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1/19/13 12:45 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Winston Wolf Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33423	Brian J DSouza - "Coach to numerous UFC fighters is involved in rape case" ^Think about a headline like that attached to UFC fighters coached by Lloyd Irvin or his affiliates. i could give 2 craps about the headline when it comes to rapist scumbags raping kids You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 12:47 AM

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Winston Wolf

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SugaShaneDZ -
Winston Wolf - thanks for the post Suga

no problem...it is shocking to me that a man with such vast and wide connection on multiple levels of our martial arts community could have this happen and not IMMEDIATELY come out in public and say that what they did was wrong...oh wait...that limp dick pos wouldn't want anyone to dig in his past

Suga.LimpDick claimed he was limp.But the girl ( 17 year old student ) said Lloyd did rape her

1/19/13 12:51 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Brian J DSouza Member Since: 1/3/12 Posts: 377	It's easy for you to say when you have no stake in the UFC, no dreams of advancement, etc. You're angry, and that's all you have inside your head. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 12:51 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Cung knocked my ace out Member Since: 8/19/12 Posts: 1476	Castles made of sand.. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 12:52 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
ClassicMacGruber Member Since: 11/27/09 Posts: 363	Can you put a number on it? Exactly how many pro fighters do you need to come on and post something, to make you happy? You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 12:56 AM

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Winston Wolf

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Brian J DSouza -
It's easy for you to say when you have no stake in the UFC, no dreams of advancement, etc. You're angry, and that's all you have inside your head.

like i said how is speaking out against a rapist going to effect my career if im in UFC ? If it did so be it I guess u dont know me but i will always say and speak up for what I think is right whether it makes me popular or not.In this case I think everone would take the side against the rapist POS and his POS students

1/19/13 12:58 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Winston Wolf Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33426	ClassicMacGruber - Can you put a number on it? Exactly how many pro fighters do you need to come on and post something, to make you happy? i havent seen more than 2 posts from Pros saying anything bad about Lloyd.If so can u show me where the posts are I havent seen one from anyone in UFC Bellator or Strkeforce the 3 biggest American shows. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 12:59 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Winston Wolf Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33427	Cung knocked my ace out - Castles made of sand.. one of my all time favorite songs.Part of it was my quote from HS You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 1:24 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Brian J DSouza Member Since: 1/3/12 Posts: 378	UFC has taken a stand when its own fighters made jokes about rape. UFC is a business, an organization and a fight promotion. Maybe they'll run rape prevention seminars or do some other work in the future. Let's not write the organzation or its staff off just yet. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 6:19 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Roy Batty 50 Member Since: 6/22/07 Posts: 7365	Brian J DSouza - See the story about Ronda Rousey here: http://fightlinker.com/ronda-rousey-threw-an-alleged-perv-out-of-judo/ For all the flack she gets, and I'm not even a fan of her smack-talking persona, she deserves some real props for that. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 6:40 AM

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scubad

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Girl said LI did rape her, his students seem like they did rape a student, LI system seems to financially "rape" schmuck, weakling gym owners whilst LI gets rich. Just seems like a whole "rapey" system. When cash is king this shit will happen.
What happened to truth, honour, decency, integrity?
Ronda has more balls than most men.
She may have put her foot in it with the sandy hook vid link but no-one is perfect. She just has a high level (a healthy) level of scepticism the way the media seems to work these days.
I'll always wathch Honda's fights. She's skilled, tough, cool and doesn't bow down to twats like the Paedo in Judo like most folk did. The world needs more folk like Honda and less folk like LI.

1/19/13 7:17 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
artesuavesam Member Since: 1/15/13 Posts: 12	spartancs - Some guys do what they think is right and let the chips fall where they may, other guys run a self interest calculation first. This! You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:05 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Evzey 76 Member Since: 12/16/10 Posts: 1544	I'd also like to know why no MMA journalist has tried to look into this matter You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:10 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
GayGuardMooseSaucy 279 Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 9554	The mma/BJJ media and community would rather protect Lloyd Irvin (this site included) than get the story out there like it should be. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:17 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Winston Wolf Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33429	Evzey - I'd also like to know why no MMA journalist has tried to look into this matter flat out they scared You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:25 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
AK-BJJ 79 Member Since: 6/27/02 Posts: 3931	GayGuardMooseSaucy - The mma/BJJ media and community would rather protect Lloyd Irvin (this site included) than get the story out there like it should be. Yeah I guess the lesson here is if you tweet about rape you get massacred, but if you're involved in rape it's all good You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:29 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Winston Wolf Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33430	to use BJJ to rape demands speaking out You have ignored this user.

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Heel Hooker Edited: 01/19/13 8:33 AM Member Since: 10/16/12 Posts: 526	Pretty sad some will tweet allegations that the murder of children is a hoax but remain silent about a real rape. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 8:52 AM

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Fedors Jim Jams

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spartancs -
Some guys do what they think is right and let the chips fall where they may, other guys run a self interest calculation first.

there shouldn't be any calculation when it comes to rape and pedophilia. its the most clean cut issue out there as far as im concerned. there is no calculation or justification for these acts. everyone has at least a mother, a wife or girlfriend or sister or a daughter or a niece. its the same when its comes to pedophiles, we were all kids once. if you don't see and understand this point, i have to question if you are an adult. killers and murderers can be justified more than rapists and pedophiles can.

1/19/13 9:19 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku Member Since: 8/6/08 Posts: 21279	because its not worth addressing. the two that raped the girl. yes its bad but those guys are nobodies and it has nothing to do with mma. as for irvin so he was witn people that raped a girl 22 years ago. repeat that to yourself. 22 years ago. no rape. why make a bold moral stand about that now? what purpose does that serve. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 9:27 AM

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Fedors Jim Jams

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Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku -
because its not worth addressing. the two that raped the girl. yes its bad but those guys are nobodies and it has nothing to do with mma. as for irvin so he was witn people that raped a girl 22 years ago. repeat that to yourself. 22 years ago. no rape. why make a bold moral stand about that now? what purpose does that serve.

justice

if you won't fight for it, then you don't deserve to have it.

1/19/13 9:32 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
cheesesteak 129 Member Since: 11/23/02 Posts: 3824	It really saddens me to know that Lloyd will remain quite and the steam from a few days ago is basically dying down...I just hope people keep this all in mind and shun Lloyd and his products forever. You have ignored this user.

1/19/13 9:54 AM

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Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku

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Fedors Jim Jams -
Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku -
because its not worth addressing. the two that raped the girl. yes its bad but those guys are nobodies and it has nothing to do with mma. as for irvin so he was witn people that raped a girl 22 years ago. repeat that to yourself. 22 years ago. no rape. why make a bold moral stand about that now? what purpose does that serve.

justice

if you won't fight for it, then you don't deserve to have it.

what justice? are fighters all part of law enforcement. and i dont know the whole story but wasnt it investigated? rape of course is bad but if someone does somethung stupid over two decades ago and were investigated and or served their penalty they should be blacklisted for life?

1/19/13 9:59 AM

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Winston Wolf

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Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku -
Fedors Jim Jams -
Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku -
because its not worth addressing. the two that raped the girl. yes its bad but those guys are nobodies and it has nothing to do with mma. as for irvin so he was witn people that raped a girl 22 years ago. repeat that to yourself. 22 years ago. no rape. why make a bold moral stand about that now? what purpose does that serve.

justice

if you won't fight for it, then you don't deserve to have it.

what justice? are fighters all part of law enforcement. and i dont know the whole story but wasnt it investigated? rape of course is bad but if someone does somethung stupid over two decades ago and were investigated and or served their penalty they should be blacklisted for life?

in this case yes and please dont post anymore on this thread

1/19/13 10:11 AM

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Tom Lawlor 258 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Rape is a terrible offense and if it was indeed a gang rape attempt then Lloyd screwed up bigtime.
There you happy? Not quite sure what you are trying to accomplish but if just because someone is involved in the same sport as someone else doesn't mean everyone in that sport needs to comment on the matter.

By your logic whenever a McDonalds worker rapes someone then every McDonalds worker should make a statement on it.

I think we can agree almost no fighter is supporting rape just because they haven't been blasting TLi on twitter/fb/UG/etc Phone Post

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