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11/28/12 11:05 AM
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The Popeye - I dont see Jax KILLING Tig or turning him over.

I feel sorry for Tig, he has never done anything except what he was told to do or what he thought he had to do for the club.

He has never worked with the feds never betrayed anyone.

Yeah he killed Opie's wife because he blindly listed to Clay and then didn't bother to make sure it was him in the car. Then he got his own daughter killed as well as Opie because he couldn't wait to fly off half cocked before getting more info after Clay got shot.
11/28/12 11:15 AM
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Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

People sometimes sell goods for more than they paid to acquire the items. The money gained is called profit. It is sometimes preceded by a ? Profit can be used to purchase additional goods. Perhaps that is Hamas' angle.

Has Hamas ever been known to sell guns? Have they ever been known to be able to smuggle anything to the west coast of America? They do all they can to smuggle things IN past the Israelis and Egyptians from their relatively nearby neighbors.
11/28/12 11:17 AM
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Little bit of a let down for me in the sense that I expected a more climactic episode with some more closure/new problems (For whatever reason I had it stuck in my head that they would use the season finale as a bit of a easing episode, I'm an idiot)

Although I will say I enjoyed the episode, loved the entire scene with Clay having his ink removed, I always enjoy the last couple minutes of the episodes as they tend to have decent music to set the mood.

I am curious if Jax makes a play to kill Pope, whether it's to save Tig or not I dunno but I find myself feeling bad for Tig which is pretty weird considering how I didn't care for him in the beginning of the season (Suppose it's because he's stuck to his word and backed Jax up every step)

That scene where Jax was talking to Pope's right hand man and he said something about how that guy was loyal and "patient" makes me wonder if he realizes he would be the one to take over for Pope, or that he was feeling him out to see if that's what he wants.

Logic says Pope is too big of a player for Jax to get away with killing, but perhaps instigating some sort of internal conflict on Pope's side ("by proxy"), to cause someone from within Pope's ranks to put a bullet in him (this would completely ignore his little "assassins waiting to collect on a contract" failsafe).

Either way, thought they tried to cram a BUNCH into that episode, almost too much, but I enjoyed it.

11/28/12 11:55 AM
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LOL @ Jimmy just offering up half a mil.
11/28/12 12:19 PM
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Fake Pie - LOL @ Jimmy just offering up half a mil.

Every time I start to like him, or feel like he has been part of the cast since the beginning, he does or says something that makes me think he is planning some stuff.
11/28/12 1:33 PM
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Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

People sometimes sell goods for more than they paid to acquire the items. The money gained is called profit. It is sometimes preceded by a ? Profit can be used to purchase additional goods. Perhaps that is Hamas' angle.

Has Hamas ever been known to sell guns? Have they ever been known to be able to smuggle anything to the west coast of America? They do all they can to smuggle things IN past the Israelis and Egyptians from their relatively nearby neighbors.

I felt the same way when the Russians on the show had to buy guns from the IRA. Really? The Russians who are mostly ex-KGB and had keys to every vault and armory in the collapsed Soviet Union? They had to get guns from a bunch of car bombers?
11/28/12 1:48 PM
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Did anyone else notice how bad a time Jax was having in trying to choke back his accent in this episode?
11/28/12 2:38 PM
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LoganClark -
Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

People sometimes sell goods for more than they paid to acquire the items. The money gained is called profit. It is sometimes preceded by a ? Profit can be used to purchase additional goods. Perhaps that is Hamas' angle.
I always thought it odd that the Guns were coming from the Irish to Americans in the first place...Where they meant to have come from Ireland or we the Irish the go between with Libya and the Sons? Phone Post
11/28/12 2:49 PM
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LoganClark -
Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

People sometimes sell goods for more than they paid to acquire the items. The money gained is called profit. It is sometimes preceded by a ? Profit can be used to purchase additional goods. Perhaps that is Hamas' angle.
I always thought it odd that the Guns were coming from the Irish to Americans in the first place...Where they meant to have come from Ireland or we the Irish the go between with Libya and the Sons? Phone Post

That was always a joke, especially when it was just handguns and AKs. We have so many more millions of those readily available in the US it isn't even funny. No need to go outside the country for basic stuff like that. US is a gun supplier not buyer.
11/28/12 2:56 PM
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This has become the "Twilight" for outlaw bikers. Team Clay vs. Team Jax!
11/28/12 3:21 PM
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Can someone refresh my memory on a few things...

-What was the deal Bobby cut with Clay? I know it was last week but I forgot and they didn't show it in the pre-show recap.

-What were the documents Clay gave Gemma?

Also, what the f was with the Cartel ambush out of nowhere? Maybe I missed why they did this?
11/28/12 3:31 PM
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guy1 - Can someone refresh my memory on a few things...

-What was the deal Bobby cut with Clay? I know it was last week but I forgot and they didn't show it in the pre-show recap.

-What were the documents Clay gave Gemma?

Also, what the f was with the Cartel ambush out of nowhere? Maybe I missed why they did this?

- the only part of the "deal" they showed last week was Bobby saying "I'm here to keep you alive"

- one was a marriage license

the cartel showed up b/c Pope told them Clay isn't patched anymore, so they were worrying that the Irish wouldn't do the last deal that they needed before the Chinese took over their gun-trade
11/28/12 3:35 PM
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Is the Galindo cartel still being funded by the CIA?

What is the point of that, anyway? Phone Post
11/28/12 5:35 PM
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Sagiv Lapkin -  Is the Galindo cartel still being funded by the CIA?

What is the point of that, anyway? Phone Post

LOL, they'll never explain that past "CIA evil, CIA kill and deal drugs..."

Not that they haven't, but there was always some purpose.
11/28/12 5:40 PM
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guy1 - Can someone refresh my memory on a few things...

-What was the deal Bobby cut with Clay? I know it was last week but I forgot and they didn't show it in the pre-show recap.

-What were the documents Clay gave Gemma?

Also, what the f was with the Cartel ambush out of nowhere? Maybe I missed why they did this?

- the only part of the "deal" they showed last week was Bobby saying "I'm here to keep you alive"

- one was a marriage license

the cartel showed up b/c Pope told them Clay isn't patched anymore, so they were worrying that the Irish wouldn't do the last deal that they needed before the Chinese took over their gun-trade

- Yep, it is implied in the last episode though that the deal was Clay admits what he did and Bobby vetoes the death vote (keeps Clay alive)

- Marriage license, death certificate, etc. nothing incriminating in content. The incriminating part is how did Clay get back possession of things stolen from his safe by the nomads unless he was working with them? Seems like a lot of people are confused on this.

- Exactly.
11/28/12 5:46 PM
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guy1 - Can someone refresh my memory on a few things...

-What was the deal Bobby cut with Clay? I know it was last week but I forgot and they didn't show it in the pre-show recap.

-What were the documents Clay gave Gemma?

Also, what the f was with the Cartel ambush out of nowhere? Maybe I missed why they did this?

- the only part of the "deal" they showed last week was Bobby saying "I'm here to keep you alive"

- one was a marriage license

the cartel showed up b/c Pope told them Clay isn't patched anymore, so they were worrying that the Irish wouldn't do the last deal that they needed before the Chinese took over their gun-trade
With the documents was also jax's brother's birth certificate. Phone Post
11/28/12 5:48 PM
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Clay gave Gemma the documents she was pretending to look for remember? She had all those files and told clay she thought she had another copy of Thomas's birth certificate somewhere Phone Post
11/28/12 5:56 PM
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ah, thanks guys.

11/28/12 6:17 PM
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Good episode, I really don't get the Galindo ambush though. Phone Post
11/28/12 6:54 PM
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and the rogue us marshall is gonna do what?

11/28/12 7:00 PM
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The deal was simply Clay admits to the Nomad nonsense and gets to live.

Clay is the father of Jax's brother.

Cartel, whatever... Trying to still enjoy it Phone Post
11/28/12 8:39 PM
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Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

its call skin popping
11/28/12 8:46 PM
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LoganClark -
Fake Pie - I didn't know you could shoot heroin into the muscle.

I also am pretty sure the one thing Hamas only wants to acquire and never sell is more guns. They would trade baby food for more guns.

People sometimes sell goods for more than they paid to acquire the items. The money gained is called profit. It is sometimes preceded by a ? Profit can be used to purchase additional goods. Perhaps that is Hamas' angle.
I always thought it odd that the Guns were coming from the Irish to Americans in the first place...Where they meant to have come from Ireland or we the Irish the go between with Libya and the Sons? Phone Post

That was always a joke, especially when it was just handguns and AKs. We have so many more millions of those readily available in the US it isn't even funny. No need to go outside the country for basic stuff like that. US is a gun supplier not buyer.

more importantly, why would they need all that artillery every 2 weeks?

are they losing 10k ak47s a week ?
11/28/12 8:48 PM
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Sagiv Lapkin -  Is the Galindo cartel still being funded by the CIA?

What is the point of that, anyway? Phone Post

LOL, they'll never explain that past "CIA evil, CIA kill and deal drugs..."

Not that they haven't, but there was always some purpose.
Yea man they said they were being backed by the CIA to other throw the other drug cartels so they could control the trade Phone Post
11/28/12 9:38 PM
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Zen - Good episode, I really don't get the Galindo ambush though. Phone Post
Yeah, it almost made me think Pope is testing or pushing Jax somehow. Pope really screwed jax over Phone Post

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