10 more min, Ryron would've won...

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10/19/12 9:38 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
KUIndustries 5 Member Since: 5/15/02 Posts: 13710	Lol I just picked people I know or will likely run into in the future. You have ignored this user.

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FCTV808 45 Member Since: 10/1/03 Posts: 60713	tjmitch - Moke, have you tried grabbing his dick? as anyone on the og would tell you, that's impossible, i'm asian. You have ignored this user.

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FCTV808 45 Member Since: 10/1/03 Posts: 60714	btw, i'm insanely enjoying the discussion on this thread. You have ignored this user.

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Moke 5 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33237	tjmitch - Moke, have you tried grabbing his dick? That just makes him "finish" even faster...especially if I used a fruit infused shampoo. You have ignored this user.

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tjmitch 126 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 74134	FCTV808 - tjmitch - Moke, have you tried grabbing his dick? as anyone on the og would tell you, that's impossible, i'm asian. grab where his dick should be? You have ignored this user.

10/20/12 3:53 AM

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TheAlchemist 6 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Moke -
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did he really need to wait 27 or so minutes before he went on the offensive?

I think he had the skills to risk it. However, Ryron is a skinny vegetarian beanpole. I think he needed to wait until Galvao burned a good deal of his energy and burned his grips first for a higher success rate.

It's a common MMA strategy too. BJ used to say he doesn't like to go for a sub right away and likes to soften the guy up physically and mentally first. That makes his finish rate much higher.

I'm sure Ryron was hoping Galvao would gas at the 12 minute mark or so giving himself more time to work, but really, 20 minutes isn't very long.

I just can't see that Ryron's gameplan was trying to "soften up" Galvao for 20 some odd minutes. Moke, by your own admission 20 mins isn't very long, especailly for guys of their caliber. Did Ryron really think that Galvao would be gassed and disheartened by him defending for most of the match? I don't see it.

But IF that indeed was his gameplan, then it was the totally wrong gameplan.

Ya I said that. Yes he would maul me in 2 secs. Yes hindsight is 20/20. I still say he played the wrong gameplan.

10/20/12 5:29 PM

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Moke 5 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I just can't see that Ryron's gameplan was trying to "soften up" Galvao for 20 some odd minutes. Moke, by your own admission 20 mins isn't very long, especailly for guys of their caliber. Did Ryron really think that Galvao would be gassed and disheartened by him defending for most of the match? I don't see it.

But IF that indeed was his gameplan, then it was the totally wrong gameplan.

Ya I said that. Yes he would maul me in 2 secs. Yes hindsight is 20/20. I still say he played the wrong gameplan.

I think you're pretty much right. I think Ryron them would have wanted the matches to be 30 minutes minimum. But like I said, sporting realities have to be addressed too. So I think he was HOPING Galvao would attack hard enough to burn out in 15 minutes or so, giving Ryron a tiny 5 minute window to attack. But it didn't really work out that way. But as I mentioned, I think Ryron was also trying to prove a point too...I think if the time remains 20 minutes for the next one, he'll spend more time engaged and attacking. These are just guesses on my part.

10/23/12 5:58 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Moke 5 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33260	I was discussing this match with someone who just finally saw the match on youtube. They said something interesting...though he said Galvao tooled and dominated Ryron, he said they were employing different strategies...one was fighting a battle and the other, a war. I think that was very apropos. You have ignored this user.

10/24/12 2:31 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
KUIndustries 5 Member Since: 5/15/02 Posts: 13712	how so? I understand the lose the battle win the war mind frame, well the war was ending and the guy lost the battle and claimed to win the war that consisted of that one battle :) You have ignored this user.

10/25/12 10:40 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Moke 5 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33273	Gracie breakdown of the match...I haven't even watched it yet. You have ignored this user.

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FCTV808 45 Member Since: 10/1/03 Posts: 60742	watch when i'm done losing more money! You have ignored this user.

10/27/12 5:57 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Haynmatman Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1546	I understand the whole "survival" concept, but that whole concept did not apply to this situation. the object of the game was submission and to win by submission, so to say that surviving in a sense is winning, makes no sense. had it been in MMA fight, does anyone think that Ryron would have survived? You have ignored this user.

10/27/12 6:27 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Moke 5 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 33296	He explains all that in the video. You have ignored this user.

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FCTV808 45 Member Since: 10/1/03 Posts: 60745	if a ufc 1 rules mma fight, it's very possible ryron could beat galvao there. You have ignored this user.

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