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| 12/21/12 3:11 AM | |
THE DEAN
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I do believe whole-heartedly in 'Enlightenment'. But Enlightenment isn't something you can find 'in the future' by creating a 'One World Government' or 'One World Religion' through somewhat nefarious and deceptive means. For nefarious and deceptive "means" eventually and unconditionally create nefarious and deceptive "ends". So when you go about things this way, you are moving against the natural law/laws of The Absolute(God). |
| 12/21/12 3:12 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71771 |
THE DEAN - I think the core values in these systems are the same, treat others as you wish to be treated. I agree. Hinduism has to teach something similar to Christianity because India is very very conservative. I believe conservatism is just the normal world order. it's an "ORDERED" world. treat others as you would want to be treated.. and most importantly DON'T DO TO OTHERS what YOU DON'T WANT DONE TO YOURSELF! All of these mainline religions seek to temper the primal drives like Sex/Violence etc. yet in the West they have been warped to make people think that one should be as liberated as possible.. which of course causes anarchy. |
| 12/21/12 3:18 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
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THE DEAN - I do believe whole-heartedly in 'Enlightenment'. I agree. I'll be the first to say that Christianity's weakness is that it doesn't address the individuals need for self actualization. but I find that Christian principles are good for the wider society. IT's morality is good for a societal standard. The way it works in Asia is that people recognize one set of values for society which is conservative.. but then on your own you can explore Taoism/Buddhism/Occult etc. The problem in the west is that they are seeking to impose these "freedom" beliefs in order to cause anarchy and chaos. And through Chaos, ORDER.. their ORDER. |
| 12/21/12 3:19 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Keep in mind, almost all 'Whistleblowers' who claim to have been or be 'programmers' within this group admit to having been 'programmed' themselves as a child. The are all programmed to believe they are working for the 'greater good' or 'divine plan' and that, often, they have to do bad things to bring about. No awakened teacher, Buddha or Jesus, has ever taught that philosophy or ever espoused any such thing. |
| 12/21/12 3:21 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71773 |
and when I talk about a healthy secularity or religions co-existing.. i'm not talking about a world religion.. or some mystery religion bullshit. I am just saying that people should chill and recognize the tradition in all of these religions. Like in Japan or Asia.. no one is consciously thinking about these things. During the new year they go to temple, make an offering because that's what they've done before and it shows some respect to the cosmos. at certain times of the year, they visit their ancestor's grave and clean it.. which is ancestor worship. When they want to get married, they get an APPROVED VATICAN CATHOLIC WEDDING! haha and it's not new age.. it's a healthy secularity that respects all religious and cultural traditions I believe this should be a goal. |
| 12/21/12 3:23 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
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THE DEAN - Keep in mind, almost all 'Whistleblowers' who claim to have been or be 'programmers' within this group admit to having been 'programmed' themselves as a child. cool. can you give me more info on this? like a book or some names? thanks! |
| 12/21/12 3:24 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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EVILYOSHIDA -THE DEAN - I do believe whole-heartedly in 'Enlightenment'. Yes, that's true to a large extent. That's why they complement each other, despite ideas to the contrary. Christianity is the external, Buddhism the internal. Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is Within". Buddhism/Vedanta addresses this and, in that sense, supports the teaching of Jesus IMO. Healthy mind, healthy heart. Jesus also said, "The dual-minded person is unstable in every way". Buddhism/Vedanta address that teaching as well. What Christianity does is compliment this by offering an 'outer expression' of the teachings and a sense of community. The 'New Age' teachings, as interesting as they sometimes are(I like reading about them myself), don't really do a good job of explaining or addressing the ideas of 'Awakening' and 'Community'. That is the biggest problem I have with New Age teachings. |
| 12/21/12 3:26 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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EVILYOSHIDA -THE DEAN - Keep in mind, almost all 'Whistleblowers' who claim to have been or be 'programmers' within this group admit to having been 'programmed' themselves as a child. Two that immediately come to mind are Svali and Dantalion Jones. |
| 12/21/12 3:31 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71775 |
THE DEAN -EVILYOSHIDA -THE DEAN - I do believe whole-heartedly in 'Enlightenment'. Yep. You know what you are talking about. That is why you're one of the best on this board. I too feel that Christianity can complement Buddhism.. but they should be kept separate. you can't run a society on buddhism/taoism, it's nihilistic in a way. Christianity is the active male element, while buddhism/taoism is the negative female element. both are necessary. In ancient China, Confucian Scholars had a great respect for buddhism and taoism. Confucian principles were used for the wider society and for their professional life and in their personal life they would escape into a mysterious realm free of the shackles of societal demands. this is healthy. In the west , the new age has placed themselves in OPPOSITION to Christ, CHRISTIANITY, CONSERVATISM and the LOGOS. when the reality is.. both have their place. But I argue that Christianity/LOGOS/MASCULINE needs to be stronger.. just as the Sun shines brighter than the moon. |
| 12/21/12 3:36 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Christianity has that contemplative tradition as well. St. Francis of Assisi, Franciscan Monks, etc. It's just been lost a bit over recent decades. These kind of people and groups have often serves as the 'moral conscience' of Christianity. Living a meditative life like Jesus or The Buddha brings wisdom. Mixing everything together, rather than allow them to compliment one another, is not always a good thing. Just like trying to take two separate sciences and mixing them into one unit cannot be done without sacrificing some of the most important and beneficial aspects of each. You can learn both, benefit from both, but also allow them to retain their unique flavors. |
| 12/21/12 3:40 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71777 |
^ yep good post! You get it! it's like these mystery new age guys want to fuse the male and female into 1.. which is crazy to me. the male and female complement each other... they should not be fused into 1 being. and it's not a surprise they are pushing the androgyny agenda BIG TIME. Yep. this mixing and matching stuff doesn't work. they are all separate, but complement each other to produce wonderful synergistic effects! |
| 12/21/12 3:44 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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The fact is, creating a 'one world this' or 'one world that' won't benefit anybody in the long run. Human nature is as it is and will manifest itself no matter what you try to brainwashing people into making of it. No wisdom comes from brainwashing people into thinking like everybody else. A 'One World Anything' will only, eventually, breed resentment and distrust. It's man's nature to see himself as 'different' and learn to love other people despite those 'external differences'. If you remove those 'external differences', you create and state of complicity and ignorance. Quite the opposite of what most people would assume they are creating(utopia). |
| 12/21/12 3:49 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71779 |
It's man's nature to see himself as 'different' and learn to love other people despite those 'external differences'. --- yep. this is the key. UNITY in DIVERSITY. our differences is what makes life beautiful. Even inequality is the natural state of affairs! a one world govt. violates the basic biological principle of diversity. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket. |
| 12/21/12 3:51 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
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| 12/21/12 3:51 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Edited: 12/21/12 3:52 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9408 |
EVILYOSHIDA - ^ yep good post! You get it!
It's actually kind of twisted when you think about it. |
| 12/21/12 3:55 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Edited: 12/21/12 3:58 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9409 |
EVILYOSHIDA -
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| 12/21/12 4:02 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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EVILYOSHIDA -
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| 12/21/12 4:09 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Edited: 12/21/12 4:18 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9411 |
I'm pretty sure 'The Expendables' is occult code.
Or, at least, that's what I feel like the above poster is trying to communicate to the audience. |
| 12/21/12 4:17 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71783 |
THE DEAN -EVILYOSHIDA - hahaha. iT's all crap. The occultists are mamas boys. NOtice in this picture.. it's all maternal stuff. Snakes/serpents.. Female as the representation of divine knowledge. they are mama worshippers! the catholic church has both male and female elements.. the fatherly pope and the divine virgin mother! separate entitites but complementary. |
| 12/21/12 4:17 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71784 |
it's pretty funny that these guys are so out of balance.. because they have placed themselves in direct opposition to Christ, LOGOS, APOLLO or ZEUS. so their imagery is very very negative and feminine. |
| 12/21/12 4:18 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71785 |
wow @ the expendables... they are trying to slip this crap everywhere. Egyptian winged disk. these people celebrate death. |
| 12/21/12 4:24 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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In Buddhism and Vedanta, these things(psychic abilities, inter-dimensional traveling, attachment to symbols/sigils) are often views as a 'trap'. They are discouraged. |
| 12/21/12 4:27 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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Edited: 12/21/12 4:28 AM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 9413 |
In their own way, they are manifestations/magnifications of the 'ego' and pull people away from the present moment and their everyday awareness. |
| 12/21/12 4:29 AM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 71787 |
THE DEAN - In Buddhism and Vedanta, these things(psychic abilities, inter-dimensional traveling, attachment to symbols/sigils) are often views as a 'trap'. Cool. Are there any books that discuss these things as being traps. I would like to read up on it. Thanks! |
| 12/21/12 4:39 AM | |
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THE DEAN
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EVILYOSHIDA -THE DEAN - In Buddhism and Vedanta, these things(psychic abilities, inter-dimensional traveling, attachment to symbols/sigils) are often views as a 'trap'. Not sure, most of them just address it in passing. But almost all good teachers who's books I've read over the last 15-20 years recommend ignoring those things if they are stumbled across. In fact, I don't know of any 'awakened' writer/teacher who recommends getting involved in them. New Age and Occult philosophies, on the other hand, often teach people to become interested in such things. |
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