703 |
JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytle |
| 1/11/13 6:29 PM | |
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UGCTT_mousetrap
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Member Since: 6/6/12 Posts: 801 |
Dana Stern -Fair enough I was too stoned lolUGCTT_mousetrap -No I meant Brock should or could possibly get in, BJ Penn gets in for sure without a doubt! Shogun without a doubt, Henderson, and I'd say CroCop for sure but his run in the UFC was so lackluster I'm just unsure about him. However Wands has been too and I say he is a definite in so...Dana Stern - I would say Bonner does not get in. I know that fight with him and Griffin was a huge part in UFC and MMA history but still has little to do with his personal achievements. I can't think of any fighter who hasn't held a title that should be in the Hall of Fame. Don't think Kenny should be either. Guys I think could be inducted in the future, Forrest Griffin, Rashad Evans, GSP, Anderson Silva, Wand Silva, Big Nog, Brock possibly, BJ Penn.You say rashard gets in and then say possibly Bj wtf.... I think I am too stoned
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| 1/11/13 6:39 PM | |
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Tubarao
Member Since: 7/28/02 Posts: 8713 |
tank florian horn Those damn good suggestions imo 
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| 1/11/13 6:43 PM | |
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Mexican Janitor
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Member Since: 9/9/12 Posts: 401 |
Can you get in the NFL hall without a superbowl title? Sorry Dan Marino. Can you get in the basketball hall of fame without an NBA ring? Not happening Charles Barkely. Lol of course you can, ya boozo.
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| 1/11/13 6:44 PM | |
UGCTT_buchu8oolong
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Member Since: 7/21/11 Posts: 2523 |
JamesTheWelshDR - Chris lytleCame to say this, along with Lauzon when he leaves the sport (hopefully not for a long time)
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