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FJJ828 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 4235	I was always a fan of Ryan's BJJ. I was critical of his pizza parlor fight and remain so, but this letter was timely and very well spoken. Good for you, Ryan. You have ignored this user.

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Farthammer Member Since: 12/26/10 Posts: 239	Awesome letter. Worth noting that Hall and another famous BJJ gym owner both have had famous run-ins with nutjobs that was ended with BJJ...but only one of them has video. You have ignored this user.

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jaytrainwreck 3 Member Since: 9/28/11 Posts: 2075	Well written letter by Ryan Hall. You have ignored this user.

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Brabo Ben 15 Member Since: 5/4/11 Posts: 918	Sub for later, ryan is a class act You have ignored this user.

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hellride 75 Member Since: 1/23/11 Posts: 4345	Well said Ryan Hall You have ignored this user.

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disconnect 6 Member Since: 3/16/07 Posts: 341	good article. it's obvious he's referring to TLI. i mean, just look at: 9- You May Think You Know Your Coach, But You Probably Don’t ever notice how TLI capitalizes EVERY SINGLE WORD on all their advertising/products on the web? so annoying! You have ignored this user.

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FlyingSubsOnly Member Since: 2/23/11 Posts: 34	Good shit.. remember when ryan choked some drunk dude out in a pizza parlor, haha. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82384433/ You have ignored this user.

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falsecrack 9 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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The whole letter was awesome, and I hate quoting just a piece, but I found this description particularly relevant to my own life right now:

"Teachers:

A true leader creates other leaders. He desires not to dominate those around him, but to uplift them. Not to uplift them for his own benefit, his own aggrandizement, but because it is the right thing to do. A real leader doesn’t want disciples. A real leader hopes for friends who respect him for being a decent human being above all. After all, what other reason is there to follow someone?"

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UGCTT_sakurabas ear 51 Member Since: 1/13/11 Posts: 2167	In, cause condoning gang rape sickens me. You have ignored this user.

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1/19/13 3:38 AM

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Harry the Gimp - OK so rather than beating round the bush he is stating that LI is a brainwashing individual who has a checkered past and dodgy students.

Had an instructor like that many, many years ago - very charismatic, made you feel great, lied about everything to make himself immortal but when he was found in a locked toilet with a 14 year old girl everything fell apart and obviously he denied anything "you're wrong, its not what it looks like, what's your problem". He continues to teach his mickey mouse BS and lives in his own self-important bubble making money from the gullible and uneducated.

Hall's letter is about general situations where unsuspecting individuals can be taken advantage of, and his real-life experience with such an individual and a team. The specifics aren't as important as the lessons he's learned, and the way he wants to live his life going forward. I have a ton of respect for his take.

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EddyH 163 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 456	Great letter You have ignored this user.

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My cat is cuter than your cat 13 Member Since: 8/18/09 Posts: 231	I'm incredibly impressed with how articulate and well thought out Ryan is in this letter. Sadly, it will be ignored or misunderstood by the people that need to read it the most. But either way, I'm glad there are people like Ryan to provide a good role model in the martial arts community. You have ignored this user.

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Caddock 7 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I believe that in the long run Ryan's letter is more powerful without the naming of names. Sure he could have come right out and burned people with that. I feel he didn't need to and in fact it was better for anyone who reads it that he didn't.

We all know who he was with. In the near term context we all know who he is alluding to. There is no doubt in anyone's mind who he means when he says these things happened and he learned from them.

In the long term context, if he had named names, people could read that and say "more LI junk, that blew over and I don't care to read some take on old news." By not tying the letter to a dated set of events it keeps it timelessness and will work just as well in 20 years if people read it.

I am sorry that he learned some of those things, in that it is tough that people go through those things and learn the hard way. However it seems to certainly have helped shape him into a respectable person. Certainly expressing an amount of wisdom in this letter that many people don't get until later in life, if at all. Being a respectable person and learning those lessons early (I am sure he learned from other places too) will only help him the rest of his life.

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paganist Member Since: 5/25/09 Posts: 306	Check out the big brain on Ryan! I knew Ryan Hall was smart but that's some high level writing right there. Very, very impressive. You have ignored this user.

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Wade5000 23 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 2275	Ryan Hall is the man! You have ignored this user.

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