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UnderGround Forum >> Thiago Silva Statement
| 3/30/11 6:22 PM | |
Alpha Chael
Member Since: 2/9/10 Posts: 13 |
hopefully other fighters who have been caught can see the overwhelmingly supportive reaction to this type of statement and realize that it would be in their best interests to do something like this |
| 3/30/11 6:37 PM | |
JoeBruceHasTastySemen
Member Since: 5/22/10 Posts: 1867 |
Much respect for owning up and not lying about it like some other MMA fighters have. It was still wrong and there is no place for cheating in the sport, but I'm still a fan. War Thiago. |
| 3/30/11 6:46 PM | |
Morgz
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Member Since: 5/9/06 Posts: 9847 |
Billy Butcher -Morgz -Billy Butcher - It was a mistake on his part, one which he fully admitted too. Again, what more do you want?I would start with: A) not cheating to begin with. B) once you decided to cheat, realize it's wrong at that point, and stop it. C) Once you are questioned on your test, own up to it immediately rather than wait it out until everyone knows you are busted and you can't talk your way out of it -- then, and only then posting a great apology. Yes, but playing devil's advocate, TONS of other fighters are doing it the right way all the time. I get it though. Given the situation he is in NOW, he is absolutely handling it the right way, and props to him for that. I just wish he would have not done any of this to begin with. |
| 3/30/11 6:48 PM | |
46and2
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Member Since: 5/31/07 Posts: 2528 |
Ok, I have to first admit I didn't read all 10 pages of this thread so far (forgive me I am @ work) But, I must say that I do not buy for a second his excuse about why he used a urine adulterant (Which is SO stupid, why not just use someone elses urine, DUH?!?!) Also, I must say that I don't judge a pro athlete for PED use whatsoever, and think they should be allowed in pro sports. I am not sure whether corticosteroid injections are banned by the athletic commissions, but Im thinking you could easily get that OK'ed and still be allowed to fight. Im sure most of you know those types of steroids are NOT the same as anabolic/androgenic steroids (which are the "real" PEDs) I think he juiced and tried to cover his tracks w/ a urine adulterant or synthetic urine (both of which are really stupid IMO) Maybe he really used the roids to help heal his back, they will make a muscle injury heal faster (although not so much a disc problem or something like that really) But IMO this is not just about him being worried they wouldn't let him fight after having a epidural steroid injection or whatever........ Just my opinion, I don't personally think any less of the guy and people dumping him as fans and people saying he's a cheater, well, you're just dumb as fuck, don't understand sports and/or making your living FROM pro sports, and that's all there is to it :) |
| 3/30/11 7:06 PM | |
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unclewang
Member Since: 11/14/10 Posts: 415 |
I dont get why some of you ladies get so bent out of shape about this stuff. Most fighters have or are juicing, brah's. |
| 3/30/11 7:06 PM | |
Dragon X
Member Since: 10/7/10 Posts: 488 |
To all those hatin on Thiago, fuk it he should have still denied then. How would you like that? |
| 3/30/11 7:10 PM | |
afflikshoN
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Member Since: 11/25/10 Posts: 37 |
46and2 - Ok, I have to first admit I didn't read all 10 pages of this thread so far (forgive me I am @ work) You're in the vast minority of fans who advocate the blanket legalization of PED's. Your argument is rudimentary enough that you have to call those who (rightly) call T. Silva a cheater "dumb as fuck". |
| 3/30/11 7:13 PM | |
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DanJer
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Member Since: 11/18/09 Posts: 235 |
He owned up that he cheated like a man. Respect. |
| 3/30/11 7:23 PM | |
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Smith1234
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Member Since: 1/2/06 Posts: 2809 |
Son I am disappoint. But this good first step to redemption. |
| 3/30/11 7:25 PM | |
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ultimatestreetfighter
Member Since: 3/28/11 Posts: 3 |
not sure if i "respect" him since it was a scumbag thing to take PED. i do think he handled his situation the best way you can though which is by coming clean. |
| 3/30/11 7:26 PM | |
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Devlin
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Member Since: 10/16/07 Posts: 1209 |
in a sport where people constantly lie after testing positive its refreshing to hear someone admit too it, those saying they dont respect him? like he gives a fuck, he may have used whatever it was he did but the guys got a crippling and well documented back injury, and hes also from brazil, where ped aren't exactly frowned upon, and steroids are an over the counter drug. Funny though how many people are willing to accept his apologie compaired to those who accepted bispings, amusing how liking/disliking a fighter makes them easier to forgive. |
| 3/30/11 7:30 PM | |
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xxzygotexx
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Member Since: 1/19/10 Posts: 1341 |
RESPECT!!! |
| 3/30/11 7:35 PM | |
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46and2
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Member Since: 5/31/07 Posts: 2529 |
afflikshoN -46and2 - Ok, I have to first admit I didn't read all 10 pages of this thread so far (forgive me I am @ work) I agree with your first sentence, but I need to add that while Im in the minority of fans that advocate the use, Im also in the minority of fans that have any type of understanding of PED's outside what the DARE officer in school and jackasses in the news tell me. My argument was rudimentary? What was I arguing here? Because Im pretty sure if I was arguing anything in that post, it was that I think he juiced and lied about it. Which is an idea I figured most of you nancy boy, uneducated steroid witch hunters would jump on. It's not cheating when damned near everyone does/has done it. It also doesn't make you a better fighter, and most people who have tested positive have in fact lost their respective bout in which they used the PEDs! Have an original thought for once in your life and realize you've been fed nothing but misinformation about steroids your entire life, and your opinion that they are the devil and "cheating" stems only from your ignorance and trust in the media and government (which banned steroids against the will of the DEA, the FDA, and every doctor they had testify) Not trying to be a dick, and I shouldn't have called people "dumb fucks" but I really get frustrated at this witch hunt, which is EXACTLY what it is. Just a bunch of uninformed people who have this sense of evil towards steroids rooted so deep in their minds, it's just crazy. And 90% of the evil feelings are there because of misinformation and believing exactly what the government and media want you to..... So now we get these guys that are trying to make a living in a sport where one loss can get you cut, so they try something to simply help them heal after their intense workouts.... Then they drop dirty on a test (while every other fighter sighs in relief because they managed to cycle his roids right and pass the test) and that fighter is labeled as a cheater, many people HATE, and I mean FUCKING HATE a fighter that tests positive (even though 90%+ of their favorites have or do use them) and they get a year suspension, lose tons of money, current and future sponsors, etc etc. So, there's part of my argument.... Sorry if it's rudimentary :) |
| 3/30/11 7:56 PM | |
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BLACKBUDDAH
Member Since: 10/15/09 Posts: 410 |
What does "rudimentary" mean? 
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| 3/30/11 8:57 PM | |
Stu Cazzo
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Member Since: 6/27/05 Posts: 6708 |
Great statement.... We need more accountability in sports like this - |
| 3/30/11 8:58 PM | |
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myblood04
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Member Since: 10/22/10 Posts: 132 |
Shit happens. We learn.. Wish you best of luck and can't wait to see him fight again!
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| 3/30/11 9:31 PM | |
chroniccomics5
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Member Since: 2/24/11 Posts: 245 |
no bs from Thiago |
| 3/30/11 9:46 PM | |
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Monojoe
Member Since: 2/3/11 Posts: 58 |
A very clever tactic on Silva's part owning up to it. Not only does he get praise and respect from his fans but seems to be gaining new fans because of his confession. This seems to be the best thing that could of happened to him. Drugs certainly hasn't ruined his life. IMO
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| 3/30/11 9:48 PM | |
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Stubjj844
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Member Since: 12/7/10 Posts: 134 |
Big mistake from Thiago as much as we may like it. In these cases it always pays to deny. They will hit him with the full penalty now with no chance of appeal. |
| 3/30/11 10:06 PM | |
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Haywood Jablowme
Member Since: 10/11/07 Posts: 5970 |
If you believe he actually wrote that statement, you are kidding yourself!
He is not an honest guy, nor does he deserve repsect. If we was honest and wanted to be accountable and forthright, he would have admitted it after the fight. Not weeks later when the ATT PR Dept has had the time to put their spin on it.
He doesn't deserve respect until he can serve his suspension and then run off some clean fights.
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| 3/30/11 10:22 PM | |
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bustowithnobra
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Member Since: 12/19/09 Posts: 1897 |
damn. respekt |
| 3/30/11 10:29 PM | |
masterofmartialarts
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Member Since: 10/9/10 Posts: 567 |
Respect. Wanted to fight, that's all. |
| 3/30/11 10:36 PM | |
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McUFC
Member Since: 3/12/11 Posts: 97 |
I dont care if he kills babies and drinks their blood, he is ONE of the few fighters I will pay to watch in the McUFC these days. |
| 3/30/11 10:53 PM | |
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Evilzpet
Member Since: 1/9/10 Posts: 391 |
46and2 -afflikshoN -46and2 - Ok, I have to first admit I didn't read all 10 pages of this thread so far (forgive me I am @ work) You were told that your argument is rudimentary because it is composed of logical fallacies. Steroids are illegal and banned in sports, and this is why it is considered cheating. Your opinion on the actual ethics of steroid use does not change this. Your strawman assumption that "everybody does it" is false, bandwagon logic. There are many athletes who do not cheat. Yes, using steroids is cheating. It is against the rules of MMA and federal law. People that feel this way understand that rules are rules; just because someone does not agree with your opinion does not make them "dumb as fuck". Your idea that because "everybody" uses steroids (which, as said before, is totally untrue) does not make them exempt from being labeled cheaters. If "everybody" from a said organization robbed a bank, it would not be ok. Even if you thought that robbing banks was acceptable practice, as you feel about steriod use, it would still be stealing and against the rules/law. If you are so knowledgable on the use and effects of steriods, then feel free to qualify that statement with reasons rather than attributing those who have different opinions as "dumb as fuck." There is a difference between uninformed and dumb. Yes, you are correct that athletes sometimes use steroids to heal injuries rather than enhance performance, but if you compare Thiago's physique now to what it was back when he was fighting, say, James Irvin, one could reasonably wonder if Thiago had used steroids for physical enhancement. Even if you cannot sympathize with the argument that steroid use in sports is wrong, surely you acknowledge that trying to cover up test results is cheating? Cheers. |
| 3/30/11 11:18 PM | |
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zFugitive
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Member Since: 12/17/10 Posts: 185 |
so is their a part in the dolce diet about juicin? |
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