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SoldierGround Forum >> Meeting with a NG recruiter tomorrow. Any Advice?
| 4/18/12 9:45 AM | |
ValeTudo020
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Member Since: 7/30/02 Posts: 2899 |
Tomorrow after work, I will be meeting with a National Guard recruiter. I am 25 years old, physically fit, and will be graduating Law School on May 7. Obviously, I'll be pushing for OCS. My biggest concern is my bar prep. I will be taking the bar exam on July 27 & 28 and my schedule may be tight leading up to the exam; however, I'd like to leave for basic in the first or second week of August. Do you think they'll work around that? And is there anything I can negotiate from my end (like airborne)? Or am I basically limited because I'll be doing OCS? And I can't do JAG because I don't have prior service nor passed the bar (yet). |
| 4/22/12 11:27 AM | |
BshMstr
Member Since: 10/13/09 Posts: 944 |
yeah, they can get you a later ship date... usuually later in the summer/early fall is easy, becasue so many people ship out in May. when you're getting a contract, you can generally only get certain things....like Airborne, RIP (Ranger assinged), duty station....to get those things through the Gaurd is hard, because that's all state money. where do you intend to do OCS? straight through, or on drilling status?? |
| 4/22/12 11:32 AM | |
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BshMstr
Member Since: 10/13/09 Posts: 945 |
annddd, i just realized that you already met with the recruiter. sorry 'bout the late advice. how'd it go?? |
| 4/23/12 9:11 AM | |
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ValeTudo020
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Member Since: 7/30/02 Posts: 2904 |
Thanks! It actually went pretty good. I got about 80% of my paper work done. Apparently, I can't really ask for much in my contract because I'll be OCS (which sucks because I wanted to do airborne before that). They also were very open to working around my schedule. I'd imagine it's a selling point because I haven't joined yet. The recruiter basically said that if I have to miss every drill from here until basic, it's fine. They understand that I'll be taking the bar and that's priority #1. I meet with the Lieutenant in charge of OCS on Wednesday. That's probably where I'll get most of the answers I need. In Maryland, apparently 98% of Candidates go through the traditional 18-month OCS on drills. I'd rather do the 2-month accelerated. It might be impossible (considering I have no real valid reason to accelerated) but I'll push that topic on Wednesday. |
| 5/3/12 7:34 PM | |
TheeSenator
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Member Since: 7/11/06 Posts: 6764 |
Do the accelerated, you'll be glad. Also, with a law degree, is there a particular field you want (other than Jag?) And unless it's completely out of the question, go active. 
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| 5/3/12 9:17 PM | |
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ValeTudo020
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Member Since: 7/30/02 Posts: 2910 |
TheeSenator - Do the accelerated, you'll be glad. Also, with a law degree, is there a particular field you want (other than Jag?) When I talked about accelerated, I kind of got a "you can try" with a shrug. I guess that's a bridge I'll have to cross next summer. As to the law degree, the Maryland won't take you as a JAG unless you have at least both 4 years of prior service and 4 years of legal experience. I figured if I don't like my Officer placement then I can fall back on JAG on my next contract. I'll have the minimum requirements and hopefully rank. And I won't go active. I still want to practice law and I have no desire to leave Maryland. I'm essentially padding my resume on both sides (advancing in a legal and military career simultaneously). Who wouldn't want to vote for a young politician who is tough on crime and terrorism? |
| 5/5/12 6:53 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2187 |
That's a pretty pathetic reason to serve. But whatever.
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| 5/5/12 9:06 PM | |
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ValeTudo020
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Member Since: 7/30/02 Posts: 2915 |
virux11b - That's a pretty pathetic reason to serve. But whatever. That's not the reason why I'm serving. That's the reason why I choose the National Guard over Active Duty. The National Guard lets me do both the legal and military career at the same time. |
| 5/6/12 7:34 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5630 |
No such thing as a pathetic reason to serve, serving is serving. |
| 5/7/12 3:57 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2192 |
The Cannibal - No such thing as a pathetic reason to serve, serving is serving.You couldn't be more wrong. 99% of the people that join for the wrong reasons don't make it through basic.
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| 5/10/12 2:10 PM | |
flyingtx21
Member Since: 3/30/12 Posts: 6 |
Make sure you go over your bonus contracts thoroughly as well. |
| 5/10/12 5:05 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2212 |
flyingtx21 - Make sure you go over your bonus contracts thoroughly as well.Why? You usually don't get a very high bonus now days. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but officers don't get a sign on bonus.
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| 5/10/12 8:32 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5631 |
First: your comment did not disprove my statement even slightly. Second: you can't seriously believe that. I know a shit ton of people who joined for what you would probably consider "the wrong reasons" and are active, my battery at basic had like two people not make it through. Besides that do the "1%" not sacrifice just as much? |
| 5/10/12 8:58 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2213 |
It has nothing to do with what I believe. It's statistics within the army. And when did I say they didn't sacrifice? I think you are getting your panties in a wad over a fact and now throwing random crap at me. Damn near every person I know of that joined for just a bonus or cash either failed out of basic or were turd soldiers. You can get mad all you want.
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| 5/10/12 10:41 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5632 |
I would love to see these statistics. I said there is no such thing as serving for a pathetic reason, serving is serving, to which you replied that I couldn't be more wrong. Is it too much use of reading comprehension for you to be unable to correlate the fact that you disagreeing with that means that you believe some people's service is to be held in lower regard based solely on their reason for serving? The 99% horseshit you threw out was the only panty wadding, random crap brought up. Maybe you should stick to shooting things and being homo erotic. |
| 5/11/12 8:41 AM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2214 |
The Cannibal - I would love to see these statistics. I said there is no such thing as serving for a pathetic reason, serving is serving, to which you replied that I couldn't be more wrong. Is it too much use of reading comprehension for you to be unable to correlate the fact that you disagreeing with that means that you believe some people's service is to be held in lower regard based solely on their reason for serving? The 99% horseshit you threw out was the only panty wadding, random crap brought up. Maybe you should stick to shooting things and being homo erotic.There you go with your panty wadding. When you quit crying and calling names come back and we can have a big boy conversation.
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| 5/11/12 11:58 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5633 |
So can I safely assume you either cannot comprehend what I said or that you have no answer so you refuse to engage? |
| 5/12/12 12:16 AM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2221 |
You made up a random assumption. Never did I say someone serving for any reason is any less. I made my comment out of experience. Not from me going to one basic training session.
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| 5/12/12 12:30 AM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5634 |
So you can't comprehend what is being said, got it. -You said it was a pathetic reason to serve -I said there is no such thing as a pathetic reason to serve. -You made a wild leap to the claim that 99% of people who join for the wrong reason don't make it past basic. -I said that even were that true, does that mean the 1% that do make it are pathetic? -You made up statistics and said the 1% who did make it were turd soldiers, implying that they don't deserve the respect that other soldiers do. - You once again avoided the points I brought up and attempted to emasculate me because you have no valid arguement I hope that helps |
| 5/12/12 6:39 AM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2222 |
The Cannibal - So you can't comprehend what is being said, got it.I guess when you get all mad you don't pay attention to what's being written. I'm taking a wild leap and saying you were air force. Only they could cry and get upset as much as you do.
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| 5/12/12 2:37 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5635 |
Tell me what you said then. I was not AF, I am a 68w. You know, the guys who save you. |
| 5/12/12 2:43 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2226 |
The Cannibal - Tell me what you said then. I was not AF, I am a 68w. You know, the guys who save you.You seriously think that joining solely for a bonus is a good reason to serve? Every person that the recruiting station put in for that reason alone didn't make it. Ok, maybe one. But he ended up getting kicked out.
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| 5/12/12 2:44 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2227 |
The Cannibal - Tell me what you said then. I was not AF, I am a 68w. You know, the guys who save you.Haha! We made our medic sit in the truck for that reason alone.
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| 5/12/12 3:23 PM | |
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The Cannibal
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5636 |
I don't care why anyone joined, by the act of joining they are all making the same sacrifice, which is everything up to and including their life. That being said, if they didn't make it through basic, they didn't serve and their inclusion here is irrelevant. |
| 5/12/12 3:54 PM | |
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virux11b
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Member Since: 7/7/10 Posts: 2228 |
Wow. I feel like I'm arguing with my wife. Change change change.
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