UnderGround Forum >> Bisping has a msg for TRT users
| 8/4/11 12:28 PM | |
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OveREEMed A New Butthole
Member Since: 11/20/08 Posts: 9249 |
Bisping is right. Just because we like somebody does not make it OK, and just because we dislike somebody does not make that person wrong. |
| 8/4/11 12:33 PM | |
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citysambo
Member Since: 6/10/11 Posts: 106 |
Chimonos Revenge -Idsmashit -Chimonos Revenge -BJ Penn and fair minded people who want a level playing field. Wrestlers already have the advantage so how can you stop a drugged up wrestler? Its going to be difficuilt.Mako_ - As much as I loathe Bisping, he's speaking the truth. It's fucking cheating. Why do you have to make this about the UK? Fuck off with that shit bro. Talk about Bisping the fighter, not your generalisation of a country based on a few fighters you've seen in the UFC. I hate people that start talking shit about a country based on a comment that someone has made that doesn't relate to nationalities. That, and you've probably never left your state. |
| 8/4/11 12:36 PM | |
Chimonos Revenge
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Member Since: 7/26/07 Posts: 9003 |
Who is this guy? UKTT's new recruit? ^^ |
| 8/4/11 12:52 PM | |
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SexiestManAlive
Member Since: 7/22/09 Posts: 330 |
Like him or not, he makes a valid point. Why would someone have low testosterone levels? People who know the effects of steroids know what I'm talking about. Hendo isn't a cheater because his levels are in normal range. Sonnen and Marquart on the other hand got in trouble for a reason
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| 8/4/11 12:53 PM | |
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j0n
Member Since: 11/25/09 Posts: 63 |
citysambo -Chimonos Revenge -Idsmashit -Chimonos Revenge -BJ Penn and fair minded people who want a level playing field. Wrestlers already have the advantage so how can you stop a drugged up wrestler? Its going to be difficuilt.Mako_ - As much as I loathe Bisping, he's speaking the truth. It's fucking cheating. Lol |
| 8/4/11 12:54 PM | |
Rucking Fetard
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Member Since: 10/5/10 Posts: 866 |
If they need it they need it. I think people who throw illegal knees to a grounded opponent then spit on his corner are cheats, but thats just me.
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| 8/4/11 12:56 PM | |
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j0n
Member Since: 11/25/09 Posts: 64 |
SexiestManAlive - Like him or not, he makes a valid point. Why would someone have low testosterone levels? People who know the effects of steroids know what I'm talking about. Prolonged weight cutting especially when one starts at an early age can result in low test levels. A lot of guys who wreslted through college have low test issues.. constantly cutting weight like that wrecks your test production. |
| 8/4/11 1:01 PM | |
BruceLeeMMAfighting
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TRT-Bomb |
| 8/4/11 1:03 PM | |
Bisping'sBottomBitch
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Member Since: 11/25/10 Posts: 609 |
OveREEMed A New Butthole - Bisping is right. |
| 8/4/11 1:10 PM | |
InspiritMick
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Member Since: 1/6/10 Posts: 563 |
Bisping is as per usual correct. But haters (and massive douche-bags) gonna hate |
| 8/4/11 1:12 PM | |
Morgz
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Member Since: 5/9/06 Posts: 10479 |
no it's just a lot more fun becuase spitsbing turned out to be such a dink |
| 8/4/11 1:19 PM | |
NoGi bear
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Member Since: 6/29/10 Posts: 4779 |
Chimonos Revenge -I can do thatNoGi bear - Hey my thread made UG news again :-) I'm defo in double figures of broken news on the front page now, I should be s mod or president of America or something :-) BUT I WON'T !!!!!
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| 8/4/11 1:37 PM | |
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KwikTempah
Member Since: 10/1/05 Posts: 22082 |
lol @ people saying "low test isn't only a result of steroids in the past !!" these are elite level sportsman competing in combat sports , extensive amateur backgrounds in boxing and wrestling etc , they are not decrepit guys with naturally testosterone deficiencies , if they were , they wouldn't be fighting in the first place . you get test and steroids from external sources and your body stops producing it naturally, simple as that . why would super fit high level athletes that train everyday suddenly need test therapy ?? get a grip . The Count is bang on the money .
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| 8/4/11 1:39 PM | |
suess
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j0n -SexiestManAlive - Like him or not, he makes a valid point. Why would someone have low testosterone levels? People who know the effects of steroids know what I'm talking about. |
| 8/4/11 1:44 PM | |
Chimonos Revenge
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Member Since: 7/26/07 Posts: 9011 |
Just like every other thread on TRT, this one is full of uneducated comments. |
| 8/4/11 1:47 PM | |
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KwikTempah
Member Since: 10/1/05 Posts: 22083 |
suess -just so happens the same guys have also been on the juice since day dot LOLj0n -SexiestManAlive - Like him or not, he makes a valid point. Why would someone have low testosterone levels? People who know the effects of steroids know what I'm talking about. there is your excuse anyway , all these guys have low test from weightcutting , Bisping is wrong .
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| 8/4/11 1:47 PM | |
Bisping'sBottomBitch
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Edited: 08/04/11 1:48 PM Member Since: 11/25/10 Posts: 612 |
suess -Prolonged weight cutting especially when one starts at an early age can result in low test levels. A lot of guys who wreslted through college have low test issues.. constantly cutting weight like that wrecks your test production. Copying a comment from a poster on BE, making it bold and changing a few words doesn't make you correct. |
| 8/4/11 1:50 PM | |
Eveready
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The way that TRT can be exploited is seriously cheating the system, they can keep extremely elevated test levels throughout their camp, which is when it most beneficial then bring it down to borderline high levels just before the fight and they get cleared. The only solution other than a straight up ban is much tougher regulation, it should only be administered by doctors authorized only by the state athletic commission and they should have regular weekly checks for their test levels leading up to a fight. Another problem is what do they consider the limit for testosterone levels? I assume it is the level that it would be for any athlete, whether they are on TRT or not and this is another problem. If any other athlete tested near the top of that range then that is likely unnatural, elevated levels, as the limit is probably used to know if people are on PED's but they have to have a bit of give for freaks of nature and not to accuse clean athletes. If someone is on TRT on the other hand they are probably cleared because it's legal and that's it. If an athlete is on TRT they should have a lower limit for testosterone levels which should be the average of say an active 30 year old, then they wouldn't be top of the limit, high as legal can be on testosterone levels, they would be averaging as the same as anyone else. Under the current system, it isn't just people with low test levels who could benefit from TRT, everyone could, and makes it performance enhancing and a problem. |
| 8/4/11 1:56 PM | |
suess
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Bisping'sBottomBitch -suess -Prolonged weight cutting especially when one starts at an early age can result in low test levels. A lot of guys who wreslted through college have low test issues.. constantly cutting weight like that wrecks your test production. i didn't change anything. i'm merely bolding it so you can see it and dispute it or shut up. |
| 8/4/11 2:01 PM | |
JimmersonzGlove
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Morgz - <img alt="" src="http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad113/LankyBrutality/henderson-bisping-gif.gif" /> Disappointed that it took til the 2nd page for this to be posted. |
| 8/4/11 2:03 PM | |
BradGluckman
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| 8/4/11 2:12 PM | |
BradGluckman
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| 8/4/11 2:12 PM | |
Morgz
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JimmersonzGlove -Morgz - I was shocked by this myself. |
| 8/4/11 2:44 PM | |
chaplinshouse
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Member Since: 4/5/09 Posts: 725 |
Suddenly he's Captain Fair? I'd rather have my opponent using TRT than take a free power shot knee to my BRAIN, then spit at my team behind the safety of a fence. If he's on the good side of an unfair advantage, he'll defend his position. If he's at a disadvantage, he's outraged. His opinion would be valid for some fighters, in certain situations, but for him to make a blanket statement like that is pretty lame. If you're gonna whine about cheating, you'd better have a clean mother fucking house |
| 8/4/11 2:45 PM | |
Teenage mutant lesnar turtle
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Edited: 08/04/11 2:45 PM Member Since: 11/20/10 Posts: 5367 |
communication fail edit: not directed at you chaplinshouse |
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