UnderGround Forum >> UFC remeasures Struve, ties Jon Jones for reach
| 5/25/12 2:07 PM | |
epwar
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Just saw this on Ariel's twitter page: https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/205474147831263232 So get this: the UFC remeasured |
| 5/25/12 2:15 PM | |
Acidic
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I wish Struve could use his jabs more effeciantly though. His reach is useless most of the time and when he jabs he doesnt even jab the face but the opponents gloves |
| 5/25/12 2:18 PM | |
Festus
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Wouldn't they remeasure them every fight as the reach could possibly change? Say they put on more muscle and got broader in the shoulders...couldn't that give them an extra half inch or more? Or vice versa and reach lessen.
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| 5/25/12 2:24 PM | |
epwar
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Damn, forgot to add: solid, thick, tight! |
| 5/25/12 2:29 PM | |
sacredhate
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so Jones has a more effective reach since Struve has to use more of his reach to direct punches downwards while Jones' reach is cutting a more direct route to his opponents. |
| 5/25/12 2:30 PM | |
sacredhate
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Festus - Wouldn't they remeasure them every fight as the reach could possibly change? Say they put on more muscle and got broader in the shoulders...couldn't that give them an extra half inch or more? Or vice versa and reach lessen. i don't think adding muscle on top of your shoulders makes the distance between your should joints any larger. Reach is based on your skeleton and not what is layered on top of it. |
| 5/25/12 2:37 PM | |
MattyECB
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I gave up on Struve. Not as a fan, just that I don't think he'll ever grow enough to be a real threat. I kept telling myself he's young, he'll eventually learn to use his reach and become a Semmy Schlitt style K1 motherfucker in the stand up with good BJJ to accent it... but he has the fight IQ of a golf club. |
| 5/25/12 2:37 PM | |
MattyECB
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Came out way too harsh lol, still love him, just don't think he'll even really master outside fighting |
| 5/25/12 2:44 PM | |
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Filo_Beto
Member Since: 11/24/10 Posts: 323 |
Now if he only knew how to use his range he would be a dangerous MOFO but unfortunately he can't. Maybe he needs to train at jacksons I'm sure they can do wonders for his game. |
| 5/25/12 2:45 PM | |
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Filo_Beto
Member Since: 11/24/10 Posts: 324 |
MattyECB - I gave up on Struve. Not as a fan, just that I don't think he'll ever grow enough to be a real threat. I kept telling myself he's young, he'll eventually learn to use his reach and become a Semmy Schlitt style K1 motherfucker in the stand up with good BJJ to accent it... but he has the fight IQ of a golf club. I can agree with this!! |
| 5/25/12 2:47 PM | |
UGCTT_EnderTL
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I agree with everyone saying he needs to learn to use his reach more effectively. He would be a dominant force. |
| 5/25/12 2:47 PM | |
Card
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Please Struve don't get trapped against the cage. |
| 5/25/12 2:51 PM | |
8flat
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Since reach is measured fingertip to fingertip, how did it change when they remeasured him? Maybe he stretched more this time..haha |
| 5/25/12 2:55 PM | |
Festus
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sacredhate -Makes sense. I just assumed a broader back made for a longer reach.Festus - Wouldn't they remeasure them every fight as the reach could possibly change? Say they put on more muscle and got broader in the shoulders...couldn't that give them an extra half inch or more? Or vice versa and reach lessen.
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| 5/25/12 3:02 PM | |
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C Riv
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" Everything else is virtually un-idenctical" |
| 5/25/12 3:03 PM | |
Tyson86
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Festus -sacredhate -Makes sense. I just assumed a broader back made for a longer reach.Festus - Wouldn't they remeasure them every fight as the reach could possibly change? Say they put on more muscle and got broader in the shoulders...couldn't that give them an extra half inch or more? Or vice versa and reach lessen. Yea someone with a naturally wider skeleton at the shoulders would add to a longer reach, but adding muscle doesn't change your skeleton. |
| 5/25/12 3:07 PM | |
RandyDarsh
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First jones totals his vehicle while driving drunk, now this? WHATS NEXT??? |
| 5/25/12 3:09 PM | |
breakbeatbox
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If Struve ever learned to use his reach like Schilt he'd be a dangerous motherfucker. He's never used his reach to his full advantage. Such a waste. |
| 5/25/12 3:20 PM | |
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catgobling
Member Since: 10/25/11 Posts: 143 |
ufc manipulating data so that they have some shit to say during the prefight, making jones look even more like something to behold. theres no way i believe these 2 have the exact same length reach |
| 5/25/12 3:23 PM | |
RandyDarsh
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catgobling - ufc manipulating data so that they have some shit to say during the prefight, making jones look even more like something to behold. theres no way i believe these 2 have the exact same length reach i dunno struve has short arms for a tall guy and jones has long arms for a Lhw THINK BOUT IT BOUT IT |
| 5/25/12 3:42 PM | |
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evilmonkey666
Member Since: 2/14/07 Posts: 19 |
8flat - Since reach is measured fingertip to fingertip, how did it change when they remeasured him? HGH? |
| 5/25/12 3:44 PM | |
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ironyuppie
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 5810 |
the rule of thumb is that your reach is equal to your height. So Struve's is +1 inch of his height and Jones is +8.5. Lesnar was 75 inches tall and had a 81 inch reach. gsp is 70 inches tall and has a 76 inch reach |
| 5/25/12 3:46 PM | |
RandyDarsh
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evilmonkey666 -8flat - Since reach is measured fingertip to fingertip, how did it change when they remeasured him? im pretty sure struve wasnt done growing, he was young as fuck when he first fought in the UFC |
| 5/25/12 3:57 PM | |
Willin
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sacredhate -No- he packed on muscle on his fingertips which extended his reach... IDIOT!Festus - Wouldn't they remeasure them every fight as the reach could possibly change? Say they put on more muscle and got broader in the shoulders...couldn't that give them an extra half inch or more? Or vice versa and reach lessen. |
| 5/25/12 3:57 PM | |
303
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Struve should go train with the Diaz brothers so he can learn use his jab. If the guy could ever learn how to box his length would give a lot of people problems. |
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