Traditional Martial Arts >> tell me about aikido...
| 1/10/07 6:27 PM | |
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FutureProdigy
Edited: 10-Jan-07 Member Since: 09/21/2002 Posts: 708 |
We don't offer much at my school in the area of martial arts and the one class I could take is aikido at our local gym for 45$. I however do not know much about the system at all. Please enlighten me a bit without telling me to go look it up on the web. I want to jist of it from REAL practioners. |
| 1/11/07 10:43 AM | |
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GaydarBlane
Edited: 11-Jan-07 Member Since: 08/13/2003 Posts: 6153 |
I was a REAL practitioner. It's basically a cooperative form of martial arts that focusses on wrist locks and using an attacker's energy against them. The techniques were derived mainly from Aiki Jiu Jitsu. It's fun in a "I want to be a Jedi" kind of way. As for the usefullness, it depends on your job. If you are a compliance-type authority figure (cop, bouncer, etc) then it may come in handy. In an actual all out brawl... not so much. The attacks you defend against are largely unrealistic and the cooperative nature of training stops you from ever working with live, full resistance. Lot's of bowing and scraping is involved as are other rituals. |
| 1/13/07 4:13 PM | |
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jimmyok
Edited: 13-Jan-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 458 |
If it's one of the rare aikido schools that does actual randori against/with a non-cooperating partner, then it should be fine. But if no randori, then don't bother. Jimmy O'Curry |
| 1/26/07 1:13 AM | |
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26018
Edited: 26-Jan-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 176 |
You might want to go read some on the forums at aikidojournal.com G'day ;] |
| 5/11/07 11:59 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 11-May-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 33031 |
Supposedly, some of the Tomiki guys that got their judo BB first are pretty effective at sparring. That said, we had a coupla aikido BBs at our BJJ school and they never managed to get me in a wristlock when sparring though they tried... and their throws were terrible. |
| 7/22/07 5:42 PM | |
The Sultan
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Edited: 22-Jul-07 Member Since: 09/12/2006 Posts: 8902 |
I trained Aikido for a little while and I found a lot of the moves to be elaborate, too time-consuming to learn and not very practical, IMO. The guy I trained with was an Aikido black belt. Very cool guy but was more apt to shoot someone with a 45 rather than actually fight so it didn't give me much insight as to how much confidence he had in his style. |
| 7/22/07 7:58 PM | |
yusul
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Edited: 22-Jul-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 10830 |
the useful skill i see there is how to fall. |
| 8/11/07 10:58 PM | |
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ronin0352
Edited: 11-Aug-07 Member Since: 05/20/2007 Posts: 348 |
I just posted this on another thread but it seems to fit your question as well, so I'm just going to c&p: "I trained for a few years. Like any other TMA, it depends on the teacher, IMO. My teacher had studied other TMAs before aikido and incorporated them in our studies as well as drawing from my wrestling/grappling experience. Like any really good teacher, he learned as much from everyone else as he taught and always sought to improve his own style. I always (and still) considered myself a novice in aikido, but he took me to other schools and to seminars where the "recreational" black belts' technique was just hideous. Even I could pick out the blatant flaws. oops, I'm rambling Back to the point, aikido can be an effective art if trained right. Finding a quality instructor is not easy though." |
| 8/12/07 11:30 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 12-Aug-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 36315 |
As I've posted before - Ueshiba mastered wrestling, karate, kendo, and did lots of sumo before developing aikido. imo, aikido is what you do after you've done pancrase for a few years and are getting too old to go at it hardcore any longer (like I am!). |
| 8/13/07 12:43 AM | |
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JesseL
Edited: 13-Aug-07 Member Since: 03/01/2007 Posts: 26 |
Ueshiba never did sumo or karate or wrestling............it was jiujitsu where he built his art from |
| 8/13/07 12:43 AM | |
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JesseL
Edited: 13-Aug-07 Member Since: 03/01/2007 Posts: 27 |
Ueshiba never did sumo or karate or wrestling............it was jiujitsu where he built his art from |
| 8/13/07 9:19 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 13-Aug-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 36334 |
Then wiki is wrong about the sumo thing.... |
| 8/14/07 11:53 AM | |
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FlashGordon2002
Edited: 14-Aug-07 Member Since: 05/23/2002 Posts: 13566 |
Ueshiba did Sumo. He did NOT do Karate. "Wrestling" is probably meant in the generic sense as grappling, not western wrestling. He supposedly would wrestle logs or something like that. |
| 8/14/07 12:27 PM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 14-Aug-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 36389 |
At some point he did kenjutsu though. Anyway, he didn't start out doing what we know as aikido today. |
| 8/16/07 1:42 PM | |
yusul
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Edited: 16-Aug-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 10863 |
there might be some hot chics there, so it wouldn't be a waste of time. |
| 8/20/07 10:46 AM | |
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FlashGordon2002
Edited: 20-Aug-07 Member Since: 05/23/2002 Posts: 13652 |
More likely a bunch of overweight passive aggressive hippy chicks. If you want hot chicks, go to cardio kickboxing. |
| 8/23/07 10:54 AM | |
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sta94
Edited: 23-Aug-07 Member Since: 04/11/2002 Posts: 863 |
FlashGordon2002 = correctamundo!!! from what little I know: cardio kickbox = hot chicks aikido = hippy chicks with chips on their shoulders |
| 8/23/07 6:21 PM | |
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GaydarBlane
Edited: 23-Aug-07 Member Since: 08/13/2003 Posts: 7872 |
We have Boston Center for Adult Education here. You can take courses from basic electrical work for your home, to cooking, to sculpting. I take at least 2 classes a year. Regardless of what it is, it usually at the very least a 5:1 girl:guy ratio, with most girls being young professions in the 25-35 range. I'm married, but I can't help thinking it is an undiscovered treasure trove. More so than Aikido likely... |
| 8/24/07 8:50 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 24-Aug-07 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 36700 |
And, yet, another thread becomes about buttsex and where to get it... god I love the OG (and it's feeble spin-off-grounds) :) |
| 8/26/07 9:56 AM | |
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GaydarBlane
Edited: 26-Aug-07 Member Since: 08/13/2003 Posts: 7881 |
This thread is about Aikido and by default also about butt sex. |
| 1/4/08 3:36 AM | |
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supersaiyan
Edited: 04-Jan-08 Member Since: 03/20/2002 Posts: 14721 |
2 werds..Steven Seagal |
| 1/4/08 9:08 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 04-Jan-08 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 38953 |
If you live in Alabama, try the aikido they do at the university there. It is supposed to be 'realistic' but good luck finding a teacher of that anywheres else. I had high hopes for Tomiki style until I really looked into it. The sport part of it actually ruins the art! Too many rules to prevent injury - which is what fighting is all about (injure them before they kill you). You'd think pre-WWII judo + aikijutsu would be awesome, but it has become just a farce. |
| 1/4/08 11:03 AM | |
JasonKeaton
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Edited: 04-Jan-08 Member Since: 03/12/2002 Posts: 2684 |
It seems like the principles are really good. The application is horrible |
| 1/5/08 12:48 AM | |
Stronghold
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Edited: 05-Jan-08 Member Since: 01/01/2001 Posts: 38965 |
werd I knew some KB and TKD (classic) guys that added a bunch of aikijutsu and some ground fighting to their arsenals and were okay. But, my Pancrase still whooped on them handily. Their problem was that they never found a way to practice all out like BJJ or Pancrase guys can so realism in sparring is lost making their styles more theory than reality. Still, hasn't ANYONE put small joint manipulation/wrist locks to good use in MMA fighting? I know a Master that did but only because he was a GREAT technician. |
| 1/5/08 12:01 PM | |
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JesseL
Edited: 05-Jan-08 Member Since: 03/01/2007 Posts: 52 |
i guess is would be good for policemen where wrist locks and the such could be usefull |
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