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Atama BJJ >> Is knee on belly considered showing off?
| 9/3/12 11:17 AM | |
Dag5
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Member Since: 5/31/12 Posts: 131 |
chitownbjj - I think he meant the andre galvao incident where he body surfed the other guy for trying a heel hook.Can some share the video? 
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| 9/3/12 12:37 PM | |
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andre
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 52548 |
How else are you going to distract someone with a trophy long enough to armbar them!? The knee on the belly is FUNDAMENTAL. |
| 9/3/12 1:35 PM | |
A_Butler
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Member Since: 8/1/09 Posts: 1294 |
Dag5 -YouTube Andre Galvaou vs Martin Suarez. Martin trains with me. I've known Martin for a long time. He trains at our gym, super nice guy. Laughs his ass off about that match.chitownbjj - I think he meant the andre galvao incident where he body surfed the other guy for trying a heel hook.Can some share the video?
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| 9/3/12 3:37 PM | |
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LetsTalkItOut
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Member Since: 9/26/06 Posts: 3553 |
Andre vs Martin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhcM4dntqwo There is another one used to be called Andre Globetrotter but i think it was deleted. Basically did what he did in the match but against everyone he was sparring with at a school after or seminar IIRC. |
| 9/3/12 4:03 PM | |
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PayItForward
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Member Since: 6/4/02 Posts: 13256 |
it is if you plan to use it on me. don't be cheesy when rolling w/ me and try and show off. keep it real and let me pass your guard and side mount you. |
| 9/3/12 4:50 PM | |
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mjm345
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Member Since: 4/29/02 Posts: 1473 |
Daniel/CGJJ - People who complain about pressure in jiu jitsu are whiny bitches and should stick to point karate. In the words of Rob Kahn: "It's FIGHT training. Smash him!!!" |
| 9/3/12 4:53 PM | |
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ultimatestreetfighter
Member Since: 3/28/11 Posts: 1031 |
knee of belly is okay. knee on sternum or knee on face is how i teach people lessons |
| 9/3/12 5:17 PM | |
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emu67
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Member Since: 1/11/06 Posts: 474 |
Knee on belly is a great position. Good way to put pressure to prompt movement to set up other finishes. Sometimes the pressure can be a submission too. Just don't go knee on neck; that's a little rude.
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| 9/3/12 5:25 PM | |
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ElPulpo
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Member Since: 2/25/10 Posts: 635 |
cocksmasher - Most of the time Id say no but it can occassionally be used to put someone in their place if they piss you off. This. |
| 9/3/12 5:27 PM | |
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303
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Member Since: 3/13/02 Posts: 13262 |
No, worth 2 points, and for someone like me who is 6'4 and 250lbs it forces my opponet to move do something that opens something up for me. |
| 9/3/12 7:00 PM | |
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dokomoy
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Member Since: 1/18/06 Posts: 376 |
Knee on Belly is worth points in competition, is supposed to be great in self defense, and is a great place to launch all sorts of attacks(mount and back transitions, chokes, armbars, kimuras etc). It doesn't have to be a staple of your game, but if you only use it to show off or "teach someone a lesson" than I think you're ignoring a really valuable tool. |
| 9/3/12 11:26 PM | |
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Wutang
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Member Since: 7/18/05 Posts: 6102 |
Knee on belly is a great position for many attacks. Most important in an close to even match it taxes your opponents' stamina. IMO that, by itself, makes the position one of the best offensive positions/tools you can use. |
| 9/3/12 11:29 PM | |
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Stephen Eakin
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Member Since: 12/20/09 Posts: 1209 |
Wutang - Knee on belly is a great position for many attacks. Most important in an close to even match it taxes your opponents' stamina. IMO that, by itself, makes the position one of the best offensive positions/tools you can use.Your Wutang style is mysterious, please teach me.
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| 9/4/12 3:17 AM | |
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estanmilko
Member Since: 10/11/01 Posts: 11487 |
Weirdly, knee on belly doesn't really bother me. Shoulder of doom is much worse. |
| 9/4/12 7:48 AM | |
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nogidavid
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Member Since: 1/13/06 Posts: 4412 |
estanmilko - Weirdly, knee on belly doesn't really bother me. Shoulder of doom is much worse. they're not doing it right. they should ask Mauricio Gomes for some tips |
| 9/5/12 6:05 PM | |
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estanmilko
Member Since: 10/11/01 Posts: 11488 |
I've had Mauricio's knee on belly, and some of his students. |
| 9/5/12 7:53 PM | |
cortXbomb
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Member Since: 5/23/05 Posts: 658 |
Diving for an omoplata from mount is showing off, I'd say knee on belly is just applying a dominant position. Unless you're spinning around with it. |
| 9/6/12 12:37 AM | |
dustyaguas
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Member Since: 10/2/06 Posts: 389 |
It's only bad if they're pregnant. |
| 9/6/12 5:44 AM | |
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Gwhite
Member Since: 8/3/11 Posts: 486 |
I didnt think so.. but now that you put it like that, i can see how it could be used to let people know whats up lol. After reading some of these comments, i realized i used to be put in knee on belly alot.. makes me wonder if they were all mad at me for some reason haha 
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| 9/6/12 9:25 AM | |
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allchokedup
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Member Since: 9/30/10 Posts: 2082 |
knee on belly is a go to for me. I use it often and it sets other things up. It gives me the best mobility while not offering a lot of options to escape. I dont think I would do it to a little guy but I dont run across many of those. |
| 9/6/12 7:47 PM | |
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supersaiyan
Member Since: 3/20/02 Posts: 38358 |
never had ANNY issues with knee on belly techs.. have done it as well as been on the recieving end. i rmr in class for kicks we did from time to time do the "surf" move on our friends for fun lol |
| 9/7/12 4:07 PM | |
Rick Screeton
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Member Since: 5/2/04 Posts: 2488 |
Its only rude if you reach down and slap the face and make kissy faces when you do it.... bu tthen it awesome anyways, so go for it! |
| 11/22/12 12:17 PM | |
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supersaiyan
Member Since: 3/20/02 Posts: 38431 |
i would have to confess its better than KNee IN/On Crotch...but i am just going on a limb here. |
| 11/22/12 2:05 PM | |
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Baroquen Record
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Member Since: 4/20/07 Posts: 17023 |
Not at all it is an absolutely necessary position. Now of course you can show off with it or abuse people with it switching sides and knee riding someone for a whole roll.
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| 11/22/12 3:29 PM | |
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aed333
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Member Since: 9/22/10 Posts: 31 |
Baroquen Record - Not at all it is an absolutely necessary position. This is actually a strategy that my instructor wants me to work on in order to work on. It might be abuse, but it's effective |
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