UnderGround Forum >> DW: "I just have no respect for Frank Shamrock"

he has a total of 5 fights in the UFC, took off with their belt and tried to use it as leverage when they needed a star to help build the company and has talked shit about Dana/Zuffa FOREVER...but somehow he should be in the UFC HOF? gimme a break.

rockwell - 

cm81 - 

Ip Man 81 -

big_roy_fan - why does frank deserve to be in the UFC hall of fame?

he had 5 fights in the UFC then he punked out.. look at the track record of the other fights in the HOF.

Royce, Severen, Couture, Liddell, Ortiz, Hughes have all done much more for the UFC then Frank Shamrock, adding him into the UFC HOF would kind of devalue the title of "UFC HOF'er"

Frank Shamrock has no business in the UFC hof. Not that he wasn't a decent fighter, but he just wasn't that high a caliber fighter.

Wow.

Let me tell you son, as a 01'er... Back in the day Kevin Jackson and Igor Zinoviev were the Jon Jones and Anderson Silvas and were running over everyone.

Then Frank came along and ended their fighting careers.

So don't tell me about not facing high level caliber fighters. He faced the best of his time and completely destroyed them.

Don't you ever dare to rewrite history.

BOOM!

Now all the TUF noobs can STFU.

Frank was THE MAN in his day.

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vtfu

misclick

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

fucking idiot.. gargle bleach

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

inf0 - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

fucking idiot.. gargle bleach

 

lol nice tuck.

care to elaborate on jackson "the jon jones of his time" with his amazing 3-0 record? or what else he did in the UFC to warrant this amazing jockriding you guys are doing?

yabadaba -

One of the funny things about noobs is that they rarely admit to being noobs. They just argue their silly noob opinions on things they know nothing about and assume it's not obvious that they are noobs.

Ip Man 81 - do you admit to being a noob (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Ip Man 81 - 

yabadaba -

One of the funny things about noobs is that they rarely admit to being noobs. They just argue their silly noob opinions on things they know nothing about and assume it's not obvious that they are noobs.

Ip Man 81 - do you admit to being a noob (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Really dude? Because someone doesn't agree that shamrock should be in the UFC hof? Why don't you give a logical explanation on why he should be in there with only having a few UFC fights against the opponents he did? Your a Shamrock fan boy, and that's cool, I like Shamrock too, but you can't let that make u bias about the topic.

You didn't answer the question.

"care to elaborate on jackson "the jon jones of his time" with his amazing 3-0 record?"

That's a bit of hyperbole IMO but in their day Zinoviev and Jackson were the guys to beat.

yabadaba -

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

yeah, and? 

is every.single.UFC.champion in the UFC HOF? no, they're not. 

hell, Tim Sylvia defended his title more often than shamrock, had a better record when he left the UFC than shamrock and NOT one person on this forum/thread is will even consider putting Sylvia in the UFC HOF at this time.

riddle me that batman...lol

Mr.Negative - 

inf0 - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

fucking idiot.. gargle bleach

 

lol nice tuck.

care to elaborate on jackson "the jon jones of his time" with his amazing 3-0 record? or what else he did in the UFC to warrant this amazing jockriding you guys are doing?

 

Ask Tito the same question.

rockwell - 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

5-0 in the UFC and unquestionably THE BEST sub-200 fighter (as it was then) during his entire reign.

his entire reign? he was champ for a grand total of 21 months. he fought in the UFC for LESS than 2 years. and he wasn't the best sub-200 fighter at the time. i remember i guy named the axemurderer that was 11-2 when frank walked away and it could be argued he fought better competition and tougher tournaments, wait, no it can't, frank didn't.

Mr.Negative - 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

yeah, and? 

is every.single.UFC.champion in the UFC HOF? no, they're not. 

hell, Tim Sylvia defended his title more often than shamrock, had a better record when he left the UFC than shamrock and NOT one person on this forum/thread is will even consider putting Sylvia in the UFC HOF at this time.

riddle me that batman...lol

Tim Sylvia has the big win over Ricco but was submitted by Mir in his 4th UFC fight. Not sure why you want to compare him to Frank Shamrock.

rockwell - 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

5-0 in the UFC and unquestionably THE BEST sub-200 fighter (as it was then) during his entire reign.

Him or Sakuraba IMO.

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

yabadaba - 

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

He was 5-0 in the UFC. Nobody is talking about Strikeforce. 

yeah, and? 

is every.single.UFC.champion in the UFC HOF? no, they're not. 

hell, Tim Sylvia defended his title more often than shamrock, had a better record when he left the UFC than shamrock and NOT one person on this forum/thread is will even consider putting Sylvia in the UFC HOF at this time.

riddle me that batman...lol

Tim Sylvia has the big win over Ricco but was submitted by Mir in his 4th UFC fight. Not sure why you want to compare him to Frank Shamrock.

Tim Sylvia defended his title more times than Frank did. 

LOL at you bitch cowards voting me down.

Mr.Negative - 

lol at some of you mother fuckers on his jock.

he has zero business being in the UFC HOF. ZERO. 

maybe pancrase HOF, but even then, when he left japan and started fighting in the UFC/strikeforce his record was 14-7-1. 

and yeah, a strong case could be made for either sak or silva being the best sub-200 fighter at the time. 

but we all know why those fights didn't happen. frank shamrock greatly over estimated his worth and sat on the sidelines taking 2 fights in 6 fucking years, missing out on what was probably the prime of his fighting career.

yabadaba -

Ip Man 81 - 

yabadaba -

One of the funny things about noobs is that they rarely admit to being noobs. They just argue their silly noob opinions on things they know nothing about and assume it's not obvious that they are noobs.

Ip Man 81 - do you admit to being a noob (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Really dude? Because someone doesn't agree that shamrock should be in the UFC hof? Why don't you give a logical explanation on why he should be in there with only having a few UFC fights against the opponents he did? Your a Shamrock fan boy, and that's cool, I like Shamrock too, but you can't let that make u bias about the topic.

You didn't answer the question.

Proteus The Invincible - 
Frank's record began to worsen once he left Japan and started fighting in the UFC? Do you mean the organisation where he was never beaten and exclusively involved in championship fights?

never beaten in Pancrase? are you fucking retarded? he lost 3 of his last 4 fights in pancrase.

Loss 11–6–1 Kiuma Kunioku Decision (unanimous) Pancrase: Truth 10 December 15, 1996 1 20:00 Tokyo, Japan

Loss 11–5–1 Yuki Kondo KO (head kick) Pancrase: 1996 Anniversary Show September 7, 1996 1 12:43 Chiba, Japan

Win 11–4–1 Manabu Yamada Submission (rear naked choke) Pancrase: 1996 New-Blood Tournament, Round 1 July 22, 1996 1 12:44 Tokyo, Japan

Loss 10–4–1 Bas Rutten TKO (doctor stoppage) Pancrase: Truth 5 May 16, 1996 1 11:11 Tokyo, Japan

Mr.Negative - 

LOL at you bitch cowards voting me down.

Stop crying. I've been voted down on this thread as well. That's just the way it goes.