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9/28/12 2:05 AM

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gillyoteen

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Kizer: It was here, twice for the same drug, marijuana. But Nick did some things that came out in the hearing. Before the hearing, he came out and said 'yeah, well I smoked seven days before.' Wait a minute, are you saying that you lied on our pre-fight questionnaire? We asked him if he took anything in the last fifteen days. He basically admitted that he did, so we added perjury and that was part of the findings against him. So it wasn't only for testing positive for the marijuana, it was also lying about it on the form.

The second thing with Nick is that after the fight he drank about two dozen bottles of water, which we later found out from both from his expert, as well as our own, the effect of that was the intent to lower the level of marijuana in his system to try to get it below the cutoff. It didn't quite work. He was still above the cutoff but the level was very little

http://www.boxingscene.com/nsacs-kizer-on-possible-penalties-chavez-jr--57557

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32Hunter 2 Member Since: 6/16/07 Posts: 12582	lies! You have ignored this user.

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D241 Member Since: 11/20/09 Posts: 11335	But lets speak about the elephant in the room. Worst case scenario is that it's found out Nick Diaz actually smoked just before the fight and was high off weed, that totally gives him one of the most biggest advantages one could have in one on one sports more than any other type of advantage I could think of. I mean, that ganja is Ridiculous. You have ignored this user.

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Joe_Drogan420 Member Since: 12/31/11 Posts: 296	Keith Kizer seriously needs to take a fucking bong hit and lighten the fuck up. You have ignored this user.

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GayGuardMooseSaucy 279 Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 7700	I wonder how much water you need to drink before water intoxication happens You have ignored this user.

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OnlyTheStrongSurvive 255 Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 6271	Poor decisions. I wonder if he has learned. You have ignored this user.

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KZTT_W85 11 Member Since: 12/10/11 Posts: 1350	If he drank that much water, I would be amazed. That is beyond ridiculous!! I'm no Diaz fan, my post history tells that story - but I'm extremely skeptical whether it's even possible to drink two dozen bottles of water without becoming very ill. You have ignored this user.

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madmav 42 Member Since: 3/23/09 Posts: 9673	nice of kizer to come out and state that the nsac arbitrarily makes decisions.. rather than following the letter of law of their own rules and policies. =O You have ignored this user.

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JustMidge 26 Member Since: 7/28/10 Posts: 605	Joe_Drogan420 - Keith Kizer seriously needs to take a fucking bong hit and lighten the fuck up. this You have ignored this user.

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NegoVeio 20 Member Since: 5/12/11 Posts: 255	as i said in the other thread about this: fing liar. If Nick had drunk two dozen bottles of water he would be fing dead. It's called Water Intoxication, dumb**s! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication You have ignored this user.

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Alpha World Peace Member Since: 8/13/12 Posts: 962	Who the fuck cares? What are you, Kizer, a high school principal? GTFO! You have ignored this user.

9/28/12 3:37 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Alpha World Peace Member Since: 8/13/12 Posts: 963	And yes, the human body literally can't consume 3 gallons of water without severe water intoxication. You have ignored this user.

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inf0 268 Member Since: 7/29/02 Posts: 65497	clean up the TRT scene homie You have ignored this user.

9/28/12 3:56 AM

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madmav 42 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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superCalo - Don't know why after a second offense he isn't given a life ban, is this a professional support or not ? If this was a Olympic sport like some folk want it to be he would never fight s professional fight again, he's very lucky the athletic commissions are so weak and pander to promoters

haha.. you are spot on about the ac's pandering to the promoters.. especially boxing promoters.

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CrimeBoss Member Since: 7/18/12 Posts: 429	NegoVeio - as i said in the other thread about this: fing liar. If Nick had drunk two dozen bottles of water he would be fing dead. It's called Water Intoxication, dumb**s! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication This,kizer is a lying piece of shit. You have ignored this user.

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irishrottie Member Since: 3/8/09 Posts: 16803	I cannot stand Keith Kiezer. What an arrogant asshole. You have ignored this user.

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Stainypoo Member Since: 5/8/10 Posts: 1321	He would have died from Water poisoning If he drank 24 bottles. You have ignored this user.

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Stainypoo Member Since: 5/8/10 Posts: 1322	Lol i meant water intoxication. You have ignored this user.

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Fabes 89 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 43716 Mixed Martial Arts LLC, Moderator	Zero chance he had 24 bottles of water. C'mon meow! You have ignored this user.

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Stephen Eakin 54 Member Since: 12/20/09 Posts: 1250	His logic is off. I fought a 3 round fight and had to pee for the state after... I drank probably 10-15 bottles before I could force out a little drop for them. After a 5 round fight I would think Diaz war dehydrated and couldn't pee until after he had sufficient water. You have ignored this user.

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pidgey 1 Member Since: 2/27/11 Posts: 1444	im on Nick Diaz side, BUUUUUUUUUUUTT... how fucking hard is to stay without smoking weed for 15 days? I mean... im asking experts on the field, because i dont smoke weed, but i figure it shouldn't be such an issue to stay clear from it for 15 days only. You have ignored this user.

9/28/12 8:07 AM

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gillyoteen

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pidgey - im on Nick Diaz side, BUUUUUUUUUUUTT... how fucking hard is to stay without smoking weed for 15 days?

I mean... im asking experts on the field, because i dont smoke weed, but i figure it shouldn't be such an issue to stay clear from it for 15 days only.

it's out of your system in 15 days only if you smoke it once

if you smoke on regular basis it's gonna be at least a month before you can pass a drug test

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CHILLITACO 64 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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pidgey - im on Nick Diaz side, BUUUUUUUUUUUTT... how fucking hard is to stay without smoking weed for 15 days?

I mean... im asking experts on the field, because i dont smoke weed, but i figure it shouldn't be such an issue to stay clear from it for 15 days only.

I honestly think I should stay out of fighting. You look at it this way.

Its a "proven" fact that it dampens the nervous system. So in theory if a fighter like Diaz is able to still think and react quick enough, they would have an advantage.

Think of a strike to that person being "dampened" by 10-20%?

It could mean the difference from taking a shot to being knocked out. All pain and sensory is nerve. Phone Post

9/28/12 8:28 AM

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SC MMA MD 115 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Alpha World Peace - And yes, the human body literally can't consume 3 gallons of water without severe water intoxication.

This. I doubt what he is claming Diaz did is physically possible. There are case reports of seemingly healthy people dying from cerebral edema after drinking less water. I recall a story about a female radio show contestant trying to win something by drinking the most water without using the restroom who died; can not find the articles right now though Phone Post

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