UnderGround Forum >> Dan Henderson: I won that fight
| 2/25/13 1:23 PM | |
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New Leaf 1.0
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Jons Forsberg -HexRei - it's not unsportsmanlike, but I do have to admit that if everyone fought like machida nothing at all would happen in fights Actually this being the best you could come up with makes the point that there was not much going on in the fight. |
| 2/25/13 2:15 PM | |
chaplinshouse
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| 2/25/13 2:17 PM | |
Kanabull
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It should have been a draw. The last few minutes were especially ridiculous when Dan stopped coming forward. It seemed he realized he needed to stop chasing Machida around and playing into his game. The rest was both guys basically refusing to attack all together. We didn't really see Machida utilize his usual "karate blitz" at all during that whole match. |
| 2/25/13 2:29 PM | |
subwrassler
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mchase126 -BuddyRevell -This agreed. and don't worry mr. revell, i won't ask you questions or touch you. :) |
| 2/25/13 5:40 PM | |
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bhealthy
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iwonthatfight!!!! is the new getoffmylawn!!!! |
| 2/25/13 8:32 PM | |
Chiron
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Cung Le, that guy that has more striking experience than damn near everyone in the sport, said Henderson won yet some of you retards think anyone who thought Dan won has no idea what they're talking about. Could've gone either way but Henderson was the one pushing the fight while Machida was the one avoiding one. The tie goes to the guy being more aggressive, and that was Henderson. But in all honest, I wish they would've just called it a draw. If you're not coming to fight then you don't deserve to win. Some fights Machida is more active and lands more strikes, and actually does well, but this was his 2nd most timid fight as far as striking frequency. He tried to play tag instead of fighting. It's amazing how delusional his fans are thinking he deserved to win this one. |
| 2/25/13 8:46 PM | |
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA
Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 18089 |
Chiron - Cung Le, that guy that has more striking experience than damn near everyone in the sport, said Henderson won yet some of you retards think anyone who thought Dan won has no idea what they're talking about.The striking wasn't a tie, so yeah... Also its called "effective aggression" and you don't get rewarded for plodding forward and swinging at the air (unless you're Leonard Garcia)
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| 2/25/13 8:50 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 6612 |
Chiron - Cung Le, that guy that has more striking experience than damn near everyone in the sport, said Henderson won yet some of you retards think anyone who thought Dan won has no idea what they're talking about. In fairness Cung is Dan's boy sir. Being though that neither fighter hurt the other at all it's the totals that matter only IMO. I think the fans need to accept the result. |
| 2/25/13 9:51 PM | |
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behrens14
Member Since: 9/14/10 Posts: 342 |
This fight was a lot like the Rampage/Machida fight except the split went Machida's way this time. I was hoping this fight would be more spectacular but neither guy really pushed it. Rampage won that split because he put a bit more aggression into it from what I remember, I might go back and watch it just to see how similar they really were. |
| 2/25/13 10:06 PM | |
Willy the Coyote
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Edited: 02/25/13 10:12 PM Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 9671 |
Lol wrong thread |
| 2/25/13 10:47 PM | |
melancoholic
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Jons Forsberg -HexRei - it's not unsportsmanlike, but I do have to admit that if everyone fought like machida nothing at all would happen in fights it actually IS a bunch of nothing. it's a fifteen minute fight and all the highlights i've seen so far are the same 3-5 gifs. i disagree that hendo won the fight, but i also think machida didnt do enough to earn the victory. they both lost imo and there should be a rematch. |
| 2/25/13 11:15 PM | |
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MMA6053
Member Since: 7/9/12 Posts: 78 |
Let it go Hendo. You lost..move on. |
| 2/25/13 11:46 PM | |
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PatrickVilone
Member Since: 12/5/11 Posts: 109 |
No you didn't bro. You lost the fight. get over it |
| 2/26/13 1:22 AM | |
Wasa-B
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| 2/26/13 3:11 AM | |
fob bob
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The Sauce - No one did, fans included... I want my hard earned money back uncle Dana ya bum |
| 2/26/13 5:55 AM | |
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kflinchy
Member Since: 5/12/09 Posts: 34 |
melancoholic -Jons Forsberg -HexRei - it's not unsportsmanlike, but I do have to admit that if everyone fought like machida nothing at all would happen in fights "i disagree that hendo won the fight, but i also think machida didnt do enough to earn the victory. they both lost imo" ever hear of a 10 point must system? please explain how YOU make a draw from the 3 rounds with out a point deduction =D. go f*ck yourself |
| 2/26/13 1:17 PM | |
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Rock Ortiz
Member Since: 8/3/09 Posts: 91 |
Willy the Coyote - Anyone who thinks Dan won that fight is delusional. He was outclassed on the feet, and his biggest accomplishment was sitting in Lyoto's guard for a couple of minutes. Lyoto landed more significant strikes, showed far superior footwork, and did more damage on the ground in 5 seconds than Dan did in two minutes. Outclassed? I doubt that..I didn't know footwork was part of the scoring system. If that's the case then Machida clearly won that battle. |
| 2/26/13 1:19 PM | |
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HexRei
Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 12564 |
kflinchy -melancoholic -Jons Forsberg -HexRei - it's not unsportsmanlike, but I do have to admit that if everyone fought like machida nothing at all would happen in fights You don't need a point deduction to have a 10/8 round. Just a judge who feels the round was very lopsided. |
| 2/26/13 2:04 PM | |
Wasa-B
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Rock Ortiz -Willy the Coyote - Anyone who thinks Dan won that fight is delusional. He was outclassed on the feet, and his biggest accomplishment was sitting in Lyoto's guard for a couple of minutes. Lyoto landed more significant strikes, showed far superior footwork, and did more damage on the ground in 5 seconds than Dan did in two minutes. Footwork is kinda scored in the context of octagon control and aggression but again many people that think Dan won are forgetting that aggression only comes into play when a round is close and neither is able to do much. People forget that aggression is ineffective aggression if a guy is coming forward and missing and getting countered. So Machida wasnt just winning the footwork battle, he was winning the striking battle because he was hitting Dan and Dan was hitting him. |
| 2/26/13 2:14 PM | |
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Mok The Ookla
Member Since: 6/9/11 Posts: 550 |
kflinchy -Can't a judge score a round 10-10 if they feel neither fighter landed any significant strikes?melancoholic -Jons Forsberg -HexRei - it's not unsportsmanlike, but I do have to admit that if everyone fought like machida nothing at all would happen in fights
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| 2/26/13 2:27 PM | |
Poindexter
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Domingo - Machida won, but I really do hate how passive he is. Rampage had the right idea. Get close and then out-wait him. Make it seem like he's afraid to engage. Machida essentially forces everyone to either have long reach or to fight passively.
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| 2/26/13 2:28 PM | |
Wasa-B
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^ yes, they can there are a couple problems with that though: 1) The judges rarely have used the 10-10 in the UFC 2) Machida landed significant strikes every round |
| 2/26/13 2:32 PM | |
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Mok The Ookla
Member Since: 6/9/11 Posts: 551 |
Wasa-B - ^ yes, they can there are a couple problems with that though:I don't think I've ever seen it in mma. I actually scored the fight a draw with machida rd one, Hendo rd two, and 10-10 rd three. I just didn't feel like either guy really 'wanted' it.
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| 2/26/13 3:18 PM | |
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Nexuscrawlers
Member Since: 10/23/09 Posts: 8505 |
as little as machida did, henderson did even less. no way he won that fight. |
| 2/26/13 3:20 PM | |
DoomFarmer
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Virus x - Hendo deserved the win . Machida was just running away all fight and landed a couple of nice strikes here and there while running aways. Lyoto should get passed over for a title shot. Chaels already said he wont fight lyoto because the crowd where booing him and I dont blame chaelNo.
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