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OtherGround Forum >> 5 Bizarre Secret Societies that run the world
| 11/22/12 3:28 PM | |
Arodjohns
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EVILYOSHIDA - also regarding freemasonry there are 2 types of 33rd degrees. You're not quite right about this either but that's ok. Just go along like you know everything about it anyway. |
| 11/22/12 3:31 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69489 |
^ well I got that from bill cooper. I looked at an official degree list and it does have 2 33rd degrees. The Sovereign Grand is ranked higher than the honorary inspector |
| 11/22/12 3:33 PM | |
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Arodjohns
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EVILYOSHIDA - ^ well I got that from bill cooper. I looked at an official degree list and it does have 2 33rd degrees. It's not really a rank. A 33rd is a 33rd. It's just that one has a vote at Supreme Council and the other doesn't. |
| 11/22/12 3:38 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69490 |
well in practical terms, the Soveriegn Grand is much more exclusive. i was looking at the 2011 list of Honorary inspectors and the scottish rite handed out hundreds of them. bill Cooper claims the sovereign grands are privy to much more knowledge and the true nature of freemasonry |
| 11/22/12 4:08 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3251 |
I'm surprised no one brought up this infamous quote when discussing the Jewish Mason connection We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honour, a great honour, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations, which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot, should never know that those associations are of our creation, and that they serve our purpose…One of the many triumphs of our freemasonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, should never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our universal King of the Jews; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our own future King of the World…Speech at the B’nai B’rith convention in Paris, published in “The Catholic Gazette” (Feb 1936) |
| 11/22/12 4:09 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3252 |
http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/JuriLina.doc |
| 11/22/12 4:12 PM | |
Redneck
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^ that looks like something from the protocols, lol |
| 11/22/12 4:14 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3253 |
Redneck - VTFU |
| 11/22/12 4:16 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3254 |
EVILYOSHIDA - ^ i've listened to about 15 of them. they are VERY VERY good. Most scholars can discredit just about anything the Catholic Church claims from the Donation of Constantine on btw. |
| 11/22/12 4:21 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3255 |
EVILYOSHIDA - Yeah. I like Jay Weidner's work as well with Kubrick. He's a Kubrick expert. Claims Kubrick was paranoid as hell later in life because he revealed too much in his movies. Weidner's Kubrick stuff is fascinating. This guy has an archive of Wiedner interviews. Also has archives of Maxwell, Tsarion, Icke,Terence Mckenna,Alan Watt and others if any one is interested. http://www.youtube.com/user/prometheanreachxvi?feature=results_main |
| 11/22/12 4:22 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3256 |
Redneck - ^ that looks like something from the protocols, lol lol it does the doc in the link is not the protocols just a collection of quotes |
| 11/22/12 4:39 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69492 |
hiptosser - I'm surprised no one brought up this infamous quote when discussing the Jewish Mason connection is this a real quote? confirmed? THe radical right wing Catholics have claimed that Masonry is nothing more than a Shabez Goy operation to lull gullible goys. |
| 11/22/12 4:43 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3257 |
this is interesting http://www.masonicinfo.com/fakemasonry.htm |
| 11/22/12 4:46 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69493 |
hiptosser -EVILYOSHIDA - Yeah. I like Jay Weidner's work as well with Kubrick. He's a Kubrick expert. Claims Kubrick was paranoid as hell later in life because he revealed too much in his movies. Weidner actually agrees that the Catholic Church is the old world order and lost. He openly disagreed with Jordan on that point. I believe they had an interview together on rense once. Weidner understands what is happening and he seems like someone that is just interested in hidden knowledge.. esp. alchemy. he also is deeply connected in hollywood and has a lot of stories regarding sacrifice and dirty shit going on in hollywood |
| 11/22/12 4:47 PM | |
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MuayTy
Member Since: 8/21/10 Posts: 1619 |
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| 11/22/12 4:51 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3258 |
EVILYOSHIDA -hiptosser - I'm surprised no one brought up this infamous quote when discussing the Jewish Mason connection The quote is real as far as it was published in a real publication..I said it was infamous note it was 1936 the height of (for lack of a better) anti semetism in Europe.The Protocols were popular and in circulation all over Europe at the time. The linked doc I posted, does have quotes about the Jewish Masonic connection (that one included) from seemingly credible people. The nature of this subject matter kind of makes hard evidence of anything tough to come by, and the evidence of "professional " historians who spin secret societies one way or the other is often nothing more than their educated guesses. |
| 11/22/12 4:53 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3259 |
By the way I hope all of you nuts have a happy Thanksgiving! |
| 11/22/12 4:55 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69494 |
i'm not sure if that quote is authentic. However the Grand Orient has a lot of documented speeches/records with them openly declaring warfare on the church. |
| 11/22/12 4:59 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69495 |
"The mass realization of what we have done to ourselves will shake the old structures that have held us together. Already they have developed fissures and their collapse is imminent. Each day brings us closer to the moment when enough intelligent people actually figure out exactly what is going on and do something about it. At this moment it is difficult to say what will happen and when. The kettle had been boiling for a long time and it appears as if the lid is going to fly off at any moment. But make no mistake. The Smart revolution is coming. It is only a matter of time now. And this will not be a socialist revolution, or a rebellion of the workers. This will not be a war between classes or races. This will be a rebellion of the intelligent. " Jay Weidner. |
| 11/22/12 5:01 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69496 |
"The Mayans, time keeping has certainly not escaped the notice of the world 'managers'. Indeed, they will have found it to be most alarming. Remember what the Roman Catholic bishop of the Yucatan did way back in the early Spanish colonial period He ordered the Mayans to bring all of their books and had them burnt, at musket and sword point. The Roman Catholic church recognized the great danger (for its so-called 'Christian' teachings and power) that Mayan knowledge represented. Half a millennium has passed and today the Bush Reich exercises the sort of power on a global scale that the Roman Catholic church exercised in centuries past. " this kind of criticism I can tolerate and believe. |
| 11/22/12 5:19 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69497 |
CHURCH IN CRISIS? OR SMEAR CAMPAIGN? July 2002 UPDATES: (see updates below) NPR admits smear campaign quiets Catholic Church from opposing war. FOX hits Church with its TV show, Boston Public. Bishop Gregory accuses "strike the shepherd and scatter the flock." "Whats happening in the catholic church we've known about for years. The reason the media is coming out with this now is because they want to break the people's faith in god, and transfer that faith to government." -Eric Ture Muhammad, 7:48 A.M. (EST) CSPAN-1, 7/12/2002 [ID 171159] On April 25, 2002, the "Democracy Now" show on Pacifica radio ran a story on sexual abuses in the Catholic Church, as every media institution has been doing for months. During this show, comments were made by Frederick Berlin, Associate Professor of Psychiatry, founder of the Johns Hopkins Sexual Disorders Clinic and consultant on the National Conference of Catholic Bishops' ad hoc committee on sexual abuse. "I don't know of any evidence that pedophilia is any more prevalent in the Catholic church than any other sector of society; I don't know of any evidence that child sexual abuse is higher within the church than any other segments of society; recently we focused on the church... Its important to step back and realize that there have been comparable problems in Boy Scouts of America, for example. Also, Big Brothers organization has had to take precautions because its concerned about this issue..." The Catholic Church has obviously used its power to attempt to hide this problem for decades, but why is it in the media now? Why is the Catholic Church receiving daily coverage in all corporate (FOX/ABC/NBC) and Rockefeller (PBS/NPR) controlled media? Through the entire month of March and April, National Public Radio has spent at least an hour a day telling the public of the new evils of the Catholic Church. The Washington Post runs a cover story almost everyday, if not discussing war, then the problems in the Catholic Church. Why has the media ignored this problem until now, and suddenly decided to remind the public of this daily? June 8, 2002 article UPI article reports: VATICAN CITY, Vatican City, June 8 (UPI) -- A Catholic cardinal who some believe may become the next pope has accused the U.S. media of using tactics reminiscent more of Stalin, Hitler and two brutal Roman emperors than of objective journalists covering the church's recent pedophilia scandals, according to an interview in an upcoming issue of an Italian Catholic magazine. Indeed, most coverage in the United States had been "obviously and openly anti-Catholic" toward this year's child sex scandals, Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga told the magazine Trente Giorni, or "Thirty Days," for its June 12 issue. Why smear the Catholic Church? The world has now obviously come to a fragile point, as powerful forces try to drive every aspect of this planet into war. There is a New World Order moving forward, and war is their key for world domination. The Catholic Church has courageously come to the plate, and taken a stand. This media smear campaign hitting the Church hard, at such a crucial time, is no coincidence. It is clear that Church is taking a stand in the heart of the current world conflicts. On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, Reuters reported the Pope "rejects unjust conditions and humiliations imposed on the Palestinian people as well as the reprisals and revenge attacks which do nothing but feed the sense of frustration and hatred." On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, Reuters reported "Pope John Paul has telephoned Franciscan monks holed up in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem to express his solidarity with them." This is blatant defiance of the intentions of the Israeli army, who hasn't carried siege on the church, only for fear of harming the monks. Even more recently, former Archbishop Desmond Tutu made even harsher statements, which rang throughout the world. On Monday April 29, 2002, the Guardian paper reported his words: "Have our Jewish sisters and brothers forgotten their humiliation? Have they forgotten the collective punishment, the home demolitions, in their own history so soon? Have they turned their backs on their profound and noble religious traditions? Have they forgotten that God cares deeply about the downtrodden? .... But you know as well as I do that, somehow, the Israeli government is placed on a pedestal [in the US], and to criticize it is to be immediately dubbed anti-Semitic, as if the Palestinians were not Semitic.... People are scared in this country [the US], to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby is powerful - very powerful." Its obvious those who control the U.S. media don't appreciate this sediment, because instead of covering the Archbishop, they decided to talk about pedophilia of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is attempting to fight two wars; the first is against the New World Order, and the second is a public relations war. Discrediting and dividing the Church will be one more war that helps the New World Order. |
| 11/22/12 5:21 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3260 |
The Church id pretty much indefensible historically and in it's modern context. The best you can go do is point out that there are good Catholics and that in a nominal way the Church provides a moral frame work. A mandate from God and apostolic succession are not needed to promote common sense concepts like don't murder or steal. The Church it self has never operated the way it demands the faithful do. Never mind historical conspiracies there is plenty of evil happening now and openly from kid fucking to trying stop people from using condoms in populations at high risk for HIV/AIDS. That is a criticism you should be able to wrap your head around. If they are capable of that what else wouldn't they do. If smart revolution is coming then Rome should be sacked. |
| 11/22/12 5:24 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3261 |
This is good look into how the Vatican works http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/deliver_us_from_evil |
| 11/22/12 5:26 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69499 |
IF you don't like the Church that is fine. I can understand that. but they are not fitting into the international conspiracy I dwell on this because it's the ONLY piece that doesn't fit in. All the other stuff is very very clear. The masons, the gnostics, NWO blah blah.. socialists their ideologies are IN ALIGNMENT Everything they preach is highly coherent and represent the thousand points of light trying to bring about a new world order. the Catholic Church and what they stand for.. and the theories surrounding them just do not make sense. |
| 11/22/12 5:28 PM | |
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EVILYOSHIDA
Edited: 11/22/12 5:30 PM Member Since: 12/3/03 Posts: 69500 |
The most prominent catholics are mostly against the new world order as well Pat wrote this book bashing the NWO 
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