UnderGround Forum >> Koscheck: I'm not a fan of Nick Diaz

"When has Nick Diaz displayed an effective sprawl???"

If you actually watched mma instead of running your ignorant mouth (talking to the typical tard, not my friends in this thread), you might learn something

Death Beast -

subwrassler - 

GayGuardMooseSaucy - 

nick diaz nut hugger -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:

1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz
2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one

You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying...

His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.

Karo took him down 9x
Diego took him down 5x
Riggs 3x
Gomi 3x

I like you and understand you're a Diaz fan but we haven't seen Diaz against a very good wrestler in a while.

lol.

hey man, when were those fights?

Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available.

Lazer MMA - 
NDNH, HTF did I know you'd be here bro? LOL

How was the B-day bro? Hope you tapped some @$$!

Birthday was great. I don't turn 30 for another year (29 two days ago), so that means I'm still allowed to be an immature asshole for the next 12 months :)

You got it NDNH.  But I do want to hear you try to reason your way to a Diaz victory over GSP.

GSP - the best athlete in MMA.  The guy who outstruck Thiago Alves, the guy who outwrestled + out-scrambledJon Fitch and Josh Koscheck, the guy who took down BJ Penn with ease when it was thought impossible.  The guy who I've never even seen caught in a submission attempt from the bottom.  One of the smartest, most methodical, talented and well-conditioned athletes I've ever seen in MMA.

And somehow you think Nick Diaz, the same Nick Diaz that was unable to stop Joe Riggs from wrestlefucking him, will beat GSP.  Admittedly, I think Nick Diaz is one of the most well rounded fighters in the world when it comes to finishing ability on both the feet and ground, but come on - this is GSP!! 

Kos is a dumb baby. Have you read his tweets? Or him saying he's playing everyone like a riddle? Or faking getting kneed, faking getting eye poked, eye poking everyone he fights. The ufc will be better off when he's done

"Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available."

Refused to fight Hieron or knew he'd fail a drug test/wanted bigger money fights? And when did he refuse to fight Woodley?

The word "refuse" doesn't mean what you think it means, apparently

Ooooohhhh once these .gifs are ready I'm gonna educate the fuck out of you NDNH

Diaz beats Hieron IMO and in a 5 round fight would beat Woodley.  We've seen Tryon's gas tank dwindle before.

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

nick diaz nut hugger -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:

1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz
2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one

You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying...

His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.

Karo took him down 9x
Diego took him down 5x
Riggs 3x
Gomi 3x

I like you and understand you're a Diaz fan but we haven't seen Diaz against a very good wrestler in a while.

nick diaz nut hugger - 

"Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available."

Refused to fight Hieron or knew he'd fail a drug test/wanted bigger money fights? And when did he refuse to fight Woodley?

The word "refuse" doesn't mean what you think it means, apparently

Death Beast - 

nick diaz nut hugger - 

"Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available."

Refused to fight Hieron or knew he'd fail a drug test/wanted bigger money fights? And when did he refuse to fight Woodley?

The word "refuse" doesn't mean what you think it means, apparently

Did he fight Hieron when he got back from that whole thing? And he didn't refuse to fight Woodley because he wasn't a big name? I know arguing with someone who's proud to hug nuts is pointless, but maybe you should be the one busting out a dictionary.
Refuse for a reason still = refuse.
And for the record, I agree he could probably beat both of them anyway, just saying that those are the only two wrestlers he could've faced recently and he didn't want to fight either. I believe a rematch with Riggs was suggested back around the time of the Hieron fight as well and Nick wasn't too thrilled about that either.

I know arguing with someone who judges another poster by his sn is pointless, but you seem like a nice guy even if you are a racist ;)

In the context the gentleman I quoted was using, he made it sound as if Diaz refused the fights because he was worried about losing to a wrestler, which is just not the case. Maybe he should have used "declined", but not everyone's a wordsmith or maybe he was trying to twist the fuckshit out of these rejections/refusals (you see, not EXACTLY the same word, fren) to make it appear as if Diaz was scared of fighting a wrestler.

Yes, Nick didn't get too thrilled when he was offered certain fights in Strikeforce because he knew he could beat the guys and didn't feel it was worth it to him. If people wanna criticize him for that, fine, but you, I, and most people without down's syndrome are pretty sure that he'd beat Hieron, Woodley, and Riggs (I know you didn't say Riggs but you don't seem like someone with down's syndrome :) )

nick diaz nut hugger - 

Death Beast - 

nick diaz nut hugger - 

"Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available."

Refused to fight Hieron or knew he'd fail a drug test/wanted bigger money fights? And when did he refuse to fight Woodley?

The word "refuse" doesn't mean what you think it means, apparently

Did he fight Hieron when he got back from that whole thing? And he didn't refuse to fight Woodley because he wasn't a big name? I know arguing with someone who's proud to hug nuts is pointless, but maybe you should be the one busting out a dictionary.
Refuse for a reason still = refuse.
And for the record, I agree he could probably beat both of them anyway, just saying that those are the only two wrestlers he could've faced recently and he didn't want to fight either. I believe a rematch with Riggs was suggested back around the time of the Hieron fight as well and Nick wasn't too thrilled about that either.

I know arguing with someone who judges another poster by his sn is pointless, but you seem like a nice guy even if you are a racist ;)

In the context the gentleman I quoted was using, he made it sound as if Diaz refused the fights because he was worried about losing to a wrestler, which is just not the case. Maybe he should have used "declined", but not everyone's a wordsmith or maybe he was trying to twist the fuckshit out of these rejections/refusals (you see, not EXACTLY the same word, fren) to make it appear as if Diaz was scared of fighting a wrestler.

Yes, Nick didn't get too thrilled when he was offered certain fights in Strikeforce because he knew he could beat the guys and didn't feel it was worth it to him. If people wanna criticize him for that, fine, but you, I, and most people without down's syndrome are pretty sure that he'd beat Hieron, Woodley, and Riggs (I know you didn't say Riggs but you don't seem like someone with down's syndrome :) )

GayGuardMooseSaucy - 

Death Beast -

subwrassler - 

GayGuardMooseSaucy - 

nick diaz nut hugger -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:

1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz
2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one

You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying...

His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.

Karo took him down 9x
Diego took him down 5x
Riggs 3x
Gomi 3x

I like you and understand you're a Diaz fan but we haven't seen Diaz against a very good wrestler in a while.

lol.

hey man, when were those fights?

Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available.

Ding ding ding.

I can only go on past fights since Diaz hasn't faced a wrestler in years, and when he did he was taken down as I stated above.

nick diaz nut hugger - 

Lazer MMA - 
NDNH, HTF did I know you'd be here bro? LOL

How was the B-day bro? Hope you tapped some @$$!

 

Birthday was great. I don't turn 30 for another year (29 two days ago), so that means I'm still allowed to be an immature asshole for the next 12 months :)

 

subwrassler -

GayGuardMooseSaucy - 

Death Beast -

subwrassler - 

GayGuardMooseSaucy - 

nick diaz nut hugger -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:

1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz
2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one

You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying...

His TD def % is 64, to put that in perspective GSP's is 86. Bjs is 76, Rory is 89, Kos is 63. So yes he's not horrible and yes better than his brother. His main weakness has always been strong takedown artists dude. He's about to deal with the best at WW at taking people down.

Karo took him down 9x
Diego took him down 5x
Riggs 3x
Gomi 3x

I like you and understand you're a Diaz fan but we haven't seen Diaz against a very good wrestler in a while.

lol.

hey man, when were those fights?

Hard to use a more recent example when Diaz refused to fight wrestlers recently. He avoided Hieron and Woodley too so not like there were none available.

Ding ding ding.

I can only go on past fights since Diaz hasn't faced a wrestler in years, and when he did he was taken down as I stated above.

ding ding ding?
wtf?


i think YEARS is the operative word here.

and yeah, my point was you are talking about fights that happened years ago. and we all know that these top level mma fighters never improve on any aspect of their game.

lol.
i remember gsp getting taken down and submitted rather easily by matt hughes YEARS AGO too.

RampageFitsLikeAGlove -

Can anyone name another top level fighter (UFC, Strikeforce, etc..) that has gone 6.5 years and 19 fights without facing a wrestler?

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

RampageFitsLikeAGlove - 

nick diaz nut hugger - 

RampageFitsLikeAGlove -

Can anyone name another top level fighter (UFC, Strikeforce, etc..) that has gone 6.5 years and 19 fights without facing a wrestler?

No, but I can find stupid little stats like that if I wanted to research other fighters. I'm sure there are big names who haven't fought kick boxers and jeet kune do practitioners in a few years, too, but I won't distort facts when it's just fucking chance/matchmakers/drug tests

But keep trying to twist shit, son. Diaz is SOOOOOOOO afraid of wrestlers. Nigga did you even see the gifs I posted from the Sherk fight?

And gayguard - Gomi????? Are you fucking serious with Gomi? Nick fucking worked Gomi and Gomi's wrestling had no effect on Nick

Nice try corky.  As everyone knows, wrestling is one of if not the most important base in MMA.  Your jeet june do analogy shows you have nothing concrete to provide.  Showing that he has AVOIDED wrestlers for 6.5 years is not distorting or twisting anything.  It's a fact that is easily proven.

Regarding Hieron, sure he is not a huge name, but he's bigger than Evangelista Santos, who Nick chose to fight over Jay.

So the wrestlers you've mentioned so far have been Jay Hieron and Tyrone Woodley, and you calim he's been AVOIDING wrestlers. With Hieron, I'm pretty sure the only thing he was AVOIDING was a piss test, but what do I know, if only I had a SOURCE THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON TO BACK UP MY SHIT TALK

Now that we've got Hieron out of the way, what is this nonsense you're saying about Woodley?

RileyPust -

nick diaz nut hugger - 

GayGuardMooseSaucy -

ChimpFL -

GayGuardMooseSaucy -  Not a fan of either but Kos beats Diaz with ease

You high bro?

Lol you think Diaz can stop his takedowns?

Back that statement up with facts, and remember two things:

1. Nick Diaz is not Nate Diaz
2. Sean Sherk fight was after Diego one

You're one of the coolest dudes on here, but this Nick Diaz can't stop takedown shit is annoying...

To be fair, Koscheck's double leg is incredible. Sherk's is comparable, but I think Kos would dominate Sherk in terms of grappling.

I actually think Nick would beat Josh, but I feel that his Nick's stance and fighting style would present Josh with a lot of opportunities to shoot the double.