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OtherGround Forum >> LOL @ Larry Birds trashtalking
| 6/15/12 1:12 PM | |
Fake Pie
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Member Since: 12/2/05 Posts: 37023 |
BigWilliam - I will always remember Larry's last 3 point shooting title at the all star game. He needed to hit the very last shot to win. He fires the shot, turns and raises one finger into the air and never looked back as the ball snapped through the rim, nothing but twine. He didn't even need to see it go in to claim victory, he just knew. He watched it go in. Where would guys in the modern era be if traveling were enforced? |
| 6/15/12 1:22 PM | |
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Samoa
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It's interesting to hear a lot of people my age talk about how the players now don't really know how to play. Did athleticism an coaching and attitude reach a prime optimal peak in the 80's - 90's? I guess I'm one of the few that believe that the greatest players of "now" would have been among the greatest players "then". Take LeBron and put him in the 80's. There is no über-hype coming out of high school. There isn't the degree of over commercialization and endorsement flooding. His ego doesn't get the food it needs to get to where it is today. He gets coaches by a Chuck Daley or young Phil Jackson. It's all hypothetical ( as is the thought that he wouldn't be in the elite ) but I believe that he would have been among the elite then. 
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| 6/15/12 1:25 PM | |
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Samoa
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Where would the players of today be if they enforced traveling? The same place McHale would be if they enforced traveling on his "pivot"I've where he would essentially reposition BOTH feet as he spun around the defender towards the hoop. The answer is that the players would adapt to the officiating just as they have adapted to the referees NOT calling it.
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| 6/15/12 1:38 PM | |
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TravenBJJ
Member Since: 6/22/05 Posts: 37789 |
blacksamurai -TravenBJJ - funny thing is. For James to be such a better athlete they averaged the same steals and blocks per gameSkills and athleticism you know are not the same those two guys don't even score in the same fashion... Notice I did not say scoring |
| 6/15/12 1:45 PM | |
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Mr.Negative
Member Since: 9/13/02 Posts: 20283 |
Samoa - It's interesting to hear a lot of people my age talk about how the players now don't really know how to play. Did athleticism an coaching and attitude reach a prime optimal peak in the 80's - 90's? I guess I'm one of the few that believe that the greatest players of "now" would have been among the greatest players "then". of course LeBron would have come up different if he had played in the 80's/90's. but thats not what we're talking about. prime LB or Magic is almost as physically talented as lebron and lightyears ahead of him in the mental aspect of the game. And they played in an era that was much more physical with far tougher fouls committed than what we see today. i mean, given the lebron we know TODAY, how do you think he would react to getting hacked up by laimbeer or michael cooper every single time he tried to get into the low post? the lebron we know would give up mentally... |
| 6/15/12 1:48 PM | |
MakeMeBleed
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| 6/15/12 1:51 PM | |
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Samoa
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Players from different eras play to the era. LeBron would probably struggle if you teleported him back to 1990. How do you think LB would do if you teleported him in to today's game where the players have über egos and flat out refuse to play team ball or stay within the sets? Would he be able to take games over when you don't have players with McHale and Parish' team mindset and willingness to sacrifice stats for team success? I think the players of the 80's - 90's would experience shit that would make them perform lower than they did if they were teleported into today.
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| 6/15/12 2:00 PM | |
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JasonJ
Edited: 06/15/12 2:05 PM Member Since: 3/18/10 Posts: 1809 |
zone defense was illegal back then. You could clear the court and play a 1-4 iso and many other plays. No zone, no 3 seconds in the paint, no drawing charges near the basket. lol @ these rules. LeBron would be unstoppable. And big lol @ Larry Bird and Magic Johnson being almost as physically talented as LBJ. The blind hatred of LBJ is strong. |
| 6/15/12 2:04 PM | |
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Nuckin Futs
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Edited: 06/15/12 2:05 PM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13835 |
The statement that players now days don't know how to play the game the right way is a very legit statement. Watch any of the old classic teams and notice the ball movement, the sets, the sharing and notice how many knew how to shoot from all over the court. What happened is ESPN showing nothing but highlight dunks all the time and kids want to be all about the one vs one flashy moves. Jack up threes or go to the hole is the mentality of a majority of players now. The European players have been successful because they play more of the old school all around game. I personally like to watch basketball played when teams play as teams and less concerned about the next shoe deal. |
| 6/15/12 2:07 PM | |
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Nuckin Futs
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13836 |
JasonJ - zone defense was illegal back then. You could clear the court and play a 1-4 iso and many other plays. No zone, no 3 seconds in the paint, no drawing charges near the basket. lol @ these rules. LeBron would be unstoppable. Hand checks were legal though. Man to Man was played way different back then. |
| 6/15/12 2:10 PM | |
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icedog11
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Edited: 06/15/12 2:15 PM Member Since: 6/9/05 Posts: 6696 Gladiator Mouthguards, president/principal |
Mr.Negative -Samoa - It's interesting to hear a lot of people my age talk about how the players now don't really know how to play. Did athleticism an coaching and attitude reach a prime optimal peak in the 80's - 90's? I guess I'm one of the few that believe that the greatest players of "now" would have been among the greatest players "then". It's well-documented that Shaquille O'Neal has high standards for coaches. Typically, it takes one of iconic status such as Pat Riley or Phil Jackson to impress him. That makes his praise of LeBron James that much more notable. "His basketball IQ is phenomenal," O'Neal said of James. "He could coach in the NBA right now." The 24-year-old James has impressed O'Neal with his thorough knowledge of the game -- his understanding of angles, of defensive principles, of how to set up teammates, of how opponents defend various plays and players, and of not only his own responsibilities on the court but those of all his teammates as well. O'Neal hasn't talked about who's better between James and his former Los Angeles Lakers teammate, Kobe Bryant. But he has told confidantes that James has the advantage in basketball IQ, saying he's the smartest star he's played with in his 18-year career. James was flattered by O'Neal's comments, but noncommittal on his coaching future. "I've never thought about coaching before," James said. "I just know the game and have always been a student of the game." |
| 6/15/12 2:18 PM | |
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icedog11
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Member Since: 6/9/05 Posts: 6697 Gladiator Mouthguards, president/principal |
The Thread Killer -JasonJ - lol @ these rules. LeBron would be unstoppable. The real question would be with the difference in the way the games were called, how would any of the player back then deal with a hard foul from Lebron James. |
| 6/15/12 2:20 PM | |
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temujen
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Member Since: 1/20/11 Posts: 241 |
In! There are few times in life where "merry fucking Christmas is an OK thing to say, but that's one of them. I wish every year at the end of the season, the basketball and football leagues would release a DVD of all the trash-talking/play-calling that takes place on the court.
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| 6/15/12 2:20 PM | |
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blacksamurai
Member Since: 4/11/05 Posts: 475 |
JasonJ - zone defense was illegal back then. You could clear the court and play a 1-4 iso and many other plays. No zone, no 3 seconds in the paint, no drawing charges near the basket. lol @ these rules. LeBron would be unstoppable.No 3 seconds would've hurt Lebron imagine Robert Parish or Bill lambeer anchored in the paint
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| 6/15/12 2:23 PM | |
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glass neck
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Member Since: 12/10/07 Posts: 241 |
to be honest, i havent watched nba regularly since like 94 is it that much different? |
| 6/15/12 2:25 PM | |
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Nuckin Futs
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Edited: 06/15/12 2:26 PM Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13838 |
Could Lebron have played in the 80's and dominate? Why hell yea, the guy is a fucking freak of nature. But I think Bird and Magic would be able to play in today's game also. I think it would have actually been harder on Lebron back then as it would be on Magic and Bird now. |
| 6/15/12 2:29 PM | |
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CMX
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travelling has never been called, Mchale , Olajuwan, ewing, Wilkins amongst others could of been called for travelling every time they touched the ball 
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| 6/15/12 2:41 PM | |
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Tedrow
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Fathead D -WordTedrow -Fathead D -Shoals <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>Tedrow - I'm from the same area as Bird and he has always been known for his trash talking abilities. My father in law actually got in a fight with him in a pick up game. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
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| 6/15/12 2:44 PM | |
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AlexanderTheGOAT
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Member Since: 1/28/11 Posts: 7790 |
MakeMeBleed -Fucking awesome
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| 6/15/12 3:19 PM | |
Cotton
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Member Since: 5/30/05 Posts: 43931 |
JasonJ - zone defense was illegal back then. You could clear the court and play a 1-4 iso and many other plays. No zone, no 3 seconds in the paint, no drawing charges near the basket. lol @ these rules. LeBron would be unstoppable. Not sure if serious. |
| 6/15/12 3:28 PM | |
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jct71
Member Since: 8/22/07 Posts: 7714 |
lol at laimbeer being too physical for lebron, sure alot more was let go back then but it goes both ways. |
| 6/15/12 3:31 PM | |
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ajjr0ller
Member Since: 8/14/09 Posts: 8558 |
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| 6/15/12 3:35 PM | |
SleepBomb
Member Since: 10/1/11 Posts: 5163 |
AlexanderTheGOAT -lol, i am fucking dying over hereMakeMeBleed -Fucking awesome |
| 6/15/12 3:40 PM | |
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Cotton
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Edited: 06/15/12 3:40 PM Member Since: 5/30/05 Posts: 43933 |
Lebron would dominate back in the 80's but so would Bird and Magic today. You are talking about 2 guys who are probably in the top 10 all-time. They can play in any era. |
| 6/15/12 3:42 PM | |
BIGWHITESEXY
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Member Since: 12/20/05 Posts: 34485 |
TOP THREE JORDAN BIRD WILT ANYONE SAYS DIFFERENT IS A HOMO. |
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