UnderGround Forum >> lol @ Arlovski being a tough match for Fedor

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33712	Average takedown defense, guard passed like it was nothing by a guy with a 75" waist, rocked standing. Fedor by GnP TKO :30 round one.

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Mad Xyientist 16 Member Since: 6/22/07 Posts: 9010	Who is a tough match for Fedor right now?  Pretty much no one. You have ignored this user.

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hubris Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 71681	Arlovski was getting owned on the ground there You have ignored this user.

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max power 2 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 46779	andres never been good on his back in a fight You have ignored this user.

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Billyz 1 Member Since: 12/2/05 Posts: 3574	he didn't look to great on the ground but think that more a credit to Nelson being pretty damn good on the ground than andrei being incompetent there You have ignored this user.

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33715	How about passing his guard within seconds of hitting the ground? You have ignored this user.

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33716	Do you think Barnett or Fedor or Gonzaga or Werdum or whomever wouldn't have finished that kimura? You have ignored this user.

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Quik 199 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 14493 Six Deuce Gear, Graphic Designer	At this point, nobody could hang with Fedor. You have ignored this user.

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EasyTapper 10 Member Since: 12/2/05 Posts: 3334	BJ > DORKUS -  guard passed like it was nothing by a guy with a 75" waist Not disagreeing with your overall point, but it's hard to keep someone in guard when you can't close you legs. You have ignored this user.

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ryanJ 124 Member Since: 12/15/00 Posts: 8048

BJ > DORKUS -  Do you think Barnett or Fedor or Gonzaga or Werdum or whomever wouldn't have finished that kimura?  We don't really know if AA would have presented the same options to those guys.  It is not entirely impossible, that AA wasn't aggressively defending (just doing enough not to get sub'd) the kimura because he didn't feel he was in a lot of danger and it was better Nelson focused on that, rather than GNP'ing. There are times it makes sense to let a guy work on something you are not too scared of so that he doesn't work on something that you are scared of. You have ignored this user.

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jason hornbuckle Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 43093	AA has really good lateral movement and good punching power. when he's on he could be a serious threat to Fedor his ground game and wrestling are often sub par, he's not a consistent fighter. could be a mental thing You have ignored this user.

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33719	Fedor has faster hands, vastly better wrestling and ground. My point with this thread is that Arlovski is less of a threat to Fedor than Barnett or even Couture. You have ignored this user.

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jason hornbuckle Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 43095

i disagree that Fedor's hands are faster. AA showed extremely fast hands vs Buentello and Eilers Couture is ZERO threat to Fedor. can't strike with him, can't out-wrestle him, can't submit him Barnett has more of a chance just becase of his size out of all the HWs out there, a disciplined AA is the best bet to test Fedor. lateral movement and fast punches, if he can do that for 5 or 10 minutes no one disputes that Fedor is the better fighter, but AA has a way to win if he can control himself You have ignored this user.

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Mad Xyientist 16 Member Since: 6/22/07 Posts: 9013	WhiteWhale - i think barnett is a bigger threat heavier and better grappler  That just means he'll get KO'd instead of submitted. You have ignored this user.

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33725	"Couture is ZERO threat to Fedor. can't strike with him, can't out-wrestle him, can't submit him" Why on earth would Randy not be able to outwrestle Fedor? Fedor ended up on his back against Mark Hunt TWICE, for god's sake. You have ignored this user.

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jason hornbuckle Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 43098	Randy ended up on his back vs Ricco and Barnett too and "Because he's a 45 or 46 year old man" is the answer to your question You have ignored this user.

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RIPride Member Since: 5/27/07 Posts: 24	Fedor was getting hurt on the ground by Hunt at one point, big fat guys can be tough to deal with from the bottom. You have ignored this user.

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BJ > DORKUS Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 33729	"Randy ended up on his back vs Ricco and Barnett too" I suspect Fedor would have as well. "and "Because he's a 45 or 46 year old man" is the answer to your question" Maybe, but we haven't seen any weaknesses in his wrestling yet. You have ignored this user.

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D241 Member Since: 11/20/09 Posts: 7388	I said that sometimes, Orcus does have good insight between many retarded post.  Orcus, although off on the way of the finish, was fairly close to the time frame.  Nothing he says on this thread I disagree with. Including the part about Randy. You have ignored this user.

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D241 Member Since: 11/20/09 Posts: 7389	Just to put it into perspective, Orcus was not in the majority in picking a first round tko. Many people weren't sure about this outcome: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&forum=1&thread=1406573&page=2  You have ignored this user.

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RandyDarsh 211 Member Since: 11/30/11 Posts: 3484	What a gem You have ignored this user.

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leftlegtrumpcard 13 Member Since: 5/31/11 Posts: 1196	Arlovski was in it until he jumped for the stars with that damn knee!!!! You have ignored this user.

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OnlyTheStrongSurvive 253 Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 3219	this is kind of creepy You have ignored this user.

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Jobe Watson the Bomber 177 Member Since: 10/12/10 Posts: 2386	Damn you arlovski, you were looking great, then you got reckless. that ko was prettt much the beginning of the end for the pitbull. If he was a little more patient who knows where arlovski would be right now. You have ignored this user.

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D241 Member Since: 11/20/09 Posts: 7395

leftlegtrumpcard -  Arlovski was in it until he jumped for the stars with that damn knee!!!!  That's what was so exciting about Fedor's fights. Against Nog, Nog was the man, Fedor was the underdog. Fedor surprised everyone, despite most thinking he was going to lose. Same with Cro Cop.(maybe not an underdog, but most felt if anyone would be the first, it'd be Mirko) Then, with fights against Fujita, Hunt, AA,Randleman, Rogers, When those guys started doing good against Fedor, while watching we get this feeling like, "is this it? Is this the one? Will this be the fight?"  And then, BAM, Fedor pulls some shit and gets a W seemingly out of nowhere. You have ignored this user.

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