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Hunting and Fishing Ground >> Buying my first handgun..need some advice/help
| 7/14/10 7:28 PM | |
balloon knotter
Member Since: 2/27/07 Posts: 16961 |
are you in jersey city? have you applied yet? no reason to go gun shopping until you've got that done. you may be unpleasantly surprised at what you'll go through to get the permits. |
| 7/14/10 7:49 PM | |
Team Cup
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Member Since: 11/18/02 Posts: 14390 |
balloon knotter - are you in jersey city? have you applied yet? no reason to go gun shopping until you've got that done. you may be unpleasantly surprised at what you'll go through to get the permits. THIS When I lived in Edgewater, NJ... It took me over a year to get my "firearms identification card" and 2 years to get my permit to purchase a pistol. |
| 7/14/10 7:50 PM | |
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DaveM
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3691 |
I'm currently trying to decide between a new Walther PPS (.40 or 9mm) or a used Glock 27... Unfortunately, no Springfield Armory guns are allowed in Mass. and any Glocks sold must have been owned in Mass. prior to '98 (so they're at least 12 years old). Anyone have any input? |
| 7/14/10 7:53 PM | |
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Team Cup
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Member Since: 11/18/02 Posts: 14391 |
DaveM - I'm currently trying to decide between a new Walther PPS (.40 or 9mm) or a used Glock 27... Unfortunately, no Springfield Armory guns are allowed in Mass. and any Glocks sold must have been owned in Mass. prior to '98 (so they're at least 12 years old). I have a Glock 27.. It converted me into a Glock fan after being a hater for some time.. I only bought it because I got a GREAT deal on it, but I'm glad I did.. I don't know much about the PPS, but I did just purchase a P22.. I've heard good things about Walthers. |
| 7/14/10 8:17 PM | |
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Dojosensei
Member Since: 5/19/02 Posts: 16403 |
I have: HiPoint 9mm (2) Ruger LCP (3) Ruger LCR Taurus pt140 Mil Pro Glock 26, 27 and 39 Keltec PF9 (2) Ruger Mark II Walther P22 and a few others I'd say my favorites would be either the Glock 26, Glock 39 or the LCP. But it all depends on what you are looking for and why. The Hipoints you will hear a lot of bad shit about, most is true. Usually failure to feed comments. Polishing the feed actually got rid of all of that for me and it's accurate and reliable now and they are cheap. |
| 7/14/10 8:20 PM | |
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jacktripper
Member Since: 3/27/03 Posts: 22104 |
100kgkilla - Get a revolver in something other than .357 magnum. Indoors the .357 magnum has been known to disorient the user due to it's blinding flash and brutal sound. I would get one in .45acp, 44 special, or even 38special and train with it until you are proficient with it. Also, a good dog can serve as a great alarm and can tear someone's ass up. you can use .38sp in a .357 |
| 7/14/10 10:12 PM | |
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Gforce
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 7845 |
Used G17 at your price range. The laws in Mass are precisely the kind of shit that is going to get clobbered with the recent US Supreme Court ruling. Crazy restrictions on the type of guns you can have in your home are going to be toast. |
| 7/14/10 10:53 PM | |
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gregbrady
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Member Since: 1/9/02 Posts: 10580 |
jacktripper -100kgkilla - Get a revolver in something other than .357 magnum. Indoors the .357 magnum has been known to disorient the user due to it's blinding flash and brutal sound. I would get one in .45acp, 44 special, or even 38special and train with it until you are proficient with it. Also, a good dog can serve as a great alarm and can tear someone's ass up. if you're just going to use .38's in a .357 just buy a .38 though. There's no reason to carry around the more robust structure of a .357 if you're only shooting .38's out of it. |
| 7/14/10 10:58 PM | |
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balloon knotter
Member Since: 2/27/07 Posts: 16968 |
gregbrady -jacktripper -100kgkilla - Get a revolver in something other than .357 magnum. Indoors the .357 magnum has been known to disorient the user due to it's blinding flash and brutal sound. I would get one in .45acp, 44 special, or even 38special and train with it until you are proficient with it. Also, a good dog can serve as a great alarm and can tear someone's ass up. except that you can still take it out and shoot .357 for the fun of it, and keep it loaded with .38 for home if you want. |
| 7/14/10 10:59 PM | |
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balloon knotter
Member Since: 2/27/07 Posts: 16969 |
balloon knotter -gregbrady -jacktripper -100kgkilla - Get a revolver in something other than .357 magnum. Indoors the .357 magnum has been known to disorient the user due to it's blinding flash and brutal sound. I would get one in .45acp, 44 special, or even 38special and train with it until you are proficient with it. Also, a good dog can serve as a great alarm and can tear someone's ass up. editted to add that if JerseyCityMMA lives in Jersey City he isn't going to be carrying it so that's not a concern. |
| 7/14/10 11:00 PM | |
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gregbrady
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Member Since: 1/9/02 Posts: 10582 |
^well that's not only using .38's though. ;) |
| 7/14/10 11:31 PM | |
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drjim
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 4567 |
Unless the invader is so high he doesn't care but hearing the sound of pump shotgun will scare the shit out of most people. And if it doesn't hope you have a carpet cleaner. |
| 7/14/10 11:38 PM | |
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Lionheart XIX
Edited: 07/14/10 11:39 PM Member Since: 6/18/10 Posts: 941 |
Double |
| 7/14/10 11:41 PM | |
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Lionheart XIX
Member Since: 6/18/10 Posts: 942 |
100kgkilla - Get a revolver in something other than .357 magnum. Indoors the .357 magnum has been known to disorient the user due to it's blinding flash and brutal sound. I would get one in .45acp, 44 special, or even 38special and train with it until you are proficient with it. Also, a good dog can serve as a great alarm and can tear someone's ass up. Very true and the reason I told my dad to load 38 special + P's in his .357 because he would be blind and deaf after shooting that thing off in a room at night. |
| 7/15/10 10:16 AM | |
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MichaelVronsky
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Member Since: 12/15/02 Posts: 15327 |
i just got my FID card here in Jersey City. the process was not fun, fast or easy. |
| 7/15/10 8:31 PM | |
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DaveM
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 3702 |
I'm also curious about opinions on 9mm vs .40s&w... I've shot pretty much everything up through .45 and handled it pretty well but they were spread out over so many years that it isn't really possible for me to compare. I've been told that .40 actually has more kick than .45. |
| 7/15/10 8:40 PM | |
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gregbrady
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Member Since: 1/9/02 Posts: 10613 |
^if you want recoil move to revolvers like the rest of the men :) |
| 7/15/10 8:46 PM | |
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Dexter Morgan
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Member Since: 4/4/08 Posts: 1729 |
"^if you want recoil move to revolvers like the rest of the men :) " You sound like you're a fan of the S&W.500-Magnum. Me too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EoJowwbhu8 It only holds five rounds. But that's probably four more than you'll need. |
| 7/15/10 8:51 PM | |
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gregbrady
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Member Since: 1/9/02 Posts: 10617 |
^I fire it with my epenis |
| 7/16/10 10:48 AM | |
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TheCorrect
Member Since: 10/15/03 Posts: 2228 |
DaveM - I'm also curious about opinions on 9mm vs .40s&w... In my experience a .45 generally has more kick than a .40, but a lot depends on the type of gun & ammo. I prefer 9mm for a few reasons. Less kick = more control, more bullets per magazine, cheaper ammo, still powerful enough to do the job. |
| 12/6/10 12:26 AM | |
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jotobo
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Member Since: 2/16/08 Posts: 3314 |
Old thread, maybe the OP still reads it. I have been looking for similar reasons. I can only afford one gun right now and I chose the Ruger LCP, which is a .380 caliber pocket pistol. You could say its a step below a 9mm. Reason being I can bring it everywhere. I had been looking at a .32 Seecamp, which is a fine gun, but very very small. But if you are looking for something for home protection and have no intention of leaving home with it, then you have two options in my opinion. Shotgun and/or a decent handgun. For a first time pistol that is used only inside the home, I would get a 9mm. Its powerful enough but not so much where it will startle you each time you pull the trigger. Anticipating a massive BANG wont be condusive to a successful home defense. But really if you arent leaving home....get a youth model 20 guage. Smaller and lighter than a 12 guage and with the right ammo, it will mow anyone down. Go to a store and hold as many guns in your hand as you can. Select 10 of them that felt good in your hand. Shoot those ten guns. Pick 2 or 3 of them and start researching, maybe go back and shoot them again. Then buy one. |
| 12/27/10 11:27 PM | |
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Tahiti Bo
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Member Since: 8/26/05 Posts: 9888 |
ttt |
| 2/4/12 8:31 PM | |
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Vincent Fields
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 969 |
Just giving my 2 cents worth on this old but timeless thread. For home defense you can't beat a 45 semi auto high capacity pistol with a light attached. If you can afford it go with a Springfield Armory 45 XD or XDM with a 5+ inch barrel. Surprisingly little kick (because it's such a large pistol), 14 rounds of .45 ammo. Depending on your budget get a cheap light ($100 TLR1) or a pricier one that has a green laser with it. For budget conscious go with a High Point 45. They are only about $160. That is very cheap for a semi-auto 45 pistol. While they aren't near Glock quality, they will do just fine if not shot thousands of rounds. Having a 45 with light in one hand is a huge advantage that lets your other hand to be free in a home defense situation. It lets you do things like calling the cops or pushing the bad guy away with your free hand right before you shoot. |
| 2/7/12 5:09 PM | |
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john76
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 35218 |
since he's in NJ he probably hasn't gotten cleared for his FID card yet... let alone his pistol permits and that's not even to carry... just to buy/own |
| 2/7/12 7:43 PM | |
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MichaelVronsky
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Member Since: 12/15/02 Posts: 16903 |
LOL @ betting your life on a HighPoint. Im sorry but thats terrible advice. 
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