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1/27/13 8:57 PM
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Ham and Egger - I see this first hand. I live in a neighborhood that is 99% Mexican. About 5 minutes north and 5 minutes sough are two of the blackest ghettos in Houston, but they do not come into this neighborhood.
You're a white dude I assume? How are you treated? Phone Post
1/27/13 8:59 PM
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1/27/13 9:01 PM
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antifret - "...nothing comparable to the lack of self respect and dignity in the black community..."

Lux Fixxins - "...But black people openly embrace the bad part of their culture (gangs gas, pimps, thug life and all that bullshit)..."

i've also always thought of these as being huge issues for blacks. there just seems to be no sense of shame or responsibility for the crap that goes on in their neighborhoods. there needs to be more celebs like Cosby, Freeman to speak the truth. instead, you got loudmouth racists like Jackson and Sharpton making excuses and just stirring shit up.
1/27/13 9:24 PM
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Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post
1/27/13 9:36 PM
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gregbrady 27 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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aaah yes

It's all white society's fault

150 yrs after the end of slavery that's a tired, bullshit excuse.

there are immigrants grps with a small fraction of the opportunity blacks have had that come to this country and succeed at rates far higher than blacks do.

we have been buying into the whole "it's the white man's fault that black society is doing so poorly" since at least the 60's. Time for another angle
1/27/13 9:39 PM
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alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post

No that's stupid you just read the wrong websites.



That's as simple of an explanation of why you're wrong as I can give you.
1/27/13 9:40 PM
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alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post

Pretty much this.

And it continues. There are plenty of liberals, of all shades, who make careers out of "championing" the Black man's "cause".

A number of academic departments and sub-specialties would become redundant were it not for some of these destructive policies.
1/27/13 9:42 PM
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gregbrady - aaah yes

It's all white society's fault

150 yrs after the end of slavery that's a tired, bullshit excuse.

there are immigrants grps with a small fraction of the opportunity blacks have had that come to this country and succeed at rates far higher than blacks do.

we have been buying into the whole "it's the white man's fault that black society is doing so poorly" since at least the 60's. Time for another angle

I think that guy's a troll, but one thing I'm surprised doesn't get brought up by anti-abortion and pro-gun people is that if our safety nets for the worst off in society, the poor, was a little better, there'd be a lot less shootings and abortions.


But I do think if we had a living wage, like Europe/Australia, then within 10 years we'd see a serious drop in crime. If we had 40-50 weeks paid maternity leave, instead of 0, we'd have less abortions. Etc.
1/27/13 9:43 PM
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Jenny Wishbone - 
alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post

Pretty much this.

And it continues. There are plenty of liberals, of all shades, who make careers out of "championing" the Black man's "cause".

A number of academic departments and sub-specialties would become redundant were it not for some of these destructive policies.

Shut up, dummy.
1/27/13 9:45 PM
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believe it or not, around here ther are tensions btw the "Blacks" and the Haitians

they hate each other

1/27/13 10:02 PM
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LOL at this presumed alliance Hispanics will align more often with whites than they will with blacks.
1/27/13 10:35 PM
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Interesting Phone Post
1/27/13 10:48 PM
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1/27/13 10:50 PM
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1/27/13 11:07 PM
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droplogic - 
Ham and Egger - I see this first hand. I live in a neighborhood that is 99% Mexican. About 5 minutes north and 5 minutes sough are two of the blackest ghettos in Houston, but they do not come into this neighborhood.
You're a white dude I assume? How are you treated? Phone Post

Have never had any problems. My neighbors and I trade food often. ill give them something from my garden and theyll bring meat or w/e when they grill.

There is only one problem house on the block. Various men live there and a van comes and picks them up for work. They party loud as fuck and have construction bullshit all over their yard.

Its a safe neighborhood though. Kids play in the street. American flags on the 4th. The whole shabang.
1/27/13 11:11 PM
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Ham and Egger - 
droplogic - 
Ham and Egger - I see this first hand. I live in a neighborhood that is 99% Mexican. About 5 minutes north and 5 minutes sough are two of the blackest ghettos in Houston, but they do not come into this neighborhood.
You're a white dude I assume? How are you treated? Phone Post

Have never had any problems. My neighbors and I trade food often. ill give them something from my garden and theyll bring meat or w/e when they grill.

There is only one problem house on the block. Various men live there and a van comes and picks them up for work. They party loud as fuck and have construction bullshit all over their yard.

Its a safe neighborhood though. Kids play in the street. American flags on the 4th. The whole shabang.

Will also add that for a few months we had considered selling the house to move in with/take care of my mother in law. The neighbors on both sides came over and pleaded with me not to sell to a black family.
1/27/13 11:16 PM
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There's definitely a lot more asian/black tension in California than white/black tension these days. Same goes for black/hispanic tension.

You'll notice blacks are probably even less enthusiastic about an amnesty for illegals than whites.
1/27/13 11:26 PM
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gregbrady - I would far rather live in a Mexican neighborhood than a black one

black neighborhoods are unbelievably shitty and crime ridden compared to Mexican neighborhoods which aren't much different than white blue collar neighborhoods.


I've lived in both, like many people, I'm sure, and the Mexicans would have these family picnics on Sundays where extended families would barbecue and play that Latino trumpet music with kids running around, and all of the thugish hispanics had to show up and spend time with their children and elders after church.  

The black thugs hung out on the porch mean mugging or threatening eachother.

Just saying.

1/27/13 11:32 PM
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gregbrady - aaah yes

It's all white society's fault

150 yrs after the end of slavery that's a tired, bullshit excuse.

there are immigrants grps with a small fraction of the opportunity blacks have had that come to this country and succeed at rates far higher than blacks do.

we have been buying into the whole "it's the white man's fault that black society is doing so poorly" since at least the 60's. Time for another angle

"It's all white society's fault"

I think he's pointing out that destructive policies that have nurtured dependency and a victim mentality within Blacks (as through such cultural outlets as hip hop music) have contributed to the destructive behaviours within the Black community.

I'm not clear how blaming liberals is saying "it's all white society's fault".
1/28/13 12:23 AM
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alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post

No that's stupid you just read the wrong websites.



That's as simple of an explanation of why you're wrong as I can give you.

Except that an entire industry of apologists for Black deviance arose in the 60s around the time that the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan was raising alarm bells about the connection with social decay in the Black community and rising single parent households, and particularly Black welfare dependency. Instead of heeding Moynihan's warning, you had people like Sharpton and Jackson branding him a racist, and books published by the likes of William Ryan - "Blaming the Victim" - with the intention of discrediting Moynihan and others who credited anything, other than factors outside the community, for the problem affecting Blacks.

And of course, nothing has really changed in that regard.


1/28/13 1:24 AM
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Good thread.
1/28/13 2:43 AM
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The main difference between a working-class Mexican neighborhood and a working-class white neighborhood, is the near continuous pulsating sound of tubas.

1/28/13 10:30 PM
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alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post


It's all the white man's fault - abloo abloo. Surprised it took two pages to show up.
1/28/13 11:20 PM
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Jenny Wishbone - 
AK-BJJ - This could get interesting because you can't just take the "blame white people" stance

Leftists can find a way.

this...
1/29/13 1:00 AM
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Invisible Lats Syndrome -
alkysmurf -  Not giving any excuses, but its very clear that blacks were treated as a social experiment by liberals.

Let's give this generations housing and food stamps, and watch.
OK now let's give their kids more, and shitier education
OK now we give more, but only to single moms, worse education, and let create an ultra addictive drug that's extremely cheap, and then create laws criminalizing addicts with severe sentences, and watch,
Now let's do more of all that and introduce thug culture, and more drugs and harsher penalties

And that's what happened to "black" communities. A systematic destruction disguised as help, designed to create a permanent reliance on Democratic politicians to care for them in exchange for a large voting block. Phone Post


It's all the white man's fault - abloo abloo. Surprised it took two pages to show up.
White leftists made the blacks the way they are due to the social polices they created. This is common knowledge among conservative thinkers. Phone Post

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