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2/21/06 5:57 PM

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Oddessa 38 Edited: 21-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5264 JoeyOddessa.com

UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Heavyweights Sat 3/4 Tom Murphy vs Chistophe Midoux 07:00 PM 13 Tom Murphy -160   14 Chistophe Midoux +150 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Lightweights Sat 3/4 Yves Edwards vs Mark Hominick 07:00 PM 9 Yves Edwards -550   10 Mark Hominick +500 Sat 3/4 Kenny Florian vs Sam Stout 07:00 PM 11 Kenny Florian -151   12 Sam Stout +141 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Middleweights Sat 3/4 Nate Marquardt vs Joe Doerksen 07:00 PM 5 Nate Marquardt -205   6 Joe Doerksen +185 Sat 3/4 Mike Swick vs Steve Vigneault 07:00 PM 7 Mike Swick -620   8 Steve Vigneault +570 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: UFC Middleweight Championship Sat 3/4 Rich Franklin vs David Loiseau 08:30 PM 1 Rich Franklin -301   2 David Loiseau +271 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Welterweights Sat 3/4 B.J. Penn vs Georges St. Pierre 08:00 PM 3 B.J. Penn +121   4 Georges St. Pierre -131 Sat 3/4 Diego Sanchez vs John Alessio 07:00 PM 15 Diego Sanchez -582   16 John Alessio +532

2/21/06 6:05 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Fishclops Edited: 21-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 2954	i like doerksen at +185, will almost have to take penn as a dog just because, and lunch money goes on alessio. there will be some underdog winners on this card. You have ignored this user.

2/21/06 6:12 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Fishclops Edited: 21-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 2955	just made it official, doerksen +185,penn +121 and alessio +532 going to be keeping an eye on franklin/louiseau and penn/gsp lines, really looking forward to both of those fights. You have ignored this user.

2/21/06 8:25 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Ruffdogg Edited: 21-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/28/2005 Posts: 113	dogs which are taking it is Loiseau,Stout, GSP. The rest is all favs You have ignored this user.

2/21/06 8:29 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Oddessa 38 Edited: 21-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5272 JoeyOddessa.com	I found Stout at +170 and +160 early and bet him. You have ignored this user.

2/22/06 7:01 AM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Fishclops Edited: 22-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 2957	"dogs which are taking it is Loiseau,Stout, GSP. " gsp is at -131 to penn's +121 it doesn't really matter to me who wins that fight i just hope it lives up to the hype, that being said, i can't imagine NOT taking penn as a dog against anyone even remotely close to WW. You have ignored this user.

2/22/06 4:22 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Chemmy Edited: 22-Feb-06 Member Since: 11/20/2000 Posts: 3190	"Do you think the UFC would feed one of their future TUF lightweight stars to someone who can beat him?" Yes You have ignored this user.

2/22/06 4:24 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Oddessa 38 Edited: 22-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5286 JoeyOddessa.com	I agree w/ Chemmy agreeing w/ me.....lol You can only carry guys so long b4 you give them a test. I'll be impressed if Florian gets past Stout. I dont see it happening and at the high + number I'll take my chances. You have ignored this user.

2/22/06 9:18 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
FightingMajor Edited: 22-Feb-06 Member Since: 11/23/2002 Posts: 3714	If I may cut in, this is a close fight. Florian has the advantage if he can take Stout down, and Stout is susceptible there. This makes it close, but Florian has the advantage. I am staying out of this one, but if I were forced to play, by a pack of wild round assed blonds, I'd pick Florian. You have ignored this user.

2/22/06 9:44 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Oddessa 38 Edited: 22-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5300 JoeyOddessa.com	Dont let us talk you  outa a winner.  I just think its a pretty close bout and I couldnt pass up the +170. Thats why these things are fought.  You have ignored this user.

2/23/06 9:07 AM

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Chemmy Edited: 23-Feb-06 Member Since: 11/20/2000 Posts: 3193

+170 on Stout is definitely a good bet, but I wouldn't take him at any less than even money. I'd say the fight is about 60-40 for Stout. Florian has as big of an advantage on the mat as Stout does standing, the question is, where will the fight be fought? Personally, I question Florian's TD ability and think that the fight will be decided standing. Other than GSP, Stout is the only other Canadian that I see as having a better than 50% chance of winning (and I'm Canadian). Guys like Ivan Salaverry, Ivan Menjivar, Jeff Joslin and Jonathon Goulet would've made it a competitive night between Canada and the U.S. You have ignored this user.

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Fishclops Edited: 23-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 2965	pwnitat0r-looks like you are damned if you do or damned if you don't. murphy's law says that whatever decision you make now is the wrong one so.... You have ignored this user.

2/23/06 3:49 PM

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Oddessa 38 Edited: 23-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5308 JoeyOddessa.com

UPDATED ODDS: 2-23-2006 3:30 EST @ Pinnacle   UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Heavyweights Sat 3/4 Tom Murphy vs Chistophe Midoux 07:00 PM 13 Tom Murphy -163   14 Chistophe Midoux +153 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Lightweights Sat 3/4 Yves Edwards vs Mark Hominick 07:00 PM 9 Yves Edwards -541   10 Mark Hominick +491 Sat 3/4 Kenny Florian vs Sam Stout 07:00 PM 11 Kenny Florian -159   12 Sam Stout +149 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Middleweights Sat 3/4 Nate Marquardt vs Joe Doerksen 07:00 PM 5 Nate Marquardt -210   6 Joe Doerksen +190 Sat 3/4 Mike Swick vs Steve Vigneault 07:00 PM 7 Mike Swick -603   8 Steve Vigneault +543 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: UFC Middleweight Championship Sat 3/4 Rich Franklin vs David Loiseau 08:30 PM 1 Rich Franklin -309   2 David Loiseau +279 UFC 58: USA vs Canada-Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas: Welterweights Sat 3/4 B.J. Penn vs Georges St. Pierre 08:00 PM 3 B.J. Penn +140   4 Georges St. Pierre -150 Sat 3/4 Diego Sanchez vs John Alessio 07:00 PM 15 Diego Sanchez -510   16 John Alessio +460 You have ignored this user.

2/23/06 3:51 PM

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Oddessa 38 Edited: 23-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5310 JoeyOddessa.com

3:40 pm EST 2-23-2006 Updated Odds @ Pinnacle   Pride Fighting 31: Unbreakable-Saitama Super Dome: Matchups Sat 2/25 Mark Hunt vs Yosuke Nishijima 11:00 PM 1 Mark Hunt -1350   2 Yosuke Nishijima +1050 Sat 2/25 Mario Sperry vs Tsuyoshi Kohsaka 11:00 PM 3 Mario Sperry -157   4 Tsuyoshi Kohsaka +147 Sat 2/25 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs Kiyoshi Tamura 11:00 PM 5 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira -1500   6 Kiyoshi Tamura +1200 Sat 2/25 Sergei Kharitonov vs Alistair Overeem 11:00 PM 7 Sergei Kharitonov -411   8 Alistair Overeem +371 Sat 2/25 Fabricio Werdum vs Jon Olav Einemo 11:00 PM 9 Fabricio Werdum -166   10 Jon Olav Einemo +156 Sat 2/25 Quinton Jackson vs Dong Sik Yoon 11:00 PM 11 Quinton Jackson -1100   12 Dong Sik Yoon +800 Sat 2/25 Pedro Rizzo vs Roman Zentsov 11:00 PM 13 Pedro Rizzo -277   14 Roman Zentsov +257 Sat 2/25 Josh Barnett vs Kazuhiro Nakamura 11:00 PM 15 Josh Barnett -400   16 Kazuhiro Nakamura +360 Sat 2/25 Mauricio Rua vs Mark Coleman 11:00 PM 17 Mauricio Rua -414   18 Mark Coleman +384 You have ignored this user.

2/23/06 8:57 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
FightingMajor Edited: 23-Feb-06 Member Since: 11/23/2002 Posts: 3721	I hate that fucking Murphy! That son of a bitch! You have ignored this user.

2/24/06 5:19 AM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
BloodforBlood Edited: 24-Feb-06 Member Since: 03/22/2003 Posts: 87	Silly Question, but I'm not used to the +510 and -460 . how does that work in relation to odds like 3-1? Thanks. You have ignored this user.

2/24/06 1:48 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Oddessa 38 Edited: 24-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5323 JoeyOddessa.com	3-1 is +300 +510 is 5.1-1 +460 is 4.6 to 1 You have ignored this user.

2/25/06 3:07 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
usurper 8 Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 03/12/2002 Posts: 7445	just threw down some cash on overeem. if theres going to be an upset, i think its going to be him. You have ignored this user.

2/25/06 5:34 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
surfin joe 49 Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 15924	Overeem is a great value IMO You have ignored this user.

2/25/06 7:01 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
Fishclops Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 2968	i've got kharitonov and rua. You have ignored this user.

2/25/06 8:37 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
surfin joe 49 Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 15926	We'll see what happens. The thing about finding good line values is that sometimes you don't take the guy who will probably win. I would never bet Sergei -400 over Overeem, that's a horrible value IMO. I would bet it the other way. Anyone can just pick every chalk favorite and have a good winning %. You have to look for good values. You have ignored this user.

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Oddessa 38 Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 06/08/2002 Posts: 5334 JoeyOddessa.com	surfin is correct.............lose a few of those big favs and you can be 10-2 and lose money. You have ignored this user.

2/25/06 11:32 PM	Ignore | Quote | Edit | Warn Admin | Vote Down | Vote Up | Delete Post
crazyhook Edited: 25-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/19/2003 Posts: 13018	Stout, Loiseau and Hominick are my bets... have to transfer cash tomorrow You have ignored this user.

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Ruffdogg Edited: 26-Feb-06 Member Since: 01/28/2005 Posts: 128	Florian's jiu-jitsu is not as good as people think it is. He has more of a defensive jiu-jitsu, I don't see him submitting much people unless their name is Kit Cope. On the other hand Stout is a hybrid fighter with heavy hands, and pretty well-versed on the ground. Stout all the way You have ignored this user.

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usurper 8 Edited: 26-Feb-06 Member Since: 03/12/2002 Posts: 7452	taking the money i won on overeem and throwing it on marquardt and loasieau You have ignored this user.

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