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UnderGround Forum >> Judges did not factor in octagon control for Hendo
| 2/24/13 2:14 PM | |
Sherdoggystyle
Member Since: 1/8/13 Posts: 112 |
If they did, he would've won round 1 and 3 easily. This is why mma judging is completely weird. Sometimes octagon control is calculated and sometimes it is not. |
| 2/24/13 2:15 PM | |
Wasa-B
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 43491 |
You're weird. He was not in control of the octagon. And its always "calculated" but not exactly a science in quantifying esp considering you "calculate" it in context with other factors. |
| 2/24/13 2:16 PM | |
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MostLegit
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Member Since: 9/24/11 Posts: 831 |
If you a mosquito flies into a spiders trap, it may be going forward, but this does not negate the fact it flew into a trap. The exchanges happened when and how Machida wanted them to, and that's the definition of control. 
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| 2/24/13 2:17 PM | |
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MostLegit
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Member Since: 9/24/11 Posts: 832 |
If you a mosquito flies into a spiders trap, it may be going forward, but this does not negate the fact it flew into a trap. The exchanges happened when and how Machida wanted them to, and that's the definition of control.
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| 2/24/13 2:19 PM | |
Gin Tonic
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Member Since: 1/1/11 Posts: 923 |
I don't think Dan was in control of any part of that fight. And I'm a fan of Henderson.
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| 2/24/13 2:20 PM | |
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Smith1234
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Member Since: 1/2/06 Posts: 5954 |
Machida won the fight, of the top 20 strikes landed in that fight, Machida probably landed 18 of them. Dan walking forward (ineffectively) doesn't change that. |
| 2/24/13 2:21 PM | |
Metafour
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Member Since: 12/25/12 Posts: 80 |
MostLegit - If you a mosquito flies into a spiders trap, it may be going forward, but this does not negate the fact it flew into a trap.I think thats a very good analogy. 
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| 2/24/13 2:25 PM | |
MillhouseMMA
Member Since: 12/17/09 Posts: 1336 |
That's how Rampage got the nod over Machida. |
| 2/24/13 2:25 PM | |
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BuddyRevell
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Edited: 02/24/13 2:30 PM Member Since: 1/15/07 Posts: 7365 |
Lol what octagon control? If he stifled Machida's movement by pushing him against the fence or controlling him on the ground, then maybe. But Machida did whatever he wanted to. |
| 2/24/13 2:26 PM | |
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Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 9650 |
Walking forward does not equal octagon control. The fight, for the most part, took place exactly how Lyoto wanted it to. Every time Dan through a punch he was hit. Every time Lyoto landed a punch, he moved away quick enough to avoid damage. |
| 2/24/13 2:28 PM | |
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deadlysyn
Member Since: 11/30/10 Posts: 120 |
Umm before posting this crap maybe you should look at Hendo's face and Machida's face. If you put them side by side and ask anyone who won they would say Hendo just look like he got beat up, the Machida guy looks like he didn't even get hit. |
| 2/24/13 2:30 PM | |
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Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 9651 |
deadlysyn - Umm before posting this crap maybe you should look at Hendo's face and Machida's face. If you put them side by side and ask anyone who won they would say Hendo just look like he got beat up, the Machida guy looks like he didn't even get hit. My favorite part was in between rounds two and three, they showed Dan in the corner saying something along the lines of "He didn't do shit", followed by replays of Machida landing a kick, knee to the body, and stiff punch to the face. |
| 2/24/13 2:30 PM | |
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Captfireeyes
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Member Since: 3/28/10 Posts: 1049 |
In what world does walking forward throwing punches at the air while getting counter punched in the face equal octagon control?
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| 2/24/13 2:36 PM | |
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zath
Member Since: 10/15/12 Posts: 36 |
Metafour -MostLegit - If you a mosquito flies into a spiders trap, it may be going forward, but this does not negate the fact it flew into a trap.I think thats a very good analogy. Ditto - not every fight (especially at the title contention level) is going to be an instant classic. Winning was the name of the game last night; finishing the fight was a distant second to both fighters. A title shot is on the line; both men are at the top of the contender's list; both have proven they can finish top 10 LHWs; and finally: they both had months to game plan this fight. I guess I was surprised that people expected a different type of fight. Dan said he was going to limit Machida's movement and not allow him to counter, cut the corners, and pressure him the entire fight in numerous *pre-fight interviews*. He said flat out that he did not execute that game plan in the *post fight press conference*. So the analogy fits perfectly; Machida's game plan didn't win the fans, but it won him a shot at the belt. If he beats Jones (certainly looked possible during their first fight in R1!), the bandwagon will start up again. |
| 2/24/13 2:38 PM | |
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AlexanderTheGOAT
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Member Since: 1/28/11 Posts: 14219 |
He got out struck
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| 2/24/13 2:38 PM | |
hubris
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 106062 |
lol @ Hendo stumbling around = control |
| 2/24/13 2:39 PM | |
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Knippz
Member Since: 4/11/12 Posts: 213 |
So Sherdoggystyle agrees with Cecil Peoples? |
| 2/24/13 2:40 PM | |
HolyHackZack
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Member Since: 1/11/12 Posts: 290 |
Had money on Hendo. He lost, surprised it was even split decision.
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| 2/24/13 2:42 PM | |
Allen Hood
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Member Since: 12/26/11 Posts: 1607 |
Dan henderson won that fight but Lyoto won the dance contest
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| 2/24/13 2:43 PM | |
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Sajite
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 870 |
MostLegit - If you a mosquito flies into a spiders trap, it may be going forward, but this does not negate the fact it flew into a trap. / thread |
| 2/24/13 2:43 PM | |
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Sajite
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Edited: 02/24/13 3:02 PM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 871 |
double post, sorry |
| 2/24/13 2:45 PM | |
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Jons Forsberg
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 15458 |
hubris - lol @ Hendo stumbling around = control |
| 2/24/13 2:51 PM | |
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Leck Brosnar
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Member Since: 1/11/12 Posts: 1487 |
Did Hendo land anything significant on Machida? Any GIFs floating around? |
| 2/24/13 2:52 PM | |
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Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 9652 |
He landed a couple of good right hands. |
| 2/24/13 3:24 PM | |
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Newaza freak
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Member Since: 5/12/08 Posts: 787 |
Octagon control or being aggressive does not or should not outweigh effective counterstikes that land on its target,regardless of how little damage those counter strikes might produce. The only time (IMO ) that being agreesive counts for something is when everything else is equal,then the guy being aggressive should get the nod.
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